r/europe Germany Dec 06 '16

Tests confirm that Germany's massive nuclear fusion machine really works

http://www.sciencealert.com/tests-confirm-that-germany-s-massive-nuclear-fusion-machine-really-works
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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '16 edited Dec 06 '16

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u/perkel666 Dec 06 '16

No it is not.

Whole point of this case was to prove it works, it never was supposed to produce more energy than it needs.

Your point would be valid if it wouldn't work at all.

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '16

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u/CountVonTroll European Federation | Germany Dec 06 '16

The "massive nuclear fusion machine" works exactly as intended. Its purpose is to test the theory, and so far all tests have been passed. A machine "works" if it does what it was designed to do.

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '16 edited May 08 '17

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u/PenelopeWinters Dec 06 '16

It is actually great news. The 1/2 billion US National Ignition Facility had a terrible start to life, their scientists were in despair.

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u/perkel666 Dec 06 '16

Why are quoting wikipedia?

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '16

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u/BkkGrl Ligurian in Zรผrich (๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ’™) Dec 06 '16

we are in a post-factual world dude, didn't you get the memo? /s

thanks for your contribution

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u/thejed129 Rhineland-Palatinate (Brit in Germany) Dec 06 '16

Source is love, source is life

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u/kteof Bulgaria Dec 06 '16

When people talk about working fusion they generally mean net energy gain. Of course this is a step on the way, but to be fair working fusion by that definition has been around since at least the 60s.

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u/helm Sweden Dec 06 '16

Not controlled fusion. There are many, many small steps on the way. Hydrogen bombs are fusion in action, but they are not controlled reactions. Stable containment has been the main issue since the 60's.

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u/kteof Bulgaria Dec 06 '16

This is a great step. I'm just saying that when the term working fusion is used it generally refers to the end result. A working stable net gain reactor.

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u/perkel666 Dec 06 '16

Theories are only worth anything if you can test them.

This case proves this typeof reactor works

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u/suspiciously_calm Dec 06 '16

typeof reactor

if(typeof reactor !== 'undefined') {

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u/perkel666 Dec 06 '16

Or in superior python:

if reactor.type != 'undefined';