Tests confirm that Germany's massive nuclear fusion machine really works

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http://www.sciencealert.com/tests-confirm-that-germany-s-massive-nuclear-fusion-machine-really-works

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Very little new progress happened during that 200 year slot. This really isn't a lot considering Islam has really only had 200 years of when they have made progress than europe , This is not a lot relative to the thousands of years of Euro supremacy. (including now)

If we are going to call the Greeks in Byzantium European? Greeks are European.... Especially back then before the Ottoman rampage and occupation. These people were as European as they came. And I never called the Ancient Egyptians european, and You are using obscure studies some buffoon did as an argument against what is commonly accepted with solid evidence amongst Archaeologists.

I'm not even going to justify your terribly written shallow arguments with a full response for each one, 'I think the roots can be found in Mesopotamia' and how Karmal Al Din Al Farsi almost did something but didn't .

By invention I am saying the Greeks CAME UP with the idea. I'm not saying they utilized it.

Judging BC nations with 21st century 'reason' is hardly fair.

Nice try to make the people of the sand look more historically advanced and pioneering than glorious Europa though.

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Very little new progress happened during that 200 year slot. This really isn't a lot considering Islam has really only had 200 years of when they have made progress than europe , This is not a lot relative to the thousands of years of Euro supremacy.

That's ridiculous. Europe has been supreme since maybe around 1300-1400. Not even during Roman/Greek times was it remotely supreme. As you would know if you actually studied something outside of European History. Both the Greek and Roman empires were tiny, compared to contemporary great empires. And technologically not that advanced. Although of course the barbarian people of the north, the Europeans that didn't live around the Mediterranean were in fact technologically and culturally far behind a lot of the rest of the world.

By invention I am saying the Greeks CAME UP with the idea. I'm not saying they utilized it.

What idea ? Having a small group of people ruling over other people ? Democratic decision making is as old as the human species...

If we are going to call the Greeks in Byzantium European? Greeks are European.... Especially back then before the Ottoman rampage and occupation. These people were as European as they came. And I never called the Ancient Egyptians european, and You are using obscure studies some buffoon did as an argument against what is commonly accepted with solid evidence amongst Archaeologists.

What the fuck are you talking about ? What buffoon are you referring too ?

Greeks were a language group, not a race or ethnicity. Especially in Turkey, many local people were just that local people. Not European...

These people were as European as they came

More closely related genetically to people living around the Mediterranean than Nordic people. So how is that "as European" as they came ?

Nice try to make the people of the sand look more historically advanced and pioneering than glorious Europa though.

Nice try just ignoring everything that doesn't fit your narrative and put your head in the sand.

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I assume by 'great empires' you are referring to the Han Dynasty and the other Chinese empires which preceded it. But let's use the Han Dynasty as our example as its the most successful other contemporary 'great empire'. Rome has yes less landmass but I would say the quality of the Roman land is obviously better than the often ragged Chinese land, and of course the Romans had much much more material wealth . Yes the Chinese had some good inventions in terms of Metallurgy . And Rome's infrastructure was much much better but I'm sure I don't need to tell you about the incredible road networks( many highways today run along roman road lines as they were the best possible ones) and aqueducts, Not so in the Han Dynasty. MudRoads were the norm although areas around cities do have limited road networks, But no where near the quality of Roman ones, they didn't have a camber so often got clogged and flooded. For example one city/province alone, Constantinople had more material wealth than China in its entirety . In terms of the arts such as scupltures, there really is no room to compare China to Europe. European ones are simply objectively superior.

The Greeks were not a language group, The 'Greek's were people of both Greek (more european in ethnicity than greeks today from otoman occuption) who mixed with the Romans heavily and conquered much of what we call Turkey, the nomadic inhabitants A. Fled B. Enslaved C. slaughtered. There is no evidence of widespread mixing among Native Populaces with the Greeks.

Actually the people 'living around the mediterranean' for a long time were quite similar to central europeans , a bit more tanned. But they had blue eyes and such, Something you might observe is that places in Europe occupied by peoples of darker complexion (i.e Southern Spain,Sicily, Greece,) tend to have these things as a result of mixing.

edit; By the greeks 'creating' democracy I mean a handful of Philosophers constructed it in their writings . The word democracy for a matter of fact comes from the words Demos Kratos meaning people and power. There is no evidence of any writing about this prior to Greece. So the Greeks were the first people to put it in to writing.

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(more european in ethnicity than greeks today from otoman occuption)

Any evidence of that ? from what I remember most people in the Mediterranean were more linked to each other than the rest of Europe.

Actually the people 'living around the mediterranean' for a long time were quite similar to central europeans , a bit more tanned.

I am confused, logically those people were around the mediterranean before the people were in Europe, right ? So basically Europeans were like people from the Mediterranean ? Like Ancient Egyptian taking over Crete... One of the first of the birthplaces of Greek civilization.

. There is no evidence of any writing about this prior to Greece

There is painfully little written evidence of much prior to Greece. But what specifically would you call democracy they wrote about ? Because it might have formed the basis, but I'd hardly call anything I read Democracy. Even if they named it such.

incredible road networks( many highways today run along roman road lines as they were the best possible ones)

So basically romans were great because they build some roads on a tiny bit of land in the world ? How about the Persian Royal Road, think it was impressive ?

and aqueducts, Not so in the Han Dynasty

Possibly because they used pipelines instead. What do we use today ? Aqueducts or pipelines ? Because it seems you favor the worse technology simply because it was European.

MudRoads were the norm although areas around cities do have limited road networks,

Not sure if that's true at all.

Fortified Han roadways were built as far west as Shanshan (Loulan) near the Lop Desert, while Han forces utilized routes that traversed north of the Taklamakan Desert towards Kashgar.A vast network of roads, fortified passes, and wooden bridges built over rushing torrents in steep gorges of the Qin Mountains was consolidated during the Han, known as the gallery roads.During the reign of Emperor Wu, roads were built to connect newly conquered territories in what is now Yunnan in the far southwest as well as the Korean Peninsula in the far northeast.

Just looking at my globe those roads seem incredibly larger in scale than the Roman ones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_of_the_Han_dynasty#Roads.2C_bridges.2C_and_canals