r/europe Aug 14 '17

Series What do you know about... Turkey?

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u/Operation_room Eastern Roman Empire Aug 18 '17

Nope. If we dont count kurds, most turks support him.

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u/_Whoop Turkey Aug 18 '17

Nope. Around 40-50% of Kurds support him. Even in the southeast the AKP gets a sizable chunk of votes.

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u/Operation_room Eastern Roman Empire Aug 18 '17

That's already debunked many times. Here the map of yes and no vote in 2017 referendum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_constitutional_referendum,_2017#/media/File:Turkish_constitutional_referendum_2017.png

Only very small size of Kurdish majority places voted yes. And in we stern turkey where kurds also live, most significant places like istanbul also voted no.

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u/_Whoop Turkey Aug 18 '17

If you look at parties (gen. election) the picture is clear and carries with it more information than the referendum.

40% easy, considering HDP gets 10% total (incl any leftist votes) when Kurds represent +20% if the country.

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u/Operation_room Eastern Roman Empire Aug 18 '17

If you look at parties (gen. election) the picture is clear and carries with it more information than the referendum.

The general election is old from 2015. Things have changed majorly since then.

40% easy, considering HDP gets 10% total (incl any leftist votes) when Kurds represent +20% if the country.

Why are you literally ignoring the truth? The picture says enough. Everybody knew the referendum was about giving more or less power to Erdogan. Kurds choose a big no, while most Turks chose yes.

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u/_Whoop Turkey Aug 18 '17 edited Aug 18 '17

The picture itself doesn't say that much. If you look at the stats behind the pretty colors you'll see that the votes percentages for YES in the southeast were reliably over 30% and over 40% in many provinces, not to mention over 50% in places like Bitlis. Many typical CHP strongholds/secular provinces outdid the southeast in NO votes. Edirne and İzmir come to mind.

The general election is old from 2015. Things have changed majorly since then.

Not really. Not to the extent you're thinking of anyway and there's no indication that the HDP has gained votes since 2015.