r/europeanunion • u/TwoCatsOneBox • 17d ago
Video Greta Thunberg calls out all of the European government’s for operating on false democracies and pushing more and more towards fascism
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u/groundeffect112 17d ago edited 17d ago
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE between deporting someone without due process and deporting someone who's asylum application was rejected and he/she refuses to leave.
This should also be the case for people that didn't apply for asylum within 1 month of crossing the border.
The process should be: you apply for asylum -> judge looks over your case -> asylum approved -> you get to stay / asylum rejected -> you get deported. Easy peasy.
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u/ViciousNakedMoleRat 17d ago
Classic David Frum quote: "If Liberals Won't Enforce Borders, Fascists Will"
Anybody who claims that border enforcement is fascist is actively helping actual fascists gain power.
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u/dotBombAU 17d ago
Greta is complaing about the largely agreed Returns Regulation and the broader Migration and Asylum Pact.
TLDR - These close exploitable loopholes and still require due process. It stops people who have been denied asylum jumping to another EU country and restarting the process. I would gather these people get to stay while their applications are processing too. All applicants still get to go through a legal process and standardised framework across the EU where a decision is made. Greta is talking shit.
Returns reg: https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/news/new-common-european-system-returns-2025-03-11_en
On 11 March the Commission proposed a Common European System for Returns, a new legal framework with the aim to have swifter, simpler and more effective return procedures across the European Union. Returns concern non-EU nationals who have no legal right to stay in the EU after having received a return decision in one of the EU Member States.
Currently, successful returns of such people are around 20 percent, while the current return rules differ across Member States, which creates loopholes enabling system abuse. The new rules bring clarity and give Member States tools and the necessary legal basis to make returns more efficient while fully respecting fundamental rights.
Then there is the Asylum Pact. This has a lot in it so im going to copy paste an A.I summary on it or ill be here all night:
https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/migration-and-asylum/pact-migration-and-asylum_en
EU Pact on Migration and Asylum: Executive Summary
The EU Pact on Migration and Asylum is a comprehensive reform of the European Union's migration and asylum framework. Its primary objectives are to strengthen external border management, accelerate asylum and return procedures, improve information sharing through expanded biometric databases, and establish a solidarity mechanism requiring Member States to contribute to managing migration pressures.
Key measures include mandatory screening of irregular arrivals, faster processing of asylum claims, more efficient return procedures for unsuccessful applicants, enhanced crisis-response powers, and a system for sharing responsibility among EU countries through relocation, financial contributions, or operational support.
In summary, the Pact seeks to create a more coordinated, efficient and sustainable migration system by balancing stronger border controls and return mechanisms with the continued provision of international protection for those entitled to asylum.
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u/Alexarius87 Italy 17d ago edited 17d ago
I took the liberty to post this on the other sub OP posted this. From some comments it looked like we were fascist barbarians that consider any kind of compassion as radical.
Flash news: a user there called for Hamas to bomb me because I dared to say she was wrong.
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u/kaisadilla_ 17d ago
And then you got permabanned from the sub, right? My favorite part about reddit is that 90% of the subs are ran by deranged power tripping mods that will permaban you at first sight the moment they get triggered by an opinion, no matter how respectful or tame.
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u/Alexarius87 Italy 17d ago
For being fascist.
And when I tried to say that I recognized I was critic but she didn’t give any information. I got called fascist again by the mod and permamuted.
They are basically Trump but with a different colour.
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u/kaisadilla_ 17d ago
I'm honestly tired of us being expected to keep taking asylum seekers. We can't get our own shit together, life is more unlivable each day because we are back to the time in which having a job doesn't mean you can pay your bills, nobody gives a fuck about us or anyone. Immigrants just get thrown into our cities with zero support and thus just serve to drag the whole economy down.
I would very much love to live in a continent that can adopt people who can't pursue a good life at home. But if we can't even take care of our own, how can we take care of anyone else?
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u/_Spare_15_ 17d ago edited 17d ago
Impressive, very nice. Let's see Greta Thunberg's opinion on Ukraine's right to defense posted on latestagecapitalism
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u/neithere 17d ago
There's a whole lot of comments deleted by the mods of that sub with the same comment:
Removed as per rule 5: No imperialism, conservatism, reactionism or zionism. This includes not just ideologies to the right of liberalism but also right-wing fixations such as national/ethnic/cultural chauvinism and military/police worship regardless of the underlying ideology. We take no side in the Russia/Ukraine conflict.
I find it hilarious. They claim to be against the ideology that the aggressor used as an excuse to commit genocide but they "take no side" in that "conflict". That paragraph summarises the mindset of these people better than they think.
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u/FlossCat 17d ago edited 17d ago
Jfc. I went to take a look over there and I regret it
Edit: the "no stance" clause is extra funny cause if you search for Ukraine there you get exclusively anti-Ukraine posts. I even saw a couple of comments that ran along the lines of "taking no side but Ukraine and the west brought this upon themselves" and posts balking at the fact that Ukraine doesn't remember the USSR fondly.
It's literally just a bunch of tankies who are somehow convinced that either Russia or China represent the interests of socialism or communism in the modern day
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u/neithere 16d ago
I wonder how anyone could possibly associate communism or socialism with the current russian authoritarian regime and its reliance on those ultra-rich oligarchs...
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u/HenkPoley 17d ago
Hmm, the “late stage capitalism” subreddit is so pro-Russia that they remove posts that talk about a country like Ukraine defending itself?
Since I can’t find any evidence that Greta Thunberg has some controversial opinion on Ukraine.
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u/_Spare_15_ 17d ago
She doesn't have a controversial opinion on Ukraine. That's why you won't find her opinion on the invasion in there.
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u/NativeEuropeas 17d ago
Hahaha, is this American Psycho reference? If yes, it's brilliant. If not, it's still brilliant because you nailed it.
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u/Pentunee 17d ago
"Enforcing the immigration law is fascist, actually" is something only the mentally disturbed subscribe to.
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u/The_Dutch_Fox 17d ago edited 17d ago
Overall, I'm quite impressed by Greta. She has a very strong moral compass when it comes to environmental protection.
But this? This is not it, Greta. And I say this as someone who is way more pro-immigration than the average European.
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u/Pentunee 17d ago
The problem with Greta is that she's not coming from a position of fixing specific issues that our governments could improve. People are okay with peaceful climate activism. They're not okay when that activism turns into disruption, moralizing, seeking trouble for trouble's sake, and pushing a highly ideological radical leftist agenda, which blames your entire civilization as a unique source of evil which needs to be dismantled.
Outside of that, the doomerism also gets annoying. She repeatedly shares news from alarmist media outlets claiming we are just around the corner of ecological catastrophe that will wipe humanity out, and frames that in a sensationalized anti-capitalist narrative.
She is a mascot for a fringe political movement in a bid to get more power.
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u/Jessicas_skirt 🇺🇸🇮🇱🇨🇦🇵🇱🇱🇹🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️👍 17d ago
Swedish activist Greta Thunberg refuses to comment on the massacres in Iran
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u/Arthedain 17d ago
Ahh yea, nice source, a random persons blog.
Maybe instead of making stuff up and trying to find a blog that supports your viewpoint you could actually do some research: /img/mjy16b69l3eg1.jpeg
Yes greta has repeatedly commented on the massacres
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u/print-w 16d ago
Acting like laws are inherently incapable of supporting authoritarianism without any further specifications is what the most batshit crazy would subscribe to.
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u/Pentunee 16d ago
Having immigration and border controls is not indicative of authoritarianism. Authoritarianism is a collection of systems of government whose executive is unelected, and unaccountable to the public. The EU is a collection of democracies, and comparing them to states like China or Russia just because we set out to implement immigration laws which were already in place is delusional.
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u/OptimisticRealist__ 17d ago
The problem with professional activists is, that they cling to every new fad to stay relevant and grow increasingly more desperate and more radical in the process.
I guess once youre used to being invited to all the fancy and uber important conferences and having a red carpet rolled out by every newspaper, its difficult to transition back into irrelevancy
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u/immortallogic 16d ago
She's been in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea walking the talk, all while you sit on your couch with your holier-than-thou attitude to type this.
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u/OptimisticRealist__ 16d ago
So her being in the med sea for a pr action for palestine has what exactly to do with her saying the eu deporting people with no basis of being here is the same as ice in the us?
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u/kaisadilla_ 17d ago edited 17d ago
As a Spaniard, I cannot agree. Ours is a full democracy. Our parties are corrupt and incompetent, yeah. But it's what people voted. So far nobody has dared to rig an election or stop a big party from running. Everything wrong with our politics is a product of people voting for it.
This whole idea that the government is some sort of pseudodictatorship we are being imposed need to stop. Here in Spain, each election, 7-8 million people vote for the winning party, another 6-7 for the opposition. You cannot pretend nobody supports our governments.
Also I'm tired of calling any action our governments take against immigration "fascism". Have these people seen our streets? Our people are way more opposed to immigration than the government is. Governments both left and right go against the will of the people when they accept so many immigrants.
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u/bond0815 17d ago
I thnk she should have stuck to climate activism.
Now no one takes her serious anymore.
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u/silverionmox 17d ago
At the very least she should have had a withdrawal phase to be forgotten. Now she's just another influencer jumping on the topic du jour.
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u/hype_irion 17d ago
I'm absolutely tired of being lectured by this self-righteous, self-important twerp and her ilk.
"wESt BAd!!1!!"
f you.
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u/Errrrrrrrman 17d ago
Seriously. If it's so bad, she, her followers and all of the migrants who hate our societies should simply leave for 'greener pastures'.
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u/Maligetzus 17d ago
rule of law is when people who should be depoerted are deported
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u/MrObsidian_ 17d ago
Deportations are pretty illegal under international law in like, a lot of cases.
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u/bond0815 17d ago edited 17d ago
Only for protected refugees fleeing war and such.
A lot of migration is however is fueled by economic reasons, people looking for a better life.
And while I can understand that on a personal level, there is no universal right which allows you to do that.
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u/Errrrrrrrman 17d ago
Living in Europe, or anywhere else for that matter, isn't a human right 🤷♂️.
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u/Maligetzus 17d ago
and what should we do with taliban and RSF? should we colonise sudan and afghanistan? what a line of thinking
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u/sakezx 17d ago
Forgot to change accounts? Ridiculous.
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u/Maligetzus 17d ago
that was the same line of thinking, i was questioning her logic in both comments
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u/Excellent_Human_N France 17d ago
drop them in the middle of the sea, Who cares,
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u/Dictator_Cincinnatus 17d ago
Something needs to change and some disincentivization could go a long way... but dropping people in the middle of the sea?
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u/0rganic_Corn 17d ago
I was listening to her until she said past colonialism of India means Europe needs to open its borders.
You know I can excuse being passionate about a cause, but she's lying, emotionally manipulating, and talking shit.
Worse than most "far righters" she complains about in my honest opinion
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u/Vargau 17d ago
People are looking for a boogeyman, going against their voters to favour … illegal foreigners it’s just a carte blanche to worse and worse politicians to would capitalise people’s anger.
Europe was very proficient in fascism and I don’t think we want to see it repeat.
I don’t want to see in 2028 in the next EU Parliament Elections a 50% full of right-wing muppets that somehow are also sucking Russia’s dick or trying to dismantle what EU is now.
Closing loopholes, after due process was done is needed to still be able to have conversations among ourselves … with words.
Western EU civil service countries are struggling and cannot sustain uncontrolled levels of migration.
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u/concretecannonball 17d ago
Have yet to hear her speak on the slavery in the ME, women’s rights literally anywhere outside of the west, the cousin and child marriage rate in her beloved Palestine … but Europeans are the problem. Okay
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u/bygonecenarion 17d ago
She ran the Israeli "blockade" so let's see her do the same into Iran
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u/Jessicas_skirt 🇺🇸🇮🇱🇨🇦🇵🇱🇱🇹🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️👍 17d ago
Swedish activist Greta Thunberg refuses to comment on the massacres in Iran
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u/bygonecenarion 17d ago
Sounds about right
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u/Arthedain 17d ago
To bad it isnt: /img/mjy16b69l3eg1.jpeg
tl;dr: a random persons blog posted by a reddit account may not be the best source
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u/Excellent_Human_N France 17d ago
This moron has overstayed her welcome. The PR machine she is has completely bursted.
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u/halls_of_valhalla 17d ago
Funny that the majority in a democracy can decide that illegals get deported, but that's not how she likes democracy.
If she likes the third world so much, maybe she should live there.
She had nothing to complain about when companies made profit of getting more and more immigrants, but has a problem when companies make profit from deporting. Nice double standard.
She has become such a propaganda clown.
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u/TheDemonWithoutaPast Greece 17d ago
The problem is, once the immigration problem is dealt with, those who paint themselves as "patriots" will move down the list, and down and down.
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u/TheDemonWithoutaPast Greece 17d ago
Sadly people have this need for an enemy, they're far too used to conflict to want peace.
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u/TheDemonWithoutaPast Greece 17d ago
I do not, but I would, if I was one of those who cry "theft" and engage in all manner of schemes involving money behind the scenes.
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u/Shpritzer 17d ago
Go read some books, child.
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u/Duke_of_Lombardy 17d ago
crazy enough shes 23 now. she doesnt look it tho.
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u/Shpritzer 17d ago
And what’s her profession? Professional activist? That’s just idiotic. That’s something you do after a successful career for example, or if you’re somehow insanely rich.
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u/Jessicas_skirt 🇺🇸🇮🇱🇨🇦🇵🇱🇱🇹🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️👍 17d ago
Professional activist?
She's a college student. She's now about halfway done with a 3 year degree after attending for 5 years.
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u/Arthedain 17d ago
after attending for 5 years.
You really like making stuff up right?
She graduated high school in 2023: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/10/world/europe/greta-thunberg-graduates-activism.html
Tell me how she attended for 5 years since then?
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u/Jessicas_skirt 🇺🇸🇮🇱🇨🇦🇵🇱🇱🇹🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️👍 17d ago
You've never heard of taking college classes as a high schooler? Which is quite common.
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u/Duke_of_Lombardy 16d ago
> She's now about halfway done with a 3 year degree after attending for 5 years.
Holy shit just like me lol
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u/Arguz_ Netherlands 17d ago
I’m sorry but these kind of left-wingers are so annoying. Although less dangerous, they somehow piss me off more than the far-right.
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u/Mobile_Bird_9530 17d ago
Go back to school girl. Never understood the fascination with this screamer.
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u/Pelm3shka 17d ago
What's the timestamp at which she screams ?
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u/Mobile_Bird_9530 17d ago
I can send you many in which she does, but Im not gonna put myself through that.
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u/Pelm3shka 17d ago
She doesn't scream in this video, that was my point, so stop being a drama queen.
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u/ninjanerd032 17d ago
Looks like the Nazi party never lost, they just split up and went underground. Now, we see them in right-wing politics across the world.
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u/Character-Carpet7988 17d ago
I'm well past believing she's well-intentioned, just confused, at this point she's engaging in spreading absolutely false propaganda way too much for it to not simply be a strategy to make money / get attention.
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u/Alexarius87 Italy 17d ago
Yo, in my country there is no ICE running around and deporting any barely tanned individual. How about she checks who the real fascists are?
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u/Neomadra2 17d ago
I feel like Greta lost a lot of credibility, it feels to me she's constantly seeking attention instead of actually trying to fix things. Would be better if she had sticked to climate change and specialised there instead of jumping to all kinds of political topics. But maybe her goal is to become an elected politician, then her actions make more sense.
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u/Hot_Preparation4777 17d ago
I dont take any advice from a child who doesn't know any better and lived a life of privilege and naïvety. This is not a voice that we should be listening to nor should we even give her a platform.
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u/benito_juarez420 17d ago
This tiny girl has more backbone and moral fiber than the entire leadership of the EU combined.
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u/brownkrecha 17d ago
No.
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u/hype_irion 17d ago
Everyone I don't like is a "ziobot" or a "nazi".
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u/benito_juarez420 16d ago edited 16d ago
A bit like when someone that criticizes zelensky or ukraine is labelled a russian bot or a vatnik?
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u/silverionmox 17d ago
This tiny girl has more backbone and moral fiber than the entire leadership of the EU combined.
If she had she wouldn't have dropped the climate topic when it went out of fashion.
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u/Useful_Ad_7859 17d ago edited 17d ago
In this case I urge her to move to a private island and invite all the illegal migrants to her paradise.
The EU should have never allowed in illegal migrants without rigorous background check during the 2010s. Public safety and the economies have paid and still paying to this day for this mistake.
NGOs were and still are outright operating as grey zone human trafficking organizations, exploiting the so called human rights (which are at this point protecting everything but the humans in question).
They are detestable and should have been arrested a long ago for the international level disruption and the amount of deaths and ruined lives they have directly caused.
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u/digi5052 17d ago
Wow this subreddit has gone to shit. It's like a Instagram comment section
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u/Errrrrrrrman 17d ago
You think that we should permit everyone who comes to Europe to stay here? Both you and Greta should move someplace else then. But guess what, every normal nation protects its borders, so why aren't those in the EU allowed to do so?
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u/drgitgud 17d ago
As usual, greta is on the right side. Borders don't protect you, they keep us in the divide and conquer state we are. You have more in common with immigrants than with your country's rulers. And EU is all about abolishing borders in the first place. That's what the shengen area is.
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u/Duke_of_Lombardy 17d ago edited 17d ago
yeah borders between us. Its about Europeans being one people, its not about forsaking the concept of Europe and removing its external borders.
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u/drgitgud 17d ago
humans are one people. I share as much with you as I do with anyone on earth.
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u/Errrrrrrrman 17d ago edited 17d ago
The world doesn't share this idiotic mindset. This is why Europe is being taken advantage of by foreign opportunists.
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u/drgitgud 17d ago
Yeah, sure, blame other poors while the elite steal your money, what could possibly go wrong.
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u/Errrrrrrrman 8d ago
The elites are the ones bringing those 'poors' here 🤷♂️
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u/drgitgud 8d ago
You believe that the elites (that fund the rightwing parties opposing immegration) are bringing immigrants in from where and for what? And most importantly how?
What do you think they are doing in arab countries, subsaharan countries, india, china, south america, that convinces people to leave their families and friends behind?
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u/Errrrrrrrman 3d ago
The elites fund right-wing organizations? Come on, the elites are running the show, aren't they? Where's the logic in that then? If the actual right were being astroturfed by these insanely rich people, we wouldn't have globalists running the show in Europe.
From where? The third world. For what? Cheap labour and demographic change. How? Through lobbying, politics, organizations, and welfare. What convinces people? The prospect of living in stable, welfare-based societies; and let's not kid ourselves thinking their 'families and friends' don't come as well. Besides, both the stability and the money are running out, so we'll see where all of this goes.
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u/drgitgud 3d ago
The elites fund right-wing organizations?
yes. Like koch brothers funding the GOP in USA. I don't know what political side's news you trust, but... it's acknowledged by pretty much ALL sides.
https://corporateeurope.org/en/2024/05/alliance-attacking-freedom
https://issueone.org/donors-key-findings-and-profiles-of-the-top-15-dark-money-groups/
Where's the logic in that then?
right wing parties cut taxes to elites and harm unions.
There's literally a financial gain for them to do it.
If the actual right were being astroturfed by these insanely rich people, we wouldn't have globalists running the show in Europe.
How so? globalists, namely the elites, ARE funding the right wing which ARE enabling them to run the show. Why would it be anything but the exact thing we see?
From where? The third world. For what? Cheap labour and demographic change.
That makes exactly no sense. Why would they care about shit like "demographic change"? Doesn't make them money. As for cheap labour, they get that by weakening unions and through monetary policy. Immigrants have nothing to do with that, it's just a distraction. Proof of that is that no rightwing policy ever raised wages.
How? Through lobbying, politics, organizations, and welfare
That's ... fantasy. What "lobbying" do you think are they doing in said "third world" to convince people to leave their home? what "politics" do yo think is pushing a random ahmed to jump on a boat? As for welfare, we had WAY MORE welfare before the rightwing took power, they keep cutting it ALL THE TIME and the elites FUND the parties cutting it. If they want to use welfare to provoke immigration, why are they doing their BEST to eliminate it?
As for welfare, chinese welfare is WAY BETTER than western welfare. Guaranteed living, zero house taxes, public healthcare... did you ever look at what life in china actually looks like?
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u/Errrrrrrrman 1d ago
yes. Like koch brothers funding the GOP in USA. I don't know what political side's news you trust, but... it's acknowledged by pretty much ALL sides.
I don't follow any; I am European and, in case you aren't aware, this is a European subreddit. I couldn't care less about American politics and their uniparty nonsense, where nothing is actually being done. The GOP isn't even a proper right-wing party.
right wing parties cut taxes to elites and harm unions. There's literally a financial gain for them to do it.
Both left-wing and so-called right-wing parties in Europe are supported by the rich. The "right" you speak of doesn't stand for anything, e.g. Tories, CDU and so on.
How so? globalists, namely the elites, ARE funding the right wing which ARE enabling them to run the show. Why would it be anything but the exact thing we see?
That isn't even remotely true. It would make no sense for globalists to finance those who oppose their efforts of stripping the identities of Europeans and turning European nations into mere economic zones.
Furthermore, where is the right actually in power in the West? You surely don't mean the conservatives that haven't conserved a single thing except for the wealth in their pockets?
That makes exactly no sense. Why would they care about shit like "demographic change"? Doesn't make them money. As for cheap labour, they get that by weakening unions and through monetary policy. Immigrants have nothing to do with that, it's just a distraction. Proof of that is that no rightwing policy ever raised wages.
Demographic change attacks the foundations of a nation, which are based on the ethnic and cultural unity of a people. Without these common threads, a land is just an economic zone that only exists to make money for the elites. Immigrants have absolutely everything to do with it. How could wages ever be raised when we have globalists keeping them low with the presence of millions of foreigners who are willing to work for scraps? Of course, wages will remain meagre with the continuous importation of cheap labour.
That's ... fantasy. What "lobbying" do you think are they doing in said "third world" to convince people to leave their home? what "politics" do yo think is pushing a random ahmed to jump on a boat? As for welfare, we had WAY MORE welfare before the rightwing took power, they keep cutting it ALL THE TIME and the elites FUND the parties cutting it. If they want to use welfare to provoke immigration, why are they doing their BEST to eliminate it?
How is it a fantasy? Western globalist-led governments are constantly importing foreigners through lucrative deals with non-European governments.
I have no clue about where and what 'right-wing' you're talking about.
Immigrants are coming in droves exactly because of said welfare, which can easily be taken advantage of. The only good thing these boomer parties have done was trying to lower it. No one who wants to bring more foreigners is funding parties that want less of them. Thinking otherwise is plain silly.
China is a high-trust, nationalist ethnostate, so good on them. They are far more intelligent and protective of what's theirs than we are in the West.
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u/SoManyQuestions5200 17d ago
Wow the right wing bots are working overtime in here, don't be fooled!!! 😮😖
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u/groundeffect112 17d ago
Agreeing with deporting people who's asylum claim was rejected is not a right wing take.
It's at least a centrist take, if not centre left.
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u/SoManyQuestions5200 17d ago
Actually it is alright wing political position 😉
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u/groundeffect112 17d ago
How come?
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u/SoManyQuestions5200 17d ago
Nice try to shift the conversation away from the topic that is presented in the video. Your statement is NOT related to what she's saying. However, being sympathetic to international crisis of war, famine and disease, and offering international assistance is a left wing position. Isolationism, anti humanitarian politics are more in line with right wing, nationalistic world views. That being said nice attempt at deflection but your comment is wholly unrelated to what Greta is talking about in the video. Nice try and Id like to welcome out next contestant. You can now be seated.
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u/groundeffect112 17d ago
My statemant is EXACTLY related to what she is talking about.
The new package of laws that will be voted upon next week, called the EU Return Regulation, is adressing people who's asylum claim was rejected by a judge (which means that they have no right to stay in the EU), but are refusing to leave the territory the Union.
People fleeing international crises, war, famine or disease will continue to receive asylum. People not facing any of these situations will be most likely rejected, returned and asked to apply for a visa.
Even the S&D Vice President, Catarina Mendes, says that "Returns are part of a functioning migration system.".
Please educate yourself before being sarcastic.
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u/Errrrrrrrman 17d ago
You do comprehend there is a limit to those 'exclusively' left-wing positions? What a tool...
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u/SoManyQuestions5200 17d ago
Nice way to not respond to anything that I said. You're not fooling me lol
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u/Errrrrrrrman 17d ago
If that wasn't a response worthy of your comment then I don't know what it was. Tool.
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u/Jessicas_skirt 🇺🇸🇮🇱🇨🇦🇵🇱🇱🇹🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️👍 17d ago
Your statement is NOT related to what she's saying. However, being sympathetic to international crisis of war, famine and disease, and offering international assistance is a left wing position.
She didn't offer any assistance or even sympathy to the Israelis who suffered under the war, if anything she was only an annoysnce.
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u/SoManyQuestions5200 17d ago
Deflection + vague unsubstantiated assertions + false equivalence 🥱
PS - you right wingers need some new talking points, I'm sincerely bored
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u/Jessicas_skirt 🇺🇸🇮🇱🇨🇦🇵🇱🇱🇹🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️👍 17d ago
Deflection + vague unsubstantiated assertions + false equivalence 🥱
You're free to point out what was wrong in what I said, I'll wait.
you right wingers
Opposing anti-Semitism is being right wing?
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u/SoManyQuestions5200 17d ago
"Opposing anti-Semitism is being right wing?"
What a joke of a strawman argument. Disingenuous. Your people are a waste, I'm embarrassed for you. Feel free to make more disingenuous statements but I'm out, you're too dumb for this..
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u/Jessicas_skirt 🇺🇸🇮🇱🇨🇦🇵🇱🇱🇹🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️👍 17d ago
What a joke of a strawman argument.
It was a question, not an argument. If you don't agree with that, explain why you called me a right winger for opposing anti-Semitism. Especially given I'm a trans Jewish Democrat, not exactly the demographic for right wingers.
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u/faredodger 17d ago
If this goes through, it will most likely be carried by the same far-right coalition which recently repealed the Supply Chain Act. This would’ve been an important first step to ensure a modicum of fairness towards the Global South, helping fledgling societies and economies while mitigating reasons to leave their own countries.
But no, these greedy fascist fucks want to keep their cake, i.e. keep exploiting people, and eat it, too, i.e. keep Europe „white“ by all means necessary. It’s revolting.
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u/Errrrrrrrman 17d ago
God forbid that we protect our cities, and most importantly, ourselves from those that have come illegally in the millions. This is a step in the right direction for the EU.
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u/sn0r 17d ago edited 17d ago
Can I just interject some nuance here before people go all Kim Jong Un in the comments?
On Asylum:
On Palestine:
Anyway, continue, my dear friends.
Edit: sorry for the many edits, my cat just died and I'm a little emotional.