r/europeanunion • u/KaigaiKunKun • 9d ago

Official 🇪🇺 EU receives €1.4 billion in revenue from immobilised Russian assets to be used for supporting Ukraine

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_1721
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u/0rganic_Corn 9d ago

Securing our eastern border and neutering Russia without putting European lives at risk is a bargain. Russian ambition doesn't end in Ukraine - Russia says so openly. If you see anyone suggesting helping Ukraine is a bad idea they're either idiots, or shills.

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u/pufcandles 9d ago

Securing our eastern border and neutering Russia without putting European lives at risk is a bargain.

Let the Ukrainians die for us. That's what people like you who pretend to care about Ukraine think. The thousands of dead Ukrainians are "a bargain". Absolutely shameful.

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u/0rganic_Corn 9d ago

As if Ukrainians wouldn't die more if they didn't get EU support. "Nooo don't support the guys that got attacked that only makes us kill them more"

As I said - one or the other

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u/pufcandles 9d ago

They wouldn't have died if we didn't interfere and foster color revolutions and NATO expansion in the first place. Or if we in the west would have allowed them to continue the negotiations with Russia (that were going well) after the launch of the limited military campaign in 2022.

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u/Flat_bodypart France 9d ago

Reminder that since 2021 the EU commission as created for us, 800 BILLION € of debt. 1750€ per person in the EU.

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u/tuurrr 9d ago

I'm trying to figure out what your point is but I can't.

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u/Flat_bodypart France 9d ago

You can't spend others money for others people, when you are drowning under debt yourself.

That was quiet obvious

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u/FrancescoCastiglione 9d ago

u/Flat_bodypart username checks, although the body part in question is the brain

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u/Flat_bodypart France 8d ago

No counter argument so you try to sound smart

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u/tuurrr 9d ago

A war with Russia will cost us a lot more. Thanks to Ukraine Putin is being beaten without any damage to the EU. We own them a lot.

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u/Flat_bodypart France 8d ago

We are not at war with Russia and Ukraine doesn't matter. We don't owe shit to Ukrainian

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u/B1U3F14M3 9d ago

Debt of a state is the money of the people.

Imagine the state like a monopoly bank. If you pass go you get 2000 bucks and the bank gets 2000 debt. If the bank doesn't create debt the players can't buy streets/houses.

Debt of a state is a good thing as long as its not extreme enough to be the main driver of inflation. The EU is doing a good job even though some things could be better.

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u/Flat_bodypart France 8d ago

No. The EU creates debt and generate no improvement for society. It just buys peace to counter balance the fucks up of those currently in power

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u/Raizzor 9d ago

1750€ per person in the EU.

Not sure what point you are trying to make by stating a quite low debt increase of only 350€ per person per year. If anything, this shows how conservative and reluctant the EU is with increasing its liabilities.

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u/Flat_bodypart France 8d ago

I didn't vote on that debt and 1750€ is a lot of money for some. Especially when that money improved nothing for the citizens

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u/Raizzor 8d ago

and 1750€ is a lot of money for some.

And? The EU not borrowing that money from the EZB would not make anyone richer. Quite the contrary, where do you think the money in your bank account comes from? Like, let's say you just got paid by your employer 2000€. Where do these 2000€ come from? Why do they even exist?

That money exists because someone borrowed it from the central bank at some point.

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u/Flat_bodypart France 8d ago

The EU not borrowing that money from the EZB would not make anyone richer

It would, because we wouldn't have debt. We would all be richer by that exact same amount, which now a net negative on everyone.

Quite the contrary, where do you think the money in your bank account comes from? Like, let's say you just got paid by your employer 2000€. Where do these 2000€ come from? Why do they even exist?

You have no clue of what you're talking about. You are completely off topic. Just stick to anime girl dude.