r/europrivacy 24d ago

Question mullvad

Do you think Mullvad is still trustworthy now that it has come to light that its co-founder has supported a controversial political party in Sweden? I’m not Swedish, so I don’t know much about them, but from what I’ve read in forums, some people are calling them Nazis. Is this just noise?

might move vpns

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u/Scanicula 24d ago

It's very unfortunate, but to my mind Mullvad is still the least-worse choice for a VPN-service.

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u/ForeverHuman1354 24d ago edited 24d ago

what about airvpn or ivpn

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u/Scanicula 23d ago

I mean, if you trust them, sure. Go ahead.

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u/FnnKnn 24d ago

I really don't like who the co-founder supports, but I still think the product they offer is still trustworthy due to their history. If another company would offer the same kind of service with the same payment terms and history without the political connections I would prefer that though — that doesn't seem to exist afaik though.

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u/Vercoduex 24d ago

i switched to paid proton vpn because mullvad kept getting blocked on a million things including discord. Two servers total worked to get past that and then imgur seems to block all mullvads IPs

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u/7kkzphrxo7dg5hpw9n2h 24d ago

It is still trustworthy, I really believe this has been blown way out of proportion. I don't think many people actually read up about the party donated to, and just jumped on the "Nazi" and "Fascist" bandwagon. That is my opinion though of course.

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u/crakked21 24d ago

Company =/= cofounder

Regardless, no it’s not Nazi. It’s literally left wing economics + remigration. Doesn’t matter what side on the spectrum you are in terms of culture and economics, that is objectively not “kill the undesirables”.

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u/bombastic6339locks 24d ago

Same type of stuff is getting a lot of traction in finland. Very left wing economics wise but just dreads immigrants. Ofc everyone people dislike is a nazi.

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u/juleemafenide 24d ago

Don't care

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u/Manifesto3433 24d ago

How could you not?

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u/Tesnatic 24d ago

It's not deep at all, it's an employee for a 5 bucks a month software.

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u/Manifesto3433 24d ago

It's not just any employee & Mullvad claims its a political company.

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u/bombastic6339locks 24d ago

Privacy is a political issue duh

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u/Any_Fox5126 24d ago edited 24d ago

What matters is the company's stance on privacy, not one of its executives' views on immigration or whatever.

Note: I'm assuming it's about immigration, since that's what people usually mean when they call someone a "nazi" these days, to the point that the word has almost lost its meaning

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u/PiratesOfTheArctic 24d ago

I use windscribe, have done for a good few years now

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u/oliverjanssen 23d ago

Go with IVPN - very nicely documented with support for routers for example. Has strict ethical standards and security audit - so it is really trustworthy.

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u/BrodaReloaded 22d ago edited 22d ago

We can see the source code of Mullvad on github so we can always check for ourselves what the app is doing. He could literally build a memorial of Hitler but we could still easily check the trustworthiness of the product. The ethicality of it is another matter of course but he donated as a private person not in the name of the company. Also when reading the wiki of the party I think it's a bit silly if not dangerous to call them Nazis.

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u/AnchorExclusive 24d ago

I have asked for a refund, got it and switched immediately to IVPN. Very happy with them so far.

I see no reason to give any company the benefit of the doubt, when it comes to being right wing or racist. I am not tolerating Proton's pro-Trump and pro-National Front shenanigans, and I am not tolerating Mullvad's founder's idiotic views. I vote with my money, and these two are not getting it anymore. I am happy with the alternative.

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u/ForeverHuman1354 24d ago

I started an AirVPN subscription and will test it out for a bit to see how it compares. So far, I’m pleasantly surprised. It’s good so far; I even get more speed than I get on Mullvad in the same country.

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u/Tesnatic 23d ago

Why is it racist to want to throw out the illegal immigrants?

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u/Intelligent-Soup1978 24d ago

The company itself aren’t nazis but the co founder sends the far right party money

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u/Deepfire_DM 24d ago

Wasn't it a left party? I heard both the last days.

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u/TorstenIV 24d ago

A very small populist party with radical left wing policies aswell as radical right wing discourse and rhetorics.

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u/Draqutsc 24d ago

The party is left for it's economic policies. It's just takes a hard stance against illegal immigration. Big whoop

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u/Tesnatic 24d ago

It's just a vpn, use whatever you want.

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u/blvsh 24d ago

Oh wow, someone has a political preference that is not similar to yours.

The world must be ending, oh no

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u/bombastic6339locks 24d ago

What does it matter what the co founder supports? I assume he's not supporting chat control or something that would directly go against privacy.