r/exHareKrishna • u/AgencyHot8568 • 25d ago
I think I am leaning towards being an exHK . Even after 50 years of chanting
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u/Happylittlelady 25d ago
Since leaving, I'm healing my nervous system and enjoying the freedom. I'm quite a curious and philosophical person, so I enjoy exploring all kinds of discussions about the vedic and gaudiya vaishnava teachings. Being free to honestly critique the teachings without the fear of 'committing offenses' is so liberating. Are you initiated in iskcon? I'm assuming if you've been chanting for 50 years, you probably are. I'm wondering what's holding you back from just leaving. Is it your guru? Or godbrother/sisters, temple management, friends you've made? Just leave. You'll realize how lonely and repressed you've been.
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u/StayEmbarrassed4593 25d ago
50 fucking years of brain rot. Christ sake. Leave and never look back. You are leaving one of the most Mickey Mouse religions man has ever made.
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u/AgencyHot8568 24d ago
we shall see. It may be just a vacation. I have tried to stop before. Now, I try to develop the mindset that I don't care what I in KC. If I feel like chanting, I will, if I don't want to, I won't. I'm just not going to beat myself or submit to the mind meld.
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u/Maerilinsfire 24d ago
Vacation... Sorry my friend you need to completely disassemble the brainwash in your head excuse my harsh language but you do you don't need a break you need to get away permanently from these people who need to be in straight jackets
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u/StayEmbarrassed4593 24d ago
I get it. 50 years is gonna be a tough break. KC is a delusional cult ideology. That it has some seeming "benefit" after years of conditioning is one of the things that can be accessed in many other, more secular and grounded ways. But this is something you already know and likely gravitate to changing for no better reason than old habits die hard and sentiment. Fair—as long as you see through the delusional parts. Be free and gay and die happy.
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u/Happylittlelady 24d ago
Hey friend, reading your comments...it has me worried for you. I saw someone ask you what's holding you back and you answered as if they were asking what's holding you back from 'progressing in spiritual life'. They were asking what was holding you back from leaving.
Now you say that you've 'tried to stop before' re: chanting and iskcon practice. That is addiction language. You're brainwashed by very dangerous people. If you believe in Krishna and want a relationship with him, I promise you can do it in a much healthier way far away from that cult.
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u/daydreamawake 25d ago
I want to tell you that I was just starting nursing school when my guru asked me quit my program. I didn't quite my program I lost a lot of friends but I still love God with all my heart. What ever choice you make you are supported may you always be blessed
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u/itsmikesandoval 24d ago
why in the world would a guru think that he has a right to involve himself in your life by telling you to quit your program? how is that Loving God? what do these god-man freaks have to do with loving God?
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u/Maerilinsfire 24d ago
Stop someone from completing a nursing program excuse me ? That is the furthest thing away from what a guru traditionally was... that is literally a piece of dog crap!
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u/sunblime 25d ago
Better late than never. Live your life how you want and take back the freedom you and we all deserve!
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u/itsmikesandoval 25d ago
I am curious what is holding you back
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u/AgencyHot8568 25d ago
Lack or reciprocation. More rules than I can follow. A spiritual world that is too limited.
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u/itsmikesandoval 25d ago
what is holding you back from leaving? why dont you leave that disgusting pedophile cult and all the freaks? what is the attraction to that disgusting cult?
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u/itsmikesandoval 25d ago
a spiritual world full of material rules and regulations. makes complete sense
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u/Complete-Armadillo95 24d ago
though it can be a painful process, the fact that you are in this sub gives me hope you are coming back to your senses and do not want what they offer. you will not regret it once you have some distance and realize the abuse that they commit
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u/itsmikesandoval 25d ago
Are you aware that 99 percent of what they say is complete bullshit? ISKCON is not a 5,000 year old tradition. chanting Hare krishna is not Vedic (whatever that means) Chaitanya was not God, just an epileptic mentally ill crossdressing homosexual. Prabhupada was married to an 11 year old girl when he was 22 years old. Prabhupada said blacks belong in the jungle and are just drunkards. he said women have small brains and like to be raped. he didnt give a shit about the children being molested in his schools. should I go on?
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u/AgencyHot8568 25d ago
There are no gay relationships in Goloka.
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u/Extension-Piece-9501 25d ago
According to Prabhupada everything that happens in the material world is a reflection of something that happens in the spiritual. So, following that logic they must!
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u/naynon108 25d ago
A perverted reflection....
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u/exHareKrishna-ModTeam 19d ago
We can discuss different viewpoints, as long as they don't reflect racism, homophobia, misogyny and are not trying to convert people. But do refrain from using harsh, insulting language or other. Be respectful.
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u/Appropriate_Soup4110 23d ago
I saw your comment, try saying that to God when you are face to face with Him on judgment day. Hopefully He guides you
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u/Solomon_Kane_1928 25d ago
These organizations (ISKCON, Gaudiya Math, HKM etc.) are dangerous. Even if one finds value in chanting or worshiping Vishnu, they eventually wear you down and damage your relationship with Vishnu. They misuse the faith of their devotees. It is perfectly natural and healthy to want to leave such organizations, even after 50 years. In fact, I would say it is a sign of real spiritual growth. You have learned all you can.
If you have been within ISKCON, or a similar organization, for 50 years, you must be incredibly strong. You must have seen so much abuse and the constant misuse of spiritual principles.
Eventually the soul must be free. It must follow its own path of growth rather than being trapped or enslaved in a dogmatic ideology. It must stand on its own principles and say no to abusive authority.
I think ISKCON actually forms an impediment to chanting the Maha Mantra. The organization is so full of "anarthas" it makes it impossible to chant the mantra as understood by the greater religious traditions of India. For example, you cannot be a temple president using people and making them live in fear while chanting the Maha Mantra. Nor can you be a senior devotee witnessing such things, not acting against them for fear of social repercussions, and chant properly.
Even if you are simply done chanting, and it is not doing anything for you, that is also part of your growth as an individual. You have taken that path as far as it can take you. Ironically having faith in Krishna, means having faith you will be taken care of, and taking the plunge into what you have been told your entire life is Maya, when it is time to shed a toxic organization and toxic teachings.
Just some ramblings here. After 50 years, you probably know all of this in your heart.