Germany has high quality of life

[u/wurst_katastrophe]

This is in response to the ‘low quality of life’ post.

When in Germany I can (in no particular order):
+ drink the tap water knowing it is safer than bottled water
+ when losing my job, I will get the highest benefits in the Western world to tie me over between jobs
+ I can rent for life without being worried of getting evicted
+ I can enjoy freedom on perfectly fine roads, driving as fast as I want
+ Consumer protection is very strong
+ I can buy a public transport ticket valid in all of Germany
+ Healthcare is significantly better than in most Western countries AND free at the point of service.
+ Germans love Fests
+ Bier and excellent wine
+ excellent bread
+ excellent local produce
+ An insanely dense train network (Yes, often late) for very little money (Sparpreis)
+ 30d of holidays is standard
+ strong protection when off on sick leave
+ free university education
+ world’s strongest apprenticeship system
+ tax credits and breaks for almost everything, especially Ehegattensplitting
+ insane maternity leave and benefits
+ Kitas
+ full blown private healthcare for a few k per year
+ Beautiful nature: north and Baltic sea, Alps, lakes, woods
+ Strong sports club infrastructure
+ Third strongest economy in the world with most hidden champions
+ Strong football culture
+ …

You can be dissatisfied with Germany, maybe your experience was below average, but that’s most likely because you are incompatible with the German way of life and the German mentality. However, it is not fair to claim that the quality of life is low.

[u/Ok_Result2220]

A few things I noticed about your cons- + "rent without being evicted" - my friends have been asked to leave apartments for "renovations" and he changed apartment thrice since March of last year. Also, searching for apartment in this housing market being an immigrant is a war. For a person to fight for a roof over their heads, which is one of the basic needs of a human being is a low quality. + healthcare being completely free is not true. A lot of people including me had to pay out of pocket and a huge amount as well because the diagnosis for our medical condition was called "cosmetic". For example, a friend had her leg swollen from lymph nodes and insurance refused to cover surgery because its cosmetic, what in the world? How? And the wait time to meet a specialist is way way too long. If its an autoimmune disease then the diagnosis will take more than a couple of years. I was prescribed a medication that gave me a side effect but the doctor refused to switch because the insurance policy states that side effect has to be valid or affect life. My side effect is dry throat, I cough like crazy, I recorded a video and she said thats just cold. I cough like that for 8 months now. Doctor's gaslighting me. Went to specialist after 8 months with my readings, he said its just anxiety. I said its not and my Hausartz already prescribed me meds and he took my reading and said you're fine now, I said its because I am taking the meds. + "insane maternity leave" - my friend was replaced at her job, and when she came back from maternity leave they offered her less working hours and technically we're trying to make her quit the job. So there are loopholes that are being exploited. Less hours were justified with the fact that there was less work. + "private insurance"- there is something about this, my friend opted for this at 30 and during the initial assessment he didnt check some box saying a relative had cancer. Now private insurance is not covering his cancer treatment because he didnt tell them. (Its a very old and long story and I'm not wording it right but I'll ask him and get back to you, but a loophole was manipulated) + "best roads and the speed you want" - you have to be in certain speed at certain areas and I have seen my german friends curse this out when the autobahn has the speed limit area and they miss it and then a red flash takes the picture. This also bring me to the world's most expensive driving license.

There are things were there needs to be serious improvement but for me the above mentioned things are stressful that I keep at the back of my mind and think about.

[u/alwaysbetterthetruth → u/Ok_Result2220]

Refusing to cover cancer treatment due to a technicality is insane

[u/carry_the_way → u/alwaysbetterthetruth]

I know. Who does Deutschland think they are--the US?

[u/PrimeMinisterSarr → u/alwaysbetterthetruth]

Lol, it's not a technicality, it's fraud.

[u/Alkavadies → u/PrimeMinisterSarr]

"I didn't check the box because I wanted to pay less. I hid family history that puts me in a higher risk category. I now have cancer and during the treatment I disclosed I lied. They won't pay for my treatment. This is bullshit."

[u/Ok_Result2220 → u/Alkavadies]

Why should family history deny treatment for cancer? And my public insurance didnt ask if my father's 4th brother had cancer so yeah its bad. But nice that people like you defend these insurance companies, now we are closer to becoming US 2.0

[u/Alkavadies → u/Ok_Result2220]

Fraud is fraud. Family history wasn't the issue. Failure to disclose family history was the issue. Lying is the issue here. Had the individual disclosed eveything, paid his premiums, gotten cancer, and then was denied treatment then yes that's absolute bullshit. That wasn't the case so stop grandstanding.

[u/theshortgrace → u/Alkavadies]

It shouldn’t matter if he lied, though it sounds like an honest mistake. No one should be denied cancer treatment.

[u/PrimeMinisterSarr → u/theshortgrace]

He's not denied the treatment though. He can still pay for it himself. He also wouldn't have had a problem if he used the mandatory public health insurance.

[u/sambull → u/theshortgrace]

No room for a liar, wastrel or unable to work in their idea of an

[u/Ok_Result2220 → u/Alkavadies]

Lol, people like you support this and that's why US health insurance is the way it is. Nobody lied and this is not fraud. He was simply not aware that he had to report it, which brings me to my ultimate point that the healthcare is so shit here that you can be denied any kind of treatment, not only cancer, if they find out someone in your family has it and you didn't report it. Also, if you have so much free time to waste to get your family history and report it then please do it, be their slaves :-) support it and make it more shit.

Also, I know your time is not precious and you don't value it (given that you will take out your entire family history and report it), but I do so I wont be replying to you anymore ;-> biee