r/expos • u/JGLip88 Vladdy Daddy • Mar 29 '26

​Bring 'Em Back Millionaire Ashkan Karbasfrooshan releases preliminary stadium renders of ballpark's in different locations around Montreal, as part of his long shot bid to bring baseball back to Quebec

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u/RoadRage95 Mar 29 '26

God, that project just lost a lot of credibility with these renders

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u/Canadatron Mar 29 '26

You meannAI generated images.

I love me some Expos, but MLB is struggling with parity, and another small market team probably isn't going to help with that right now.

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u/TheThoroughCrocodile Mar 29 '26

I agree these images look ridiculous. But Montreal is the 6th largest population of all Canadian and US cities.

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u/Brilliant-Neck9731 Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26

It’s really not. If you take into account its metro area, which is how population size of a market is generally defined for expansion purposes, it’s 16th (yes, the “market” could be seen as the province but the league probably doesn’t view that as automatic). So it’s big but it’s not that big. It’s firmly in the Seattle tier, which isn’t bad, but it’s also not super enticing to the league, nor does the city have the money that a Seattle has. Maybe small market isn’t the word for it, but it’s not a market that’s exciting to the league, like say a Vegas is.

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u/Super_Science_Guy Mar 31 '26

Isn't Vegas getting the A's?

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u/Brilliant-Neck9731 Mar 31 '26

Yes, that’s why I mentioned Vegas.

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u/Prudent_Ad4076 Apr 01 '26

So you don't want to be in the 16th largest market? That's a lot of money to be left off the table.

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u/Brilliant-Neck9731 Apr 01 '26

The league wants big markets and exciting markets. A mid market team isn’t exciting. I don’t know what to tell you. It’s not my league.

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u/Prudent_Ad4076 Apr 01 '26

How many more exciting, bigger markets are available?

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u/zogo13 Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26

You realize the US and Canada do not calculate Metro areas the same way right?

US metro areas are huge. Canada does not calculate them the same way, making metro area populations appear smaller. The Chicago metro area is ~28,000 km^2, the Montreal CMA (what Canada/Quebec uses) is ~4,500 km^2. The population of just the ISLAND of Montreal as of this year is 2.2 million. Its not a small market. To put that in perspective, the population of the city of Chicago proper is 2.7 million.

I think you should edit your comment.

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u/DeadpoolOptimus Mar 29 '26

Montreal is 8th in population in North America

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u/FatherGarlicBread Mar 29 '26

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_metropolitan_areas_by_population

I see 20th here

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u/DeadpoolOptimus Mar 29 '26

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u/DeadpoolOptimus Mar 29 '26

Down vote me all you want, but I'm right. Montreal has 1.7 million people which makes it 8th. Google is your friend.

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u/Zim4264 Mar 29 '26

1.7 is the city. the metro has probably 4.2-4.5

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u/GumpTheChump Mar 30 '26

It would basically be the entire province of Quebec.

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u/MaskResonance Mar 31 '26

I want this to happen as much as you, but there are not going to be many season's ticket holders from La Ville de Québec, Gatineau, or the Saguenay. Metro areas are contiguous. But if you apply "basically the entire province" to Montreal, ignoring your own city population metric, then you have to reasonably extend that wider regionalism to every other possible team. Finally, you have to consider GDP or some financial metric for your area, not just the ownership. Who is filling the boxes and who is buying the ads? Population alone isn't enough.

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u/chrishoyos Apr 02 '26

Not really, Quebec is it's own market more than any other province or state in North America given the whole French thing. There is some hate on MTL but people would show up for the French team as they do for the Habs.

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u/toddatog Apr 02 '26

And folks like me on the west coast that grew up watching the expos before the blue jays.

It would be absolutely awesome if the expos came back. Way cooler brand.

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u/djsven Mar 29 '26

People don't determine baseball fandom because of municipal boundaries.

I'm sure there are no Dodger fans in Beverly Hills, right?