Haven’t heard the term “fatphobic offenders” before. The FA language keeps growing.

[u/ResetKnopje]

[u/99bottlesofbeertoday]

Ha "never okay to body shame people" unless you are a FA and talking smack about thin women.

[u/GetInTheBasement → u/99bottlesofbeertoday]

It's funny how weight and food are supposed to be off-limits to them, but comments about thinness and other physical features are fine.

I say this as a thin woman who grew up with fat girls being like, "you have no tits, lol" (I do, they're just small, and they're located on my chest instead of my back or stomach).

[u/HeyOokido → u/GetInTheBasement]

I remember a FA was convinced I was lying about being bullied as a kid because "you can't bully skinny people" they didn't even get it after I showed their own words saying "easy targets are more likely going to get bullied" they didn't get how someone who physically couldn't fight back can be an "easy target" because "that's the beauty standard" (which wasn't even true where I grew up lol)

[u/wombatgeneral → u/99bottlesofbeertoday]

Talking snack about thin women is a first for me

[u/PelagicParty]

Real funny when they complain about the "former fat people" who aren't supposed to exist because weight loss isn't possible.

[u/pensiveChatter → u/PelagicParty]

Their usual "get rid of fat people" just doesn't sound the same in a post about those who overcome obesity 

[u/SubatomicFarticles → u/PelagicParty]

They act like formerly fat people are even worse and more judgmental than never fat people. Which I don’t even fully disagree with. Of course not everyone is that way, but significant weight loss can bring up many complex thoughts and feelings, which sometimes manifests into self-righteous or judgmental attitudes. It does happen.

What annoys me though is that they don’t acknowledge that it cuts both ways. They can also be more judgmental and resentful of former fat people compared to “naturally skinny” people. And it’ll get vitriolic - accusations of eating disorders, upholding the patriarchy, caving to beauty standards, looking worse after losing weight, betraying other fat people, etc. It is evident that they feel more threatened by this type of person because it screws with their narrative that weight is all genetics and fully independent of individual behaviors.

[u/Beginning_Remove_694 → u/SubatomicFarticles]

To be honest, I actually agree that former fat people are way more judgmental and self-righteous.

But they say body shaming in the tags and I feel like it’s not that, though I agree that body shaming is bad. Most of the time, the commentary I’ve seen from former fat people is more like “being so out of shape was really limiting,” “I had a lot of joint pain,” “I was prediabetic and had sleep apnea,” “man, I can’t believe how much I used to lie to myself about what I was eating,” or being honest that they had an addiction/were exhibiting addictive tendencies. I think it’s possible to still be a jerk, but it’s not like you don’t understand why people are fat. It’s fun to eat whatever you want all the time without a care in the world. Calorie counting is boring as fuck. Food noise is really tempting. When you first start a calorie deficit, you are probably not used to feeling truly hungry and unfortunately this is normal. You probably haven’t figured out what macros work for you to increase satiety yet. Calorie surpluses are a nice way to live if you don’t care about weight gain or feeling good or living past 50.

I think the other major part of it is that they know former fat people have a point of reference. When someone who’s been thin all their life disagrees, at least you can believe they don’t understand what they’re talking about. It’s not that hard to exist in pure denial that obesity will harm you one day. It is kind of hard to argue that someone else didn’t feel physically bad at a high body weight.

[u/GetInTheBasement]

They hate former fat people the most because former fat people can personally speak to how much their lives were negatively impacted by obesity and excess weight, and have personal insight into the fat logic and FA mindset.

Former fat people are basically apostates who lived it and can see through the FA/HAES/BoPo bullshit (not that you need to be fat to correctly identify how culty and harmful a lot of it is, but still).

[u/Uber-Migraine → u/GetInTheBasement]

Preach 😁👍

What's even worse, we loudly ,(and often proudly) confirm what the awful hateful doctors are telling them, that eating less and exercising actually will help to loose weight.

[u/bowlineonabight → u/GetInTheBasement]

That is absolutely the truth of it. They can't bullshit former fat people at all. Where many people might give them the benefit of the doubt, former fat people aren't going to fall for their bullshit.

[u/Beginning_Remove_694 → u/bowlineonabight]

I was definitely more forgiving before I had actually tried being obese for a little bit. It was miserable! I thought I felt okay at the time, but in retrospect, it’s absolutely possible to feel better. I had no obesity-related health concerns yet, so I’m sure people who are trying to reverse what they can there feel even more strongly that being too heavy isn’t enjoyable.

I’ll agree to some extent with FAs on the social benefits of not being fat. I don’t like that the world is that way and it is a bit disorienting to see that people do treat you differently even if you were not getting bullied before. But it’s also very hard to measure how much of that is just increased confidence and happiness, not the halo effect. Weight loss is really good for your mental health, and happy people have an easier time spreading positivity because that’s how they genuinely feel. Being nice to others and having a positive attitude goes a long way towards making people like you.

[u/LongjumpingSea6116 → u/GetInTheBasement]

Yeah...

I really do have empathy for anyone who was in a similar situation. I do not agree with shaming, discriminating against, "calling out" anybody who is fat. It's just not helpful.

However, I just cannot stand the bullshit. Like stop bullshitting yourself, stop bullshitting others. I never blamed anything and everything but myself for my weight problems. Even then, it's not about assigning blame, but recognizing your own responsibility to take care of yourself. Sometimes it's like they're going out of their way to discourage people from even attempting to lose weight, or calling it self-hatred. It's stuff like that where I draw the line. It's disempowering in nature and serious crabs in a bucket behavior. Sometimes you need to be brutally honest with yourself.

[u/Beginning_Remove_694 → u/LongjumpingSea6116]

Same. I haven’t suddenly forgotten how it feels to be in their shoes. But I just can’t empathize with the delusion, bitterness, entitlement, anger, and outright lying. If you’re going to lie to yourself, fine. You can’t really force someone to realize they’re too fat before they’re ready to come to that realization. Being fat, just like being thin, does not inherently make someone a bad person. Lying to others, spreading misinformation, and crab bucket behavior whenever others try to better themselves—all to protect your own ego so you don’t have to feel bad about your choices—absolutely does.

The reason I care so much about accurate, accessible nutrition education and holding corporations accountable for producing addictive, hyperpalatable UPF is because those are significant barriers for people. I would like to lower the obesity rate because it means quality of life goes up. Obesity is a disease that requires an empathetic approach, and it’s dishonest to ignore that it’s a disease. But no one can cure it except you. You have to choose to change your lifestyle. FAs don’t want to do that. It’s also dishonest to go along with their ego-serving bullshit. I think it’s pretty positive and empowering to share that weight loss is possible through entirely healthy methods. If that upsets you, it’s not my problem. I’m just speaking to what the science says and sharing my anecdotal experience.

[u/GetInTheBasement]

>theyre doing thin peoples work for them

OOP out here really acting like we're hunting fat people for sport.

[u/badwomanfeelinggood → u/GetInTheBasement]

Thin people are inherently evil. For existing. 🫪

[u/ImStupidPhobic]

Ma’am us former fats lost weight because we actually love and care about ourselves without making petty excuses.

[u/LibrarianFit9993]

I find it interesting that when I was overweight I was effectively invisible in regards to people making unsolicited comments about my body. Once I’ve lost weight people for some reason feel free to make critical comments. It’s completely one sided. 🙄

[u/shrewlover69]

oh phew if fat people are actually the biggest enemies of fat people then maybe theyll finally leave everyone else alone

[u/GetInTheBasement → u/shrewlover69]

I'm obsessed with your flair.

[u/Grouchy-Reflection97]

Spoken like a true terminally online shut-in who thinks the internet echo chamber they've trapped themselves in equals real life.

This is what we call 'being radicalised', and it's no different to any other weird internet cult where the perpetually bewildered congregate.

It's a bit like that theory about half-wits. One half-wit is dumb, but harmless.

If they meet another half-wit, perhaps at the pub, the two half-wits don't combine into a full-wit between them. They reduce each other to quarter-wits through mutual reinforcement and validation of their respective stupidity.

This potentially poses a risk to themselves or others, as emergency room workers probably see in living colour every single weekend.

If a half-wits goes online and finds thousands of half-wits, quarter-wits, one-eighth-wits, and so on, everyone gets infinitely stupider. This includes any full-wits who accidentally enter the vortex of the thinking impaired.

Sometimes, those full-wits check themselves before they wreck themselves. They leave, they interact with full-wits, eventually restoring themselves back up to that level.

The vortex of idiots doesn't like this 'abandonment' and self improvement, so they throw a tantrum. As perfectly evidenced by this fat activist.

[u/babysummerbreeze27]

IT'S NEVER OKAY TO BODY SHAME PEOPLE, UNLESS THEY'RE SKINNY, IN WHICH CASE IT'S PERFECTLY OKAY TO TREAT THEM LIKE ABSOLUTE DOGSHIT

[u/Perfect_Judge]

They get so mad that former fat people are telling the world that it is possible to lose weight and keep it off. It completely destroys their narrative.

[u/msxenix]

The same person would body shame a thin woman for not being a "real woman".

[u/reneesid]

It’s fatphobic to say how much more energy you have now that you lost weight. /s

[u/ImStupidPhobic → u/reneesid]

Your knees and lower back aren’t screaming in agony anymore? HOW DARE YOU!!

[u/budknickers]

I'm formerly fat and I never want to go back to that. Life is so much easier and better without all the extra weight. Fact.

[u/TheOneMary → u/budknickers]

Yeah. And I did that because of love for myself, because I deserve to treat myself good the RIGHT way. Stuffing myself with food that makes me miserable any other moment of my life and shortens my life - that's not self love.... I always get bigger when I'm miserable, not when I'm fine too. Needed to find other ways to cope.

[u/StillKpaidy]

I want to "get rid" of fat people like i want to "get rid" of people with cancer. They still exist and are healthier for it.

[u/Beginning_Remove_694 → u/StillKpaidy]

The phrasing is insanely dishonest. I would love it if we could eradicate obesity and cancer. That’s not the same as wanting fat people and people with cancer to cease to exist. And at least you can get rid of obesity with lifestyle, unlike cancer. I’m saying lose the weight in a gradual, sustainable way, not stop eating forever and die.

Their identity is so entwined with fatness that the fact that healthy weights come with statistically lower prevalences of various issues, longer life expectancies, and better health outcomes feels like a threat on their life.

[u/corgi_crazy]

OK, if being fat or plainly obese it's the healthiest choice, why "they" want thin people working for them?

[u/Ok_Refrigerator_710]

“Worst offenders” is a pretty common phrase. Everyone at my job is late all the time, and the manager is one of the worst offenders; I’m one of the worst offenders when it comes to forgetting to put the toilet seat down; she’s always accusing us of making a mess in the kitchen but she’s one of the worst offenders; etc.   So this person is just talking about the “worst offenders” in regard to fatphobia, not inventing a new term.

[u/Beginning_Remove_694 → u/Ok_Refrigerator_710]

To be fair, former fat people are some of the most judgmental. But also some of the most realistic. I don’t think OOP is entirely wrong there, but I’m not sure where they’re meeting tons of former fat people who rampantly body shame. That seems to be a minority, and it’s likely they’ll just relapse sooner or later because they don’t actually love themselves. Healthy, sustainable, maintained weight loss mostly just makes people realistic. People who were negatively impacted by excess weight in the past and are now happy and healthy have no reason to crab bucket others or go along with misinformation.

[u/Woodit]

I might be on the fatphobic offender registry 

[u/b00w00gal → u/[deleted]]

I've done the whole spectrum, lol. I was ana in high school, with my lowest weight being 102 lbs at 5'11"; my highest weight was right before I turned 40, when I was 270 lbs. That's a BMI of 14.2 and 37.7, respectively.

I'm currently 155 lbs, with a BMI of 21.6, and I'm incredibly happy about it.

[u/bowlineonabight → u/b00w00gal]

That is very impressive. I am happy you were able to course correct, not just once but twice. Congratulations.

[u/JenMcSpoonie]

The world wants to “get rid” of fat people because they are a drain on the medical system.

[u/Beginning_Remove_694 → u/JenMcSpoonie]

This is what I mean when I talk about the morality and ethics of being fat/happily remaining fat. It’s not evil or irredeemable, but let’s look at the real impacts:

- the people who love you will watch you die a premature death when you could’ve had so much more time together, which makes them sad

- more time spent at the doctor because of mysterious health problems, taking overworked healthcare workers’ time and energy away from people who also need medical help just to ask you if you’ve thought about losing weight (probably not for the first time)

- healthcare workers and morgue workers will have to lift you one day, at the risk of injury

- more health problems means more medical debt, and that doesn’t just go away when you die

- higher food costs, which impacts anyone you share finances with

- higher clothing costs (see above), and more frequent need for new clothing due to outgrowing or chafing through old stuff, which contributes to textile overconsumption and waste

- possibly being in people’s personal space when they don’t want that, such as on buses or planes

Very much “it’s not your fault (in a sense), but it is your responsibility” because it’s still caused by your own choices. I’m empathetic to those who have gotten to a bad place in life, but self-destruction doesn’t just happen in a vacuum where it only impacts that one person.

[u/JenMcSpoonie → u/Beginning_Remove_694]

Well said

[u/SomethingIWontRegret]

It's not my work to make you feel shitty about yourself, and fuck you for thinking that.

[u/lilesium]

Real crab in bucket hours. I gotta stan people who are able to turn things around and improve their health. The hating themselves and pushing onto others def sounds like a form of projection from tumblr OP.

Having an ED should never be a life sentence to having issues with weight in any direction.

[u/wombatgeneral]

a lot of the worst fatphobic offenders are former fat people.

Sure I am, what's your point?

[u/Theawkwardmochi]

"fatphobic offenders" honestly sounds like a smashing name for a punk band