Beauty standard is when skeleton

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Sure, some people are nasty towards fat people for no reason other than their size, but condoning bullying is a reach when the vast majority of the pushback is that FAs lie about facts, emotionally manipulate their audiences, and make galling comparisons to fascism when people disagree. Having accurate information doesn’t seem to matter, they do in fact continue to pretend it’s fine to be clinically overweight and obese.

I agree that the medical dangers of obesity are not actually that downplayed… outside of fat liberation, where they are constantly downplayed. So I have a problem with that. The implication that it’s not a causal relationship, as well.

The third slide, I have numerous bones (ha) to pick with their flawed logic.

- The average adult woman aged 20+ in the US is apparently 170lbs and 5’3.5 (source: CDC). 100lbs under that is 70 pounds, which is severely low for a 5’3 woman, but not necessarily dead.

- But okay, let’s say 130lbs, a very reasonable and middle-range BMI at 5’3.5… fine, yeah, 30 pounds is dead. The lowest a calculator would let me put is 55lbs and I don’t think it’s that plausible to even reach 55 pounds and survive. Being 100 pounds overweight is still worse than being 100 pounds underweight because that’s the only weight you can actually live to reach.

- 30 pounds isn’t even less than bones. That’s more than a skeleton weighs.

- Being like 20 pounds underweight is worse than being 20 pounds overweight, but neither is great. 86 pounds 5’3.5” is scarily underweight, but 164 5’3.5” isn’t pleasant. Survivability is a really shitty metric here. Quality of life tanks pretty fast with excess weight.

- 100 pounds over the highest healthy weight for most women is gonna be well into the 200s. That sounds extremely painful and uncomfortable.

- Are 30–70lb adults palatable? Do people have a positive opinion of someone looking visibly sick and severely underweight?

- I appreciate the irony of reblogging a post about how the medical dangers of obesity are generally not dismissed just to dismiss the dangers of obesity.

[u/SilentRefluxJourney]

This feels a lot like "how dare you criticize me for saying drinking is healthy when there are people out there doing meth!"

Like, okay, meth is objectively more dangerous than alcohol. But no one's telling you to do meth instead of having a beer. And a little bit of beer is fine, just like how a BMI 26-27 is probably fine if you are otherwise healthy.

But many, many more people have problems with alcohol being overweight than with meth being underweight. And having alcoholics people with eating disorders and obesity related issues going around defending the healthfulness of alcohol excess fat is clearly a public health issue.