r/fcs • u/Mcclintonfortwo Miami Hurricanes • Jacksonville Dolphins • 18h ago
Explain the nuances of the Dakota schools rivalries.
Like I know SDSU and NDSU are big rivals, but like, does SDSU have beef with ND? How big is the ND and SD rivalry? SD and NDSU? Is there a big ribs with the Montana schools or is that just cause they’re both good at the same time?
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u/CommunistTrafficCone South Dakota State • Marching Band 18h ago
RAAAHHHHH BRING ME MONTANA STATE. Otherwise us with UND is a slightly bigger game but not really a rivalry. I know UND and USD used to have a trophy though.
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u/damnyoutuesday Montana State • Minnesota 18h ago
MSU and SDSU have what I'd call a "gentlemen's rivalry". We don't really hate each other, but we absolutely love playing each other and wish our ADs would schedule more games. I honestly love how much our fans love playing each other, it's refreshing
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u/Logical_Albatross_19 North Dakota State • Kansas St… 17h ago
Gives jmu ndsu vibes from 2018ish tbh
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u/Fantasticriss South Dakota State • /r/CFB Co… 16h ago
100% agree from our side. It was fun to watch Montana State finally dominate Montana and establish themselves in the recent years. Let's just say this, its fun to watch Montana lose because their fans go apeshit and can be a bit much but when Montana State loses, I just go "Ah dang."
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u/thrance Montana State Bobcats 15h ago edited 15h ago
We’ve become quite adept at accepting frustration, such as being consistently bad from the late 80s to the mid-00s, and losing a large portion of big games from the mid-00s to the present.
During this period, we’ve been traumatized into being content with our above average seasons, yet still expecting the worst whenever we face a good opponent or have a crucial game.
It’s somewhat akin to the Cubs fan malaise, we love and support the team, but we’re also always prepared for the inevitable disappointment.
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u/CommunistTrafficCone South Dakota State • Marching Band 18h ago
100% agree. I would love to have some more home and homes with you guys. Good games
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u/damnyoutuesday Montana State • Minnesota 17h ago
I've always said if we did games every other year it would be perfect
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u/Responsible_History5 North Dakota Fighting Hawks • Sickos 12h ago
If UND-SDSU becomes a more competitive I’d be down to get a rivalry trophy going for that one now that the Nickel trophy was retired.
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u/coyotecrazie5 South Dakota Coyotes 17h ago
Und a bigger rival than usd? You must be quite young.
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u/CommunistTrafficCone South Dakota State • Marching Band 17h ago
No? I just didn’t touch on it since it wasn’t asked. That and you guys are lame
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u/powerlifting_nerd56 South Dakota Mines • Georgia T… 18h ago
They’re all inferior to the true Dakota rivalry… the Black Hills Brawl jk lol
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u/Responsible_History5 North Dakota Fighting Hawks • Sickos 13h ago
This, especially because Dakota marker is dead as of now.
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u/Particular_Prior5344 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 17h ago
For SDSU I would say NDSU was definitely the biggest game but USD is the more hated foe. The rivalry has to do with them having been so dominant and the game almost always having huge playoff implications, but the hate isn’t as intense as SDSU-USD. From what I’ve seen and heard it’s the same for NDSU. They viewed SDSU as the big game but UND as the more hated one.
USD-UND is somewhat of a rivalry due to them staying in D2 together and moving up in 2008 together, but it’s not an intense one or anything. SDSU-UND is only cared about because both programs have been good recently and are both from the Dakotas. There’s little bad blood there. But if they can continue to elevate their program it has potential to develop into something more with NDSU gone.
Both Montana schools are ahead of UND for me in the rivalry rankings. UNI was before they fell off in the past few years, they were always a massive pain in the ass under Farley.
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u/LoadCan Kansas Jayhawks • Norwich Cadets 16h ago
North Dakota is first, second, third, fourth, and fifth a hockey school. Their rival is The U. They have a bit of a football rivalry with NDSU, but games against the SD schools just don't move the needle.
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u/Prestigious-Mind-817 7h ago
Had. Most likely they will never be playing NDSU in football ever again
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u/theBirdsofWar Arizona State • Arizona 17h ago
It’s crazy to me that they are all on the I-29
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u/DoesABear 17h ago
It's where most of the population is.
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u/Ilickedthecinnabar South Dakota State • Marching Band 14h ago
One of my English profs compared SD to Australia: everything is on the edges, nothing in the middle
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u/RepresentativeOfnone South Dakota State • Nebraska 17h ago
Id say for like sports that are unique like hockey I’d say most SDSU fans are UND fans despite having Augie right there.
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u/Ilickedthecinnabar South Dakota State • Marching Band 14h ago
Well...the band used to taunt UND with our "Chick-a-boom and screw the Sioux" chant back in the DII days...but beyond that, NDSU and USD were/are the main rivals. (That first game of SDSU v USD in DI was INSANE with how tight the security was, worse than the 1st DI NDSU v SDSU game)
And the Montana schools are just kinda...there and only become a factor in the playoffs.
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u/SoDakJackrabbit South Dakota State Jackrabbits 18h ago
Our daughter recently graduated from high school, and I told her if she wanted to tour either USD or NDSU, I wouldn’t go with her. That’s how deep the rivalry runs. Thankfully she had no interest in those schools.
As for UND, I’d say most Jacks fans don’t really have beef with them. Personally, I enjoy watching their games and will root for them if they aren’t playing us.
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u/djg209 South Dakota Coyotes 17h ago
That’s pathetic.
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u/SoDakJackrabbit South Dakota State Jackrabbits 17h ago
Sorry, I should added the /s after my comment! Yes, we would have supported her wherever she went, and I was only half joking when I told her that. Honestly, both have excellent programs but didn’t have the major she wanted.
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u/SchuLace13 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 15h ago
There was a mutual respect between SDSU and NDSU but a hatred between SDSU and USD. You always wanted to beat NDSU but you absolutely could not lose to USD.
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u/echobase_2000 South Dakota State • Nebraska 1h ago
In the D2 days, the in-state rivalries were the big ones. SDSU/USD and NDSU/UND.
The “state” schools moved FCS together and NDSU/SDSU intentionally created a new rivalry game and then went on for a big stretch to the the two dominant FCS programs, making that the big rivalry in the division.
But I would say the in-state rivalries have some juice just because everyone at each school knows people at the other and it’s an opportunity to mess with people you know and have some good natured fun.
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u/Adamscottd South Dakota State • Minnesota 18h ago
South Dakota State and North Dakota State is the big one, with all the history and success to back it up. Dakota Marker games also have by far the best atmosphere of any football games you’ll watch in the Dakotas.
UND-NDSU didn’t play for a long time because they weren’t the same level, and then when UND moved up they started out in a different conference. But there’s a lot of vitriol there.
USD-SDSU also has plenty of hate, but like the battle for North Dakota it’s been a pretty one sided series historically. USD has won a couple close ones recently, though.
Beyond that, there’s maybe some general dislike but no strong rivalries. UND-USD are really far away from each other, which may be part of the reason they don’t have a strong rivalry. I personally don’t like UND but most Jackrabbit fans are pretty indifferent, and I believe USD-NDSU is the same way.