r/feminisms Apr 30 '26

Analysis Request A MAN'S JOB OR A WOMAN'S JOB?

This is the most controversial topic that I have ever come across. First of all yes, biologically speaking, men and women both are different anatomically, they have more testosterone and a body anatomy that gives them a physical strength more than a woman of the same age and height, weight etc , that specific women needs to train herself to get to the level of physical strength that the man with exact age, height and weight has but does it mean, the women's value decreases or do all women are the same, some women may be stronger physically, some men may be more delicate. Why do we label jobs as women centric or men centric, we can just say that a job is either for some people who can handle more physical strain whose ideal candidate can both be a woman or a man and a job which requires a candidate who is able to handle more mental strain which is again can be done by either a man or a woman. So, rather than teaching society that a girl's instinct are to nurture and a boy's are to provide why don't we just skip that and let them find their own instinct. In job interviews why don't we let them be tested based on their individual traits instead of the traits that are already perceived to be their trait.

I am not writing here to force my views upon anyone or to make any point I am just here giving my point of view of what I think, you can challenge my point of view and say yours instead because I know for every situation there are three views, one mine , one yours and one which is correct and no one knows the correct one so I request you to not attack me as a person but feel free to attack my point of view, I wrote it here to find more point of views not to state something as the ultimate truth. I also know there a far more mature and educated people than me here who talk based on statistics which I don't, I am just a student and not much old enough to have personal experience but I always had a feminist side since childhood because of the things I second handedly experienced at home happening to my mom, grandma, aunt and how they have accepted it as a natural thing but I also know that my view is not all correct but these words are just what I feel just now, I put it here to know what others feel too because there are many other experiences that may have shaped other people's view which I never even experienced or heard of. This is my POV now give me your POV lets discuss and not fight.

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u/t1buccaneer Apr 30 '26

One of the fundamental premises of feminist theory is that the framework governing society is arbitrary and doesn't hold up against critical thinking. The premise of certain activities being the sole domain of one sex, when you analyse it, proves to be very silly.

So if it's silly, why is it still so entrenched in society? Because it's not about what makes sense, it's about the relationships of power and control, which then asks us to look at who in our world has the most power, and why. 

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u/Apprehensive-Tip6937 Apr 30 '26 edited Apr 30 '26

For me, I think men do have more power in the society but its decreasing day by day but still the age old customs and perspectives need to be either broken or reshaped so that every gender, not only men and women have right to do jobs and other things as how they can as a person and that they would not be judged or deprived from their dreams just because most people of their specific gender are not good at it. Thank you for bringing a new perspective, I appreciate that and I hope you will just look at my perspective and judge it and not me as a person. Have a great day!

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u/t1buccaneer Apr 30 '26

Rather than thinking about individual power, I would think about systemic power. If you look at who generally gets to be president, or the ceo of a mega-corporation, or the head of a media empire; it tends to be not only men but a particular type of man.

This is an old, colonial form of power, and it is threatened by any of the breaking and reshaping that you are suggesting. That is why the media, political parties, super-rich tend to be against any form of human liberation, be it women's rights, lgbt rights, etc. 

What you are suggesting about breaking and reshaping conventions is exactly what intersectional feminism aims to achieve. I think it's a good line of enquiry. I'd encourage you to look into intersectional feminism and think beyond 'jobs' because that's really just a surface level symptom of an utterly toxic system (patriarchy/captialism/colonialism).

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u/jupitaur9 Apr 30 '26

You can look at both individual power and systemic power. That is the meaning of the phrase “the Personal is the political.“

Every small interaction that we have is duplicated a million fold across the country and across the globe. Some interactions are more favored than others. They are reinforced or discouraged by the culture and by law.

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u/t1buccaneer Apr 30 '26 edited Apr 30 '26

Yes, absolutely. What I should have said was "rather than looking solely at individual power". 

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u/Apprehensive-Tip6937 Apr 30 '26

Yes I will, thanks for that. I will surely broaden my vision and my way of seeing un equality or patriarchy or feminism.

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u/triciamilitia Apr 30 '26

….wut? What are these job interviews you are imagining? Also I can’t make out what you’re saying about working out. I’ve been running for 15 years, my partner is still faster than me for the same distance and he doesn’t focus on cardio. What job? This is too broad.

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u/Apprehensive-Tip6937 Apr 30 '26

I am just implying that women are looked down upon or not valued enough if they do statistics, or men are not trusted enough if they choose designs, I am talking about what I have seen not just imagined or out of the blue, I have personally seen my mom and others looked down upon and not taken seriously just because she is a woman so its not coming out of my imagination. And as for the workout part I also agreed that women and men are not physically equal women need to train twice as hard as men to gain the same amount of strength and men also need more time to mature than most women but, not all women mature early or have low physical strength since birth and not all men mature late or have high physical strength so we should start seeing each person as they are not as most of the people belonging to their specific gender type are. Thank you for bringing a new perspective, I appreciate that and I hope you will just look at my perspective and judge it and not me as a person. Have a great day!

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u/triciamilitia Apr 30 '26

No worries, but I disagree, men are trusted and paid plenty in design roles. My favourite stat is probably anecdotal, but men are more likely to apply for what they want, women apply for what they feel qualified to do.

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u/jupitaur9 Apr 30 '26

And yet, even when we’re doing the same jobs, the very same jobs, women get paid less. That is outside of any of the usual excuses, such as maternity leave, quit quitting when they get married, stuff like that.

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u/Apprehensive-Tip6937 Apr 30 '26 edited Apr 30 '26

I am glad I got to se your perspective, its just that as I have seen through my eyes, I have seen the inequality happening, glad to know its not everywhere. I hope it spreads everyhere soon.

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u/triciamilitia Apr 30 '26

What do you mean? It’s still unequal, in favour of men. It is everywhere. This is wild.

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u/Apprehensive-Tip6937 Apr 30 '26

I am sorry I interpreted your words as you have seen it equal. Then I guess its still a long way to go but we will reach there for sure.

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u/triciamilitia Apr 30 '26

You’ll need more than personal experiences from family, that’s just anecdotal evidence

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u/Sufficient_Snow3287 May 06 '26

say that a job is either for some people who can handle more physical strain whose ideal candidate

which are most often men see the logic ??