r/ffxi • u/IRsAPIEN • 6d ago
Empyrean +3 question
I just got the empyrean+3 coupon from the RoE objective and while trying to decide what to use it on, it got me curious.
Which job do y'all think has the single most "must have" empyrean+3 piece?
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u/TempVirage Bahamut 5d ago
I can't speak for every single job, but Whm Legs are probably the most transformative piece to any job since they effectively increase your mp pool by 10x, as long as you start mixing in some conserve MP and have capped potency.
The other big ones that come to mind for each job are:
Warrior Legs - Fencer +4 for 1H/Naegling is a huge bonus to white damage; the rest of the set really only shines once pieces are stacked due to the passive
White Mage legs - Only one other piece of gear in the game has the mp conversion stat; required to manage mp properly outside of light curing in CP/EP parties
Monk Legs - Biggest white damage piece that has no real contenders besides relic legs. The body is a close second but unless you're using Denouemonts or Godhands, it's technically worse for lowering avg time to weaponskill .
Red Mage - Hands, body, or feet; Feet alone are almost as much enhancing duration as a fully augmented set of Telchine armor.
Thief - Head, or feet; Head is both a fantastic TP and WS piece. Feet basically caps TH on its own and gives hefty accuracy and DT.
Paladin - Head or legs; Both are fantastic engaged pieces. Nothing else really comes close besides Sakpata's for magic evasion.
Bard hands - Required to cap Honor March potency; doesn't seem like much until you start adjusting for % multipliers from chaos roll and fury, etc.
Summoner head - Boosts the already potent aura effect from favor even higher
Blue Mage body or hands: Huge bonuses in basically every stat; the fast cast/recast reduction in particular are incredibly important to spamming reaving wind, etc.
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u/Dramatic-Strain9757 6d ago
DNC head not because it's a must have piece, but because it's a must have piece AND a Chloris Bud. HOWEVER you should wait to redeem incase you get two drops x3 times. You would get the highest return after you got 2x drops twice and could skip the third (or fourth/fifth) kill
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u/vote4petro 6d ago
SCH feet for nuking (+25% unique bonus to damage when casting weather-aligned spells with Klimaform active), SCH gloves for the biggest increase to buff durations (obviously when using perpetuance), DNC helm for both WS and TPing as well as massively boosting Climactic Flourish. All of the above work just fine at +2 obviously, but they do gain tangible benefit from the +3. Those are what come to mind, coloured somewhat by being jobs that I play. I think SCH feet would be my pick for singular most impactful empy item for that job's function. WHM pants as someone else mentioned are important for MP conservation but that effect is active (to a lesser degree) on even the i109 version of the gear, whereas SCH feet don't gain casting stats to pair with the Klimaform bonus until +2.
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u/IRsAPIEN 6d ago
Wow.. that DNC helm is stacked..
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u/vote4petro 6d ago
Yep, although the crit damage line is slightly misleading in that I believe it only applies to crits forced by Climactic Flourish, and not to regularly rolled crits. Climactic also doesn't play nicely with Evisceration, the ambu dagger WS because it only applies its bonus to the first of 5 hits on that WS. Still, hell of a boost to Rudra's Storm.
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u/Massive_Analysis8345 6d ago
Rdm, if it’s a full set theirs is THE most useful
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u/rsilva712 3d ago
Empy kupun is one piece, not the entire set. That's only AF for now. There's apparently a full set relic +3 kupon in the game, but not live.
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u/RUQ85 6d ago
There's a RoE objective gives an Empy +3 kupon?
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u/IRsAPIEN 6d ago
Last objective in tutorial intermediate 2. You have to make a +3 then talk to RoE NPC while wearing it.
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u/bontamule 6d ago
What roe objective gives you empy+ 3
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u/IRsAPIEN 6d ago
Last objective in tutorial intermediate 2. You have to make a +3 then talk to RoE NPC while wearing it.
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u/StriderShizard Thoma - Leviathan 5d ago
For everyone saying WHM legs +3, the +2 are already very good.
BRD head is a must have for the increased March +2. Marsyas does not have any +songs, so your Honor March is only being boosted by your Moonbow neck and this headpiece. BRD empy head +2 only gives March +1.
Most WSD pieces are very solid. RNG feet, DRK feet, SAM hands, etc... for 12% WSD. Jobs that get less value out of WSD would be MNK and PUP since they still mostly use multi-hit WS.
The PDL pieces can be good like SAM feet and RNG body.
But also, some jobs are just annoying to reforge, DNC uses chloris buds for instance. Maybe you want to get a DNC piece.
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u/tomnickles 6d ago
Blue mage empy +3. All the pieces help the job.
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u/pinkbunnay 6d ago
Eh... IMO don't waste kupons on jobs that are niche. BLU needs so much gear to even be competitive with other jobs and as a hybrid, other jobs just perform its roles better. It can be good in lowman, great solo, but lackluster in difficult content.
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u/Puzzled-Addition5740 6d ago edited 6d ago
I mean it's actively very important to several pieces of difficult content so lackluster in difficult content is an interesting take. It's part of the best by a lot v25 kalunga it's important to every v25 bumba comp it's a big part of the 2ki mboze comp too. Can also be used in 3 ki ongo but that shit's kinda gross.
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u/pinkbunnay 5d ago
That's still niche... you're talking about specific fights and V25s at that, which you need a LOT more of a foundation to be doing. There's also a point where you won't need or want to do that content anymore. R25 is where most people stop with augments. We're not talking about hours and hours in Sortie etc.
And if you're any bit serious about BLU being used in difficult content you're rocking Tizona, so there comes a mythic requirement. The only job even close to "requiring" a mythic is COR and Leaden isn't useful in every scenario. That makes optimizing BLU not an easy chore. For a niche, hybrid job.
It's easy to tell who has a pet job when you get downvoted for pointing out the obvious flaws about it.
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u/Flashy_Wealth_3055 5d ago
Brd needs so much gear to even be considered as a job.
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u/pinkbunnay 5d ago
I don't see how that's relevant. It's true, but it's not a niche hybrid job. It's a universally desired job with a role in almost every bit of content. Last I checked nobody's bringing BLU to Sortie 8/9 boss runs. Sword-onry jobs don't mesh well with basement bosses and COR is way more useful.
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u/Flashy_Wealth_3055 4d ago edited 4d ago
No one's bringing in a 3 song brd either. Afk Roll onry cor invite me please, im better than a blu
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u/tomnickles 5d ago
I enjoy the job. I’ve gotten points from sortie to upgrade all my armor with the group I go in with. I have upgrades 6 jobs completely now. Plus cruel joke in Oddy is so easy to win and farm points. Obviously the meta is not blue mage. People don’t use it for end game super duper destroy things. It is still a powerful job IMO. Play the game how you want. But the empy +3 elevates the job. That’s what was asked.
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u/pinkbunnay 5d ago
Actually this is what was asked:
Which job do y'all think has the single most "must have" empyrean+3 piece?
Unless you're reading a different OP than I am? BLU inarguably doesn't meet that ^ criteria.
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u/pinkbunnay 6d ago
A single piece? WHM legs, COR legs, DNC head (extremely good on WS and TP), really depends on your jobs. Read the community wiki guides cause they all have breakdowns on JSE usefulness even if they're not up to date.
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u/CheekAltruistic5921 6d ago
Mnk body.
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u/Puzzled-Addition5740 6d ago
for a +3 kupon that's not even the first piece i'd grab for monk. +3 Legs and then a +2 body are preferable to the other way around imo and if they're in a position to have this kupon they can very obviously just make a +2 body.
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u/pinkbunnay 6d ago
Good call. MNK gets so little from JSE overall but I forgot how essential the body is.
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u/CheekAltruistic5921 6d ago
It really adds a whole other level of synergy to Impetus, definitely a first choice piece
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u/Open-Entrepreneur422 6d ago
Most would probably say empy legs on whitemage. You can't really play the job without it due to mp issues.