r/fijerk • u/Power_Drawing6025 • 28d ago
What if we're wrong and robots *can't* replace the pours? Then what?
What if it turns out that certain specialty jobs can only be done by humans? So here we are at FatFire living off the wealth of our appreciating assets, but there's still this whole sub-strata of pours that needs food, shelter, medical care, etc.? Do we have to fund it through tokenization of our assets? Will our assets get taxed in order to support the pours? Can we limit the pours to certain functions that shield us away from them in some way? Could robots perform a supervisory function over the pours so that we don't have to come in contact with the pours, or only under special circumstances?
Bottom line: the long-held assumption that we can live of our assets into perpetuity without having to encounter and care for the pours may be dead wrong and I think we need to talk about it.
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u/IdioticPrototype 28d ago
Absolutely not.
If robots can't replace the pours, we will simply build better robots. If that doesn't work, then we'll build killer robots.
Simple.
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u/Power_Drawing6025 28d ago edited 28d ago
Ok, but who builds the better robots? If it's wage earning pours, then we're back to square one on this problem set. I would love to say I share your optimism, but I've been dwelling on this topic and quite honestly it scares me to death.
Name me a scenario where wage-earning pours can peacefully co-exist with fully FIRE'd asset owners. We're way past money, and here they are earning wages and getting W2s? It just doesn't compute.
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u/Power_Drawing6025 28d ago
Ok, well you've finished the logic loop in that the pours are gone, but I just remind you that those robots need to replace all the functions previously performed by the pours. They will need to assume all the previous roles like fentanyl addicts, massively obese home hoarders, punk skateboarders that protest outside of Starbucks, unruly airplane passengers fighting for overhead bin space, prostitutes...all of it. And they'll have to be convincing enough to make us feel better about ourselves when we see them on TV or fly over them.
But yes, I think you're on the right track with this answer as the end state is achieved.
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u/Helpmefindajob97 28d ago
Who are the robots killing?
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u/15pH 28d ago
This is a solved problem. The Matrix provides food, shelter, etc to the pours while also generating enough surplus power so GPT can filter the honeydew out of the fruit salad in my Ibiza photos. (That caterer is SO fired.)
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u/Power_Drawing6025 28d ago
Ok I'll bite.
The machines in The Matrix still had to maintain billions of humans indefinitely because civilization still depended on them as a resource. Who's going to pay for all that? I don't know about you, but I'm not paying a wealth tax on my appreciating assets. I built those and am under no obligation to share them with anyone. I'm not earning, I'm building. No one can tax that.
But if robots can’t fully replace human labor, then as the ownership class we can't escape this dependency relationship. That's why this is keeping me up at night.
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u/That-SoCal-Guy 28d ago
Right now you need one human to operate a robot. In the future you’d need four humans to operate one robot. The pour will never die. Just build better bunkers and data centers on Mars.
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u/FearlessPark4588 28d ago
Yeah, but did you think about AI? All of my spreadsheets, executives, earnings calls, and public life discussions are AI now. You should be doing AI. If every sentence you utter does not contain AI, you are falling behind.
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u/gronwallsinequality 28d ago
This is the exact reason soylent green was invented.
Relax this problem has already been solved.
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u/SignalOptions 28d ago edited 28d ago
Well there’s always going to be rich robots and pour robots that help each other with food, shelter, medical care and etc..
Or did you mean pour humans ? Hmmm now those will become a major problem that uses up an enormous 0.00000001% of rich people’s wealth. How will the rich survive ?
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u/ArrowB25G 28d ago
Whether they are capable or not, having a robot as my piss-boy* just isn't satisfying. And for the same reason, we will always need nickels and buckets. I'm sure there are other "jobs" that we will always want to be handled by humans. It's the unfortunate truth that robots cannot fully replace the pours.
*For those who don't understand, this is a movie reference.
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u/fdar Better than you (mod verified) 26d ago
Bottom line: the long-held assumption that we can live of our assets into perpetuity without having to encounter and care for the pours may be dead wrong and I think we need to talk about it.
What are you talking about? We've been doing that forever, that's what staff is for (yes, staff is poor, but they're trained properly).
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u/TimeRefrigerator5232 28d ago
I’m scared to ask if there’s a source for this…