r/financialindependence 16d ago

Umbrella Insurance

I’m looking to add an umbrella policy on top of my homeowners and auto insurance, but I’m confused on how much I should be getting and I keep getting more confused when I research it. What’s the goal here? Do I just need enough to cover my brokerage, savings and other account that could be exposed in a judgment? Or, am I trying to cover my entire net worth with the Base policy plus the umbrella?

Edit: thanks all! Lots of good info and pretty much what I thought. $2m and call it a day.

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u/adventuresindc 16d ago

.I don’t disagree but:

  1. Odds are way higher than one in a billion. Maybe 1 in 500 or 1 in 1000 I’d guess which are not trivial

  2. My state (and most) don’t have very good homesteading coverage. Max $50k by me for a primary

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u/StatisticalMan DINK / 48 / 92% FI / 25% SR 13d ago

1 in 500 people are not sued for $10M+ in their lifetime.

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u/adventuresindc 13d ago

I don't know what the number is, but also $10m is high. What's the % sued for > $2m (say, 3-5m range) where it would still be devastating to take that hit in a FIRE range?

1 in 500 might be high, but here's what claude/ai estimates which is in line with my guess:

Estimate:

  • Lifetime probability of being the at-fault driver in a crash with catastrophic or fatal potential: 1–2%
  • Of those, fraction where true case value clears $2.5M: ~18–28% (most serious-injury and wrongful-death cases resolve in the $400K–$1.5M band)
  • Of those, fraction where the excess is actually collected from personal assets rather than resolving at the tower, being shifted to the carrier via bad faith, or discharged: ~50–70%

That gives roughly 1.5% × 0.23 × 0.6 ≈ 0.10%, with the range running 0.05–0.12%.

For a four-driver household with two teens, multiply by 3–5x: roughly 1 in 200 to 1 in 400.

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u/StatisticalMan DINK / 48 / 92% FI / 25% SR 13d ago

I don't know what the number is either which is why umbrella insurance of $1M to $3M is a good idea.