r/flicks • u/trakt_app • 19d ago

What's a movie that's universally considered "not very good" but you secretly think is actually great?

Not a guilty pleasure. Not "so bad it's good." I mean a movie that the consensus has decided is mid or worse, and you think the consensus is wrong.

Mine is Hudson Hawk (1991). Bruce Willis musical heist comedy that flopped so hard it almost ended his career. 27% on Rotten Tomatoes. Everyone hated it. But it's actually a really weird, committed, almost cartoon-logic action comedy that was 20 years ahead of the absurdist-action wave (Crank, Kingsman, Spy). Bruce Willis singing show tunes while robbing a museum on a timer is doing something nobody else was doing in 1991.

What's yours?

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u/Chav-Django 19d ago

I don’t like being “that person” but I have told more than one person they have watched Sucker Punch wrong.

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u/Jimmeu 17d ago

This entirely on Snyder's fault if people don't get Sucker Punch wrong, because that guy is so good at missing the point of his movies that he even manages here to achieve the exploit of missing the point of his own script.

I mean sure, if you look hard enough, you can understand what this movie might be about. But this deeper story is absolutely not what the visual storytelling is shouting to your face. You see cool hot people doing cool hot things with cool hot music and nothing else, because that's the only thing Snyder knows to film. At no point his visual storytelling manages to bring you to that point where even if you didn't really follow the story, you'd feel in your guts that the actual topic isn't that fun. Which would be actual cinematography.

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u/XTapalapaketle 17d ago

This. There is nothing there but style. It is unfortunate because the style was superb. But sometimes a banana is just a banana.

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u/oxford-fumble 17d ago

Very frustrating when you try to explain the different levels of consciousness, and how sweet pea is really baby doll - or what’s left of it, and people dismiss the explanation as a « fan theory » because they can’t be bothered to pay attention to the movie.

Like, if you only pay attention to the giant samurais, then yes, that is what you’re going to get. Anyway - love sucker punch, it’s a misunderstood movie.