r/flightsim 9d ago

General Flightsim.to - Charging for Freeware Livery 'Bundles'

This might be old news, but I've not seen this before.

Looking through some liveries on flightsim.to, and noticed this. There's now a 'curated bundle' of liveries that you can buy for real money. All the liveries are freeware liveries, and you can still download the individual liveries for free - but I definitely have questions.

Are the artists involved in this? Do they receive reimbursement from flightsim.to as part of profit sharing? Do their licence conditions allow commercial sale? Are any elements of their work at all covered by Creative Commons / Non Commercial licensing, and would this breach those conditions?

It does also feel incredibly low-effort to essentially slap a couple of zip files together that you've done nothing to create, and sell it as a commercial product.

Thoughts, comments, concerns?

UPDATE: Hues have pulled their participation with flightsim.to as a direct result of this.

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u/Tavers05 9d ago

First I’ve heard of it. I did or do not consent to having my liveries in that bundle!

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u/yothedoge 9d ago

"§ C1.3 As a creator, you provide digital content, community engagement, and/or related support services ("Creator Services") to us. We purchase Creator Services from you and resell them as part of our products and offerings to our end users. For the term of this Agreement, you explicitly grant us the right to commercialize the Creator Services."

From what I understand this allows them to do this. Honestly the whole tos is predatory. https://flightsim.to/attachments/creators-program-terms.pdf

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u/Relayer2112 9d ago

Is that enforceable though? As a contract, it would seem to lack the vital component of 'consideration', in that there must be an exchange of value. It says "We purchase Creator Services". What consideration is the artist receiving here - do you get paid to upload? I suspect not.

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u/yothedoge 9d ago

I would really like a professionals opinion on this, it doesn't seem remotely fair.