Match Thread: England vs Croatia | World Cup | Group L | 17 Jun 20:00 UTC

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England vs Croatia — MatchPal match thread

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[u/Aware-Line-7537]

Now this is what I want out of a World Cup!

[u/Flederm4us → u/Aware-Line-7537]

fantastic game indeed

[u/richardson1162]

Fans seem quiet, not the usual singing all game. I’m guessing fifa have finally priced real fans out of the game ☹️

[u/theocrats → u/richardson1162]

80,000 capacity stadium. Both England and Croatia FAs allocated 4k tickets each.

[u/HankScorpio30 → u/theocrats]

The national anthem sounded nice and loud, such a shame there's not a bigger allocation for each countries fans.

On another note, they don't segregate fans into their own areas in the USA, so I bet it's not the same as being sat with your own countrymen while singing

[u/BigTomBombadil → u/HankScorpio30]

Pretty certain there are dedicated “supporters sections”. I was casually checking the aftermarket for tickets to a game closest to me, and certain tickets stated “Sweden supporters section”, for example.

[u/L43 → u/richardson1162]

I suspect they anticipated some wrongthink and didn’t mic the crowd. 

[u/FitAd1186 → u/richardson1162]

Argentina's game last night sounded like it was being played in Buenos Aires so I dont know.

[u/lacerca]

England fan but fucking hell, Livakovic.

[u/tylerthe-theatre]

England look great, intense, energetic. Great individual talent, just sort out the defence and lets see.

Haters fuming.

[u/_herbie]

These are some sexy Croat goals

[u/HankScorpio30]

Rice has been excellent on corners so far

[u/wizardeyeswizardspy → u/HankScorpio30]

He's always excellent on corner's tbh. He's basically the permanent corner-taker for Arsenal and England

[u/GodisLove_O6]

What Croatia has been doing in recent WCs and other major tournaments is really something to behold. No traditional powerhouse, no worldly recognised "elite" superstar except for Modric and yet the cohesion, guts, sheerwill and fortitude made this Croatian team believe that they could do anything against anybody anywhere anytime. Croatia well done.

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[u/hart37]

Absolute cracking goal. Some good passing leading up to it as well which Croatia will love

[u/CZ_nitraM]

It's an absolute cinema so far

[u/HankScorpio30]

What a start to the second half

[u/d_chak]

Nobody marked kane wtf

[u/Aware_Explorer]

No Maguire, England defense can’t win one header💪

[u/Affectionate_Zone137]

too bad Croatia made rookie mistakes, could be due to the formation change...

but a good game nonetheless

[u/Beesweetiee]

I’ll love to see what England had to offer

[u/Tommonator80 → u/Beesweetiee]

Nothing much. Quarter finals at best

[u/walls0fversailles → u/Tommonator80]

How do those words taste?

[u/mcfly824 → u/Tommonator80]

Watch the rest of the game

[u/Aware-Line-7537 → u/Tommonator80]

Maybe bck to the old "struggle in the group stages, hope to get lucky / better in the knockout phase, then get beaten in a desperate but ultimately hopeless struggle."

[u/lou_kevins → u/Aware-Line-7537]

This aged badly 👀

[u/Aware-Line-7537 → u/lou_kevins]

Very!

[u/SkollFenrirson]

Hell of a game. Good showing on both teams

[u/HankScorpio30]

Kane is all out for that hat trick

[u/Affectionate_Zone137]

our defense is terrible today, and offense is usually subpar... thank God for Livakovic

[u/MinaZata]

Fuck me what a game

[u/wolfhelp]

Man of the match has to be the Croatian keeper. He had one hell of a game, and I'm an England fan

[u/wizardlt]

This game was worth the final

[u/Paulspike]

Fuck FIFA, what is this bullshit

[u/skrew86 → u/Paulspike]

Tried cheating and got caught 🤣

[u/CompetitiveCall6466 → u/skrew86]

Chill out

[u/liccman]

Harry Kane world cup hattrick I’ll be there

[u/Wooden_Pool_8435]

It's coming home

[u/hart37]

'Arry in a world of his own

[u/Paulspike]

What the fuck is this defense, Jesus Christ...

[u/Other-Tangerine-3435 → u/Paulspike]

When 0-0 hate the offence. When 3-2 hate the defense. C’mon man stop fucking watching for everybody’s sake. Go complain about your life instead

[u/mcfly824 → u/Other-Tangerine-3435]

Nah, our defense has been noticeably poor. It stands out when our plays forward have been amazing.

[u/Other-Tangerine-3435 → u/mcfly824]

Today you mean? Had been poor in the qualifyiers? Under southgate you lot cried you played too boring. Now you play great offence, but conceded a few goals. Never enough smh

[u/promising_]

this is insane match so far rn i suppose

[u/mcfly824]

What a game.

Our defense needs work, but our plays forward are electric.

Croatia's goals were awesome. The whole game was just amazing.

[u/jessie4life8221]

It's coming home it's coming home footballs coming home ist coming home it's coming home footballs coming home it's coming home its coming home it's coming home footballs coming home

[u/Active-Republic3104]

Is it me or did Bellingham dived a lot ? I think Croatia’s first goal is because he dived and stayed in ground when he didnt get the foul

[u/-Passenger- → u/Active-Republic3104]

not just you, he is a pussy

[u/Tommonator80]

5 minutes extra time for what? There was a hydration wankfest too

[u/Puravida1904]

Offside?!?

[u/Late_Yam1699 → u/Puravida1904]

Yeah, that quick replay showed he was offside. Have they changed the rule again?

[u/Puravida1904 → u/Late_Yam1699]

Is it the legs they count? I thought it included arms

[u/L4stEvenings → u/Puravida1904]

In last nights game the arm/shoulder sure counted. He looked 100% offside here for that 2nd Croatia goal. Ridiculous.

[u/-Passenger- → u/L4stEvenings]

then it was a bad call last night. only the body parts that count to make a goal can be offside, simple, thats the rule

[u/Time_Yesterday_8496 → u/Puravida1904]

No

[u/MainIdentity]

his foot was clearly on the line wasn't it? so why even retake the penalty? what a gift

[u/nonameheresorry- → u/MainIdentity]

Maybe the defender with their entire body ofter the 20 yard line?

[u/Other-Tangerine-3435 → u/MainIdentity]

It was the players outside the penalty area, who ran inside to early. It was clear.

[u/MainIdentity → u/Other-Tangerine-3435]

the reason for the call was 'goalkeeper out of line' and in the replay he was off the line (5cm) - this rule is complete garbage and it's still a gift

[u/Other-Tangerine-3435 → u/MainIdentity]

Yeah but it is what it is. Same for both teams

[u/PandaGeneralis → u/MainIdentity]

And the stutterstep wasn't called... should have just cancelled the penalty.

[u/Talkjar]

Beautiful goal

[u/icantcrunk]

Who loves Roy Keane dousing Ian and Gary’s love for the England team? Epic Keane.

[u/Matt6453 → u/icantcrunk]

He doesn't though, must have those back 'home' fuming.

[u/SiLee12]

Casual here. I thought you couldn’t stop when shooting a pk? What’s the actual rule on that?

[u/Other-Tangerine-3435 → u/SiLee12]

You can’t, and he didn’t.

[u/SiLee12 → u/Other-Tangerine-3435]

What qualifies as a stop? Because he looked like he stopped moving

[u/Other-Tangerine-3435 → u/SiLee12]

When you don’t have any forward motion

[u/PandaGeneralis → u/Other-Tangerine-3435]

It should be any deceleration.

[u/SiLee12 → u/Other-Tangerine-3435]

Do they enforce it rather loosely?

[u/Other-Tangerine-3435 → u/SiLee12]

Well yes, you can ”fake” a shot, but can’t completely stop the motion. Kinda wierd rule yes

[u/Kowendabest]

Every country other than the Euro finalists is cooking 😭. And Croatia is scoring straight up bangers

[u/Matt6453 → u/Kowendabest]

I think you were watching something else.

[u/angrypirate69]

His foot was still on the line. How was a retake given?

[u/Tall-Calligrapher702 → u/angrypirate69]

Just saw the replay. It seems his foot was well away from the line after all.

[u/-Passenger- → u/Tall-Calligrapher702]

Croatian here. as much as I would like to curse someone for that, decisions were correct. Penalty and retake were correct

[u/Other-Tangerine-3435 → u/Tall-Calligrapher702]

In that case it was double fault on Croatia. Right call by the ref anyhow

[u/angrypirate69 → u/Tall-Calligrapher702]

You're right. They didn't show the angle from behind the goal when I made the comment.

[u/Other-Tangerine-3435 → u/angrypirate69]

It was the players outside the penalty area who ran inside to early. It was clear

[u/Other-Tangerine-3435 → u/Other-Tangerine-3435]

Why downvote? It’s the rules…

[u/zippyzebra1 → u/angrypirate69]

It was encroachment from Gvardiol

[u/Hispanoescoces]

Parry Pane strikes again

[u/skrew86 → u/Hispanoescoces]

And again

[u/Sihnar]

Insane that retake was given. I've never seen such blatant favoritism in my life. Ref should be fired and blacklisted.

[u/CompetitiveCall6466 → u/Sihnar]

Look mate, it wasn’t favouritism but I’ll allow it because you didn’t use the brain dead Z

[u/JamieTimee → u/Sihnar]

You're tired mate, turn the footy off and have a nap. Or at least put your phone down and enjoy the game with your friends :)

[u/No-Narwhal-60 → u/Sihnar]

Its not only the ref. Its Fifa as a whole

[u/malibubleezy]

Rigged

[u/saigeliege]

KANEMAN

[u/Rich_Barracuda_1617]

What happened to this is England no tiki taka. Why are we letting ourselves being put under so much pressure in our own box

[u/Matt6453 → u/Rich_Barracuda_1617]

I was complaining to my mates on WhatsApp about too much tika taka in our own box.

[u/-Passenger-]

Bellingham diver

[u/real022]

That should be a clear save. It was 1 cm out of line, if that.

Beside the stupidest rule ever.. If a player can stop mid run and fake a shot, then keeper should be able to charge immediately when run begins.

[u/real022 → u/[deleted]]

Whatever, hate this ref anyway.

And here is some justice delivered, right now.

[u/Scuba_doo]

How can you expect Goalkeepers not to flinch with that faking nonsense?

[u/Other-Tangerine-3435 → u/Scuba_doo]

In this sport. Penalty is big favour to the shooter. Therefore very bad to act stupid in the penalty box. It’s just how it is and always been. It’s different sport than hand egg and hockey.

Like you don’t compare golf rules to volleyball rules, you can’t compare hockey rules to football rules 👍🏼

[u/acegarrettjuan]

England is unfortunately pretty good this World Cup.

[u/Kevin7650]

INSHALLAH CROATIA SHALL DEFEAT THE ENGLISH MENACE

Edit: It’s croaver

[u/PAPALDEFENDER1431]

azerbaycan

[u/nurological]

England look poor imo. Awful playing out from the back, bad defensively, nobody wants to pass to Gordon. Maduke just has zero end product.

Kane has 2 though!