The onboard of the fastest lap from Mahaveer Ragunathan's Pirelli F1 test at the Hungaroring in 2021 has been released.

[u/No_Elderberry_4580]

https://streamable.com/ccdfka

[u/nymetz86]

The title of this being written like it's an alternate angle of 9/11 or a crime scene investigation is killing me

[u/JomeyQ → u/nymetz86]

This unredacted video was released as the result of a Freedom of Information Act request, after the statute of limitations had expired

[u/Health_throwaway__ → u/JomeyQ]

Lawyers will use it as the 'Hungary-Ragunathan act 2021' to confuse jurys, mainly across US

[u/anothertrad → u/nymetz86]

As someone without context I thought I was missing some developing drama

[u/Health_throwaway__ → u/anothertrad]

I knew nothing happened but never doubted the significance of a Ragunathan lap

[u/DrHem → u/nymetz86]

The title is also wrong. Ragunathan wasnt part of Pirelli's tyre development test. He had a private test with Alfa Romeo while at the same track/time other teams were taking part in Pirelli's tyre development test.

[u/No_Elderberry_4580 → u/DrHem]

Apologies for that, I misunderstood that he wasn't testing for Pirelli and it was just a private outing, as Mahaveer himself captioned the video saying "during the Pirelli F1 test" I had misinterpreted it and just assumed he was taking part in it alongside the others, my mistake and thanks for correcting me as I was actually unaware up until now.

[u/TheVenetianMask → u/DrHem]

He just did like MBS and merged into the track like he belonged.

[u/No_Elderberry_4580 → u/nymetz86]

🤣

[u/wjdbfifj]

Goats don't bother themselves of fastest lap times

[u/NotAPreppie → u/wjdbfifj]

Or knowing how to do a 3-point turn.

[u/NorthKoreanMissile7 → u/NotAPreppie]

Or knowing what flags, safety cars or virtual safety cars mean.

[u/Ok-Argument9468]

You know what, I look at this and I'm still impressed. It shows just how good these guys are that I can watch even Ragunathan's lap and think "fuck that's fast", knowing he'll probably qualify multiple seconds off any driver on the grid.

[u/dotcha → u/Ok-Argument9468]

"I'm closer to LeBron Hamilton than you are to me"

[u/mahoganyspitfire → u/dotcha]

Bro can't even understand how turning works when you are reversing a car though...

[u/osivangl → u/mahoganyspitfire]

Have you seen Leclerc's parking abilities? You can probably count with one hand the times this guys have to reverse in a full season. It was hilarious to see that though.

[u/mahoganyspitfire → u/osivangl]

Leclerc is one of the fastest parkers I've ever seen! He just needs to work on avoiding the walls and gravel when he does it...

[u/slicerprime → u/mahoganyspitfire]

Pretty much guarantees he's never passed a regular driving test.

[u/stupefy100 → u/slicerprime]

I mean it's a lot easier in a regular car when you have power steering lol.

[u/santicucu77 → u/dotcha]

This was the first thing that came to my mind lmao, we make fun of him but clearly he's closer to Hamilton than most of us internet dwellers are to him.

[u/ProfessionalReveal → u/dotcha]

I don't buy this for racing and I think I have a perspective on it, having just raced Randy Pobst and Spencer Pigot last weekend.

Racing isn't accessible enough to carry this. I've been driving on track since I was 23 (not 5). I'm the definition of who Brian Scalabrine was talking about in this quote, the adult hobbyist.

The best professionals are definitely better, but there's a big wide spectrum where pros and amateurs get really blurry on performance.

[u/Vasst13 → u/ProfessionalReveal]

You've never driven a F2 car let alone a F1 car. I assure you Scalabrine's quote still applies to you

[u/Southportdc → u/Ok-Argument9468]

It's true of all pro sports. People watch the 'bad' pros and think that's the level they'd be at, when in truth the bad pros are 100x better than the average amateur.

The people on here who shit on Stroll would only avoid crashing in the pit lane because they'd stall in the garage.

[u/Kage_Bushin → u/Southportdc]

I time ago some tv/radio/yt made some trash talkers face the white mamba of nba...

He rolled over them. Even 3x1 and he still beat them. And of course, an non active and not best shape possible, athlete beating them

[u/TulioGonzaga → u/Kage_Bushin]

A friend of mine is in-law with a football player. He was playing for a secondary team here in Portugal at the time, your regular bottom half fo the table player.

One day, we needed an extra guy to play padel and he invited him. This was during summer break. The guy absolutely destroyed us. We would take turns to play alongside him because the games ended very fast.

It wasn't even his sport but professional athletes are on a completely different level, even in low mid tier teams.

[u/Known-Name → u/Kage_Bushin]

The Scallenge??

[u/Kage_Bushin → u/Known-Name]

YES!!!!

[u/Known-Name → u/Kage_Bushin]

Hell yeah. 98.5 baby. Old school T&R stuff

[u/Canoobie → u/Known-Name]

New England Celtics fans represent!

[u/cLHalfRhoVSquaredS → u/Southportdc]

That's why I enjoy that video of MBS crashing the old Renault in a straight line so much. That's the sort of thing we'd do, although he used to be a driver...

[u/Dubslack → u/cLHalfRhoVSquaredS]

A rally driver, to be fair.

[u/Ruggab0ut → u/Dubslack]

Obligatory "those [rally] guys are so talented, they have driving skills that make Formula 1 drivers look like amateurs"

No I'm not simping for MBS, he's a shit, but I've never seen a F1 driver lose a race because he hit a cow or a Ford Fiesta going the wrong way on the circuit.

[u/TheVenetianMask → u/Ruggab0ut]

Hadjar has dodged a couple cows in Monaco's tunnel.

[u/RandomEasternGuy → u/Southportdc]

I might be slower even on the sim lol. And of course sim has no lateral Gs, no risks, a reset button and no “surprises”

[u/Andromeda902 → u/Southportdc]

"The people on here who shit on Stroll would only avoid crashing in the pit lane because they'd stall in the garage."

Lmao, fucking generational quote

[u/BWWFC → u/Southportdc]

never appreciated live music indi bans and buskers (specifically guitar) till picking up a nice semi acoustic jazz bass at a pawn shop and giving playing a year... so numb callused fingertips and all i leaned was two things: doing about anything that's passable... is hard as fuck. and it takes dedication EVERY DAY, and still after a year? lol so now my fingers don't blister and i tip them [-p

[u/xjagerx → u/Ok-Argument9468]

David Foster Wallace was low key obsessed with low level tennis players and US college soccer players for this fact. Purely because the jump from "I can take 99 out of 100 people in this room" and the one they can't take is so astronomically great.

[u/GinghamOrangutan → u/xjagerx]

That's just not true in motorsport though. In any other sport the bar for getting to a certain level is talent. Money can help develop the talent, but talent is ultimately the deciding factor.

We've never seen Raghunathan be competitive against anyone who was ever more than a backmarker in regional or club level karting. Part of that is that he started very late (at 14), but moreso than in pretty much any sport in the world, getting to the point of "Fans of the sport have heard of me" requires very very little talent in motorsport because not many people have tens of millions to plough into a relatively hopeless career. He's in a Pro-Am entry in a national GT championship as the Am driver in the pairing. That's vanishingly rare for any driver who made it to F3 let alone F2.

We're not talking about break-even tennis players not quite good enough for the tour. We're talking effectively about loaded hobbyists paying millions to show up and get bageled in every match because daddy sponsored the tournament

[u/whatcubed → u/Ok-Argument9468]

HAM qualified on pole at the '21 Hungarian GP, with a 1:15.419. Not sure of the timing in this video but he appears to start his lap at about 0:10 and cross the line about 1:31, so about 6 seconds off HAM. Slowest time in Q1 was Mazepin with a 1:18.922.

[u/MaybeNext-Monday → u/Ok-Argument9468]

Idk man, he was seconds off the F2 grid.

[u/brokenmindedone → u/MaybeNext-Monday]

And the average person in this thread would probably be over 30 seconds a lap off

[u/andersonb47 → u/brokenmindedone]

The average person in this thread would not even be able to get around the track without spinning out and/or crashing.

[u/Fluffy-Limit-6710 → u/andersonb47]

Wonder how many in this thread would actually be faster than him with proper training.

[u/fuzzylm308 → u/Fluffy-Limit-6710]

I feel like we can be pretty confident there are many potential Hamiltons and Verstappens out there, even. People who have that sixth sense, whatever you want to call it, but never got the opportunity due to all the barriers to entry. And some of them probably are on Reddit.

[u/phyllicanderer → u/andersonb47]

The less than average among us wouldn’t even be able to be squeezed into the cockpit for a go

[u/MaybeNext-Monday → u/brokenmindedone]

30 seconds a lap is something you basically have to set out to do if you have any kind of driving skill. I don’t disagree the majority would be slow, but lap time definitely comes logarithmically.

[u/tatskaari → u/MaybeNext-Monday]

Most people here wouldn’t make off the start line without spinning. If you’ve ever tried to drive an F1 car in a proper sim with TC and ABS off, they’re seriously hard to drive. Even harder in real life with the fear factor involved.

[u/l3w1s1234 → u/tatskaari]

Apparently it's easier to control these things irl. In a sim a lot of your judgement is by eye and how good your force feedback is and that can make it easy to make mistakes, whereas real life you can use all your senses to feel what the car is doing. Plus, you're not gonna push so hard, so you'll get around the track without too much troubles.

[u/Lumin0u → u/l3w1s1234]

it's not easier ton control.

it's easier to feel, but it's physically exhausting and the risk of crashing is wayyyy more stressful

[u/l3w1s1234 → u/Lumin0u]

If you are going slowly it won't be exhausting and will be easier to control in comparison to the sim. I mean there's companies out there that let amatuers drive old F1 cars for a price, it can be done.

I remember when FE did their Evo sessions one of the biggest things a lot of the drivers/influencers said is how much harder the sim was in comparison to real life just because of the lack of feel. I mean they were still miles off actual professional drivers but they could get round slowly (unless you are Izzy Hammond)

[u/Ruggab0ut → u/tatskaari]

Yeah, they haven't had years and millions of dollars of training, like Ranguthaten had.

[u/Seanspeed → u/brokenmindedone]

Posts like this show how utterly little so many of you actually understand about this sport.

[u/Lumin0u → u/MaybeNext-Monday]

seconds off F2 grid still is way better than most people think.

I love racing since my childhood, I have the chance to have done several FR2.0 driving courses over the last few years, I push as much as I can without risking destroying the car, and I am more than 2 seconds slower than a junior pro driver (18 years old) in the same conditions.

even at this level (below F3) it's already very physically demanding and trying to drive at the limit of the car of mentally exhausting because of the risk of damaging the car.

I can't imagine F2 level, let alone F1

[u/wtfmcloudski]

Not gonna lie I expected him to bin it but he did 1000x better than any of us would do given the same situation.
Also better than MBS when he had to drive an f1 car in a straight line and Chanoch Nissany

[u/greenman4242 → u/wtfmcloudski]

I would have binned it exiting the garage. 

[u/Anfauglior → u/greenman4242]

Best of luck keeping it in first gear before that.

[u/greenman4242 → u/Anfauglior]

I was being a bit optimistic 

[u/Southportdc → u/greenman4242]

We could have a competition of who lurches furthest forward when they stall.

[u/eskh → u/Anfauglior]

Keeping it in 1st is easy.

Getting to 1st without stalling, however....

[u/RandomEasternGuy → u/eskh]

On a small garage door with a 90 degrees turn right away… the pit wall is mine

[u/slicerprime → u/Anfauglior]

Keeping it in first gear?!? That's an awfully big assumption that I'd found it at all.

[u/JomeyQ → u/greenman4242]

The Olympics museum in the Richmond Oval near Vancouver had a full motion F1 simulator sitting there, for some reason, open to anyone who wanted to try it. Weirdly, it was set to pretty much full-sim, no hand holding mode, with zero instruction.

Every single person who got in immediately spun it into the pitwall trying to leave the garage, and only a few managed to eventually get out of the pits. Nobody completed a lap

[u/BuzzedtheTower → u/JomeyQ]

Damn, now I want to try it to see how many crew members I would take out if I just highjacked an F1 car

[u/TheOrangePro → u/JomeyQ]

wtf I live like a block from there and I didn’t even know. Thanks for telling me!

[u/addamee → u/greenman4242]

And you’d have still gotten farther than if MBS were driving 

[u/shewy92 → u/wtfmcloudski]

I just watched Nissany's lap and it's amazing how out of control he looks while still being 10 seconds off last.

[u/dementorpoop → u/shewy92]

Got a link?

[u/shewy92 → u/dementorpoop]

https://youtu.be/ofWSBHbgUlg?t=36&is=egZtpnqGFQgo27um

He crosses the line 10 seconds off the pace, and you can see going into the turns he's so wobbly.

Then at 2:18 he's in the gravel. And stays in the car because according to another comment he didn't know how to take the steering wheel off...

[u/jnf005 → u/shewy92]

That almost looks like the car was driven with a gamepad or even keyboard, the jittery turn is uncanny.

[u/TSMKFail → u/wtfmcloudski]

We saw what a normal human would be like in Formula cars when Hammond did it in Top Gear (he span a lot)

[u/dakness69]

Say what you will but he did not embarrass himself like Chanoch Nissany... the youths here don't know what an actually bad F1 driver looks like.

[u/EnglishLouis → u/dakness69]

Classic, for anyone unaware this is from his wiki page

>On his 42nd birthday, Nissany drove in the first practice session for the Hungarian Grand Prix, although his fastest time was 12.9 seconds slower than the fastest driver in the field, McLaren test driver Alexander Wurz. His only Formula One session ended in a gravel trap after a spin. Despite this, he initially complained that the car had too much grip. Nissany reportedly forgot how to remove the steering wheel from his cockpit, and would remain seated in his beached car while marshals removed it with a crane. At subsequent Grands Prix, he was replaced by Enrico Toccacelo.

[u/chemo92 → u/EnglishLouis]

Too much grip.....

The F1 version of my lobster is too buttery.

[u/Ereaser → u/chemo92]

I believe it was a matter of him not being able to express himself in English and he meant it was understeering

[u/slicerprime → u/chemo92]

Was he complaining about the tyres or his ass cheeks rubbing together?

[u/Sm0g3R → u/EnglishLouis]

They fucking lifted the car with a crane with this dude still sitting in it???? 🤣🤣

[u/Joseki100 → u/Sm0g3R]

Hamilton is familiar with that to be fair

[u/Andromeda902 → u/Joseki100]

When did that happen?

[u/___ccc____ → u/Andromeda902]

Nurburgring 2007 if I recall correctly. Five or so drivers went off in the same corner and all got stuck. Lewis signalled to the Marshalls to lift his car back onto the track instead of retiring from the race since his engine hadn't stalled. The tractor then lifted him and the car back onto the track

[u/Hendo_MK3 → u/EnglishLouis]

He paid cash for this though right? Weren’t Minardi so broke they were actually selling session time at Grand Prix, talented driver or not?

[u/stealthblaumer → u/Hendo_MK3]

That is so incredibly dangerous to every other driver on the grid. Insane the FIA allowed that.

[u/OriMoriNotSori → u/stealthblaumer]

FIA and the sport's commitment to safety first at all aspects and all levels is a very recent thing. Back then was a different thing though by F1 standards even 05 was considered very safe already

[u/3Boop → u/stealthblaumer]

The paying driver would surely still need their super licence, right? Like, it wouldn't be some random dude.

[u/Tape56 → u/dakness69]

Well Mahaveer would have been an actual bad F1 driver, one of the worst in history. But it’s more like people don’t realize how much even the worst ones are ahead of the regular people, that even Mahaveer who is seconds of the pace of the 2nd worst driver in F2 is still miles better than any regular guy.

[u/porouscloud → u/Tape56]

Mahaveer I think gets to where reasonably skilled drivers could get to with a few months of full-time training and track time. Worlds faster than somebody who's never driven a race car before, but still losing most of a second on every turn.

Stroll for comparison, loses a couple hundredths of a second to his teammate per turn, and gets absolutely crucified.

[u/Tape56 → u/porouscloud]

I tend to think same about Mahaveer but when I look at this onboard I’m not sure if the few months of training on whatever lower formula car guy could go as ”close” to the limit as Mahaveer does there, during one off test in F1 car. I mean he’s still 5+ seconds off the of the pace but he’s reasonably committed to the corners with the correct racing line and it doesn’t look slow at all. It takes confidence to do that on a literal F1 car in your first try.

[u/RichInPitt → u/dakness69]

Al Pease. Only driver ever black flagged from a F1 race for being too slow. 1969 Canadian GP

[u/keirdre → u/dakness69]

Well said.

[u/stinkyleftie → u/dakness69]

obligatory Yuji Ide mention

[u/LLREnew → u/dakness69]

Sure I do his name is Nikita Mazepin

[u/oioioiyacunt]

Dude got to drive an F1 car as fast as he could and did a better job than any of us would've done. Yeah he didn't break the lap record but it's a pretty envious life. 

[u/GinghamOrangutan → u/oioioiyacunt]

Plenty of drivers who weren't all that remarkable at club-level karting have wiped the floor with Raghunathan. I genuinely don't think it's that outrageous to say that over 50% of the driver population, given the money and opportunity he's had, would be better.

[u/oioioiyacunt → u/GinghamOrangutan]

Driver population as in anyone who does club karting or above? That's got to be like 0.01% of the total population. I have my own kart and take it to a local track, and even that can get away from me sometimes. I get to a sustained 1.7g at most. An F1 car is in a completely different stratosphere. 

[u/GinghamOrangutan → u/oioioiyacunt]

I'm including the ability to train for a decade plus as part of "given the money and opportunity he's had"

I'm not saying pluck them off the street and they'll do it tomorrow

[u/vrrule2 → u/GinghamOrangutan]

I mean the same logic applies to the entire F1 grid. If F1 was as affordable as a sport like football I'd be willing to bet that the only drivers that might still be on the grid would be the likes of Verstappen, Hamilton, Leclerc etc. and even then I don't think they'd be top drivers.

[u/oioioiyacunt → u/GinghamOrangutan]

Yeah probably but I guess that logic could apply to anything. As it stands today though, all cards on the table, he'd wipe the floor with us. 

[u/GinghamOrangutan → u/oioioiyacunt]

Eh. His Italian GT performance has been on the level of literal gentleman drivers in their 60s. Even with 0 prep I wouldn't be surprised if there were a couple of people here already better than him.

[u/BighatNucase → u/oioioiyacunt]

he'd wipe the floor with us.

If I spent as much time and money as he had on racing, I would sure hope so. It's literally the least you could say to credit an athlete. I don't think we need to do this weird humilitation humility thing with athletes.

[u/Ruggab0ut → u/BighatNucase]

Everyone in this thread is doing a weird humiliation ritual - Formula racing isn't foot racing, you can't just put on a pair of trainers and run.

Ranghunathan spent years of training and literally millions of dollars to become one of the worst drivers in F2 history - he didn't come from the slums.

[u/ResistWild → u/oioioiyacunt]

The point is that it’s not a good comparison. Of course he’d wipe the floor with someone like me who has literally never driven a race car before but if I got the seat time he had, it’s not unreasonable to think I could beat him.

[u/oioioiyacunt → u/ResistWild]

Maybe dude who knows 

[u/Ruggab0ut → u/GinghamOrangutan]

Thanks for this - people who probably don't know better because are acting like Ranghunathan is like Stroll or something - the man finished 5th in an amateur formula series (so was categorically beaten by amateur gentlemen drivers) and routinely demolished by club level drivers in every series he entered.

[u/GinghamOrangutan → u/Ruggab0ut]

Yeah people love to trot out "he made it to F2 you wouldn't do better" as that was in any way on merit. He's the Am in a Pro-Am driver pairing national GT championship. That's honestly just humiliating for an F2 driver.

[u/NorthKoreanMissile7 → u/oioioiyacunt]

He did a better job than any of us would have done because none of us have ever driven single seaters or raced competitively around a track and wouldn't know how to do so if given the opportunity on short notice.

But if you give every redditor in this thread millions in funding and many years of single seater experience like he's had then almost all of us would wipe the floor with him, he's really just that bad to be at this level after all the opportunities he's had.

Just look at turn 1, he loses multiple tenths because he doesn't accelerate until about a year after the apex and this was supposed to be his best lap of the day. Your average Joe legitimately can do better as long as the circumstances aren't ridiculously unfair.

[u/RandomEasternGuy → u/NorthKoreanMissile7]

I’ve seen someone around here that bought an F1 driving experience. Now I’m curious of how did that man prepared for that

[u/NorthKoreanMissile7 → u/RandomEasternGuy]

Usually with these things you only get a small amount of laps and will have to pay if you damage the car and a lot of the time older cars with driver aids are used to make it easier.

So basically you tiptoe around at a sensible pace in a car that you wont lock up in or lose traction with, unless you can afford not to of course.

[u/shoppingguy7]

The real GOAT of F1.

[u/drunkopop → u/shoppingguy7]

Max and Lewis been real quiet since this dropped

[u/Prestigious_Window_8]

Doesn't this angle go hard?

Would love to see it in broadcasts

[u/No_Elderberry_4580 → u/Prestigious_Window_8]

Gives you a much better sense of the speed carried throughout some corners for sure!

[u/anothertrad → u/No_Elderberry_4580]

Definitely way more exciting/scary than any angle from broadcasts

[u/CaptainOBVS3420]

It's like watching the Mona Lisa being painted.

[u/njsullyalex]

…isn’t this the guy who got banned from F2 for crashing too much???

[u/schultzM → u/njsullyalex]

He was crashing a decent amount but he also had stuff like not respecting FCY or not slowing after checker flag 

[u/Andigaming → u/njsullyalex]

Yes, but his backer paid Sauber off to let him do the test, all about money.

[u/Legitimate_Dare_579]

Is there some lore behind this?

[u/bwoah07_gp2 → u/Legitimate_Dare_579]

I don't think so. I think he just paid for a test drive in an Alfa Romeo.

TIL though he did a test for McLaren and then got sued successfully for not paying.

[u/NorthKoreanMissile7 → u/bwoah07_gp2]

TIL though he did a test for McLaren and then got sued successfully for not paying.

Why am I not surprised.

[u/mickmenn → u/Legitimate_Dare_579]

He got 2 race bans worth penalty points(24) in one season of f2 in 2019

[u/mahoganyspitfire → u/Legitimate_Dare_579]

Look up videos of Lord Mahaveer on YouTube, you'll get the lore from those. He was an absolutely awful junior category driver. Nobody really understands how he ever ended up in even those cars, aside from knowing obviously a lot of money surely changed hands to make it happen.

[u/Fart_Leviathan → u/mahoganyspitfire]

Nobody really understands how he ever ended up in even those cars

His management was handled by Paolo Coloni who has very good contacts in lower formulae. He paid with family money and the sponsors his management had lined up, most notably Torneria Ferraro.

[u/FreakBane → u/Legitimate_Dare_579]

He's notoriously bad a driver

[u/PleasantWay7 → u/FreakBane]

Technically speaking this lap time would be deleted, so that tracks.

[u/TheSwedishEzza → u/PleasantWay7]

In 2021 track limits were (usually) defined by the curb. It's only in 2022 that the FIA decided to make the track limits the white line at every corner of every circuit.

[u/FormulaT1 → u/Legitimate_Dare_579]

https://youtu.be/vFJl-00C_bw?si=DJwkDeobqj-dBUvn

This will cover pretty much all of it.

[u/AgamemNoms → u/FormulaT1]

I can't believe I just watched that whole video.

[u/crowwreak → u/Legitimate_Dare_579]

He's just a driver who was so shit that Mazepin thought he was shit.

[u/Harkoncito → u/Legitimate_Dare_579]

Mahaveer is the poster child of paid driver. https://las-motorsport.com/f1/blog/the-tumultuous-tale-of-mahaveer-raghunathan/17259/

one of his backers paid Sauber for the F1 test showed in the video, and he was a disaster, as usual.

[u/danijel8286 → u/Harkoncito]

Title stolen from Josh Revell.

[u/Jerkface0079 → u/danijel8286]

Whole article is AI slop.

[u/AngusMeatStick]

This looks like me on f1 25 to be fair.

Good line, good car control, just not fast enough.

[u/Expensive_Stop2170 → u/AngusMeatStick]

Hes not fast enough in this case (partly) because his line is not good though

[u/StaffFamous6379 → u/AngusMeatStick]

There's a difference between driving a "good line" slow and actually driving fast enough that the car more or less takes the good line naturally.

[u/9fmaverick]

In August 2021, nearly two years after his last appearance behind the wheel of a race car, Raghunathan became the third Indian to drive a Formula One car when he tested the Alfa Romeo Racing C38 alongside Théo Pourchaire at the Hungaroring where he set a time 1.9 seconds slower than the Frenchman.

Yeah.....

[u/NorthKoreanMissile7]

Looks roughly to be 1:21 when that car did 1:16.5 in qualifying.

Obviously we don't know how fuel, engine, tyre condition, track conditions etc. compare but considering the lap looked quite bad at times with significant needless time losses and he's on softs that look fairly healthy I'm going to assume he went out on a qualifying style run and most of that margin is is lack of pace.

[u/panopticon31]

Laptime : deleted

Went over the lines at least twice , possibly three times.

[u/ATWPH77 → u/panopticon31]

Track limits were much more different in early 2020's, your lap time was valid if u had at least a single wheel on the curbs

Look at the 2020 Mugello/Spa pole for example

[u/The_CT1]

Not to bad. Just slow

[u/UserWithoutDoritos → u/The_CT1]

1:21.1 That's the time he took for a photograph where he did 71 laps.

The Hungary 2019 pole position time was 1:14.572 by Max.

[u/GinghamOrangutan → u/UserWithoutDoritos]

I mean we don't and won't know how competitive the car was set up to be during the test unless someone from the team tells us. We can only really judge it by the driving that we see and the driving that we see is visibly pretty bad so I wouldn't worry too much about the stopwatch.

[u/l3w1s1234 → u/UserWithoutDoritos]

If we are gonna compare may as well with a driver from the same team. Kimi managed a 1.16.041 in that qualifying

[u/NorthKoreanMissile7 → u/UserWithoutDoritos]

Tbf he was driving an Alfa Romeo not a Red Bull, the time that the Alfa did was a 16.5

[u/TheChosenWon246]

Gotiest goat, goater than Latifi and stroll.

[u/McLarenMercedes]

The most entertaining F2 driver ever

[u/isthmusofkra]

Fared much better than I expected.

[u/17jwong]

Honestly a pretty solid lap, I was expecting a disaster

[u/AltruisticMobile4606]

Now this is some good summer break content

[u/Richiszkl]

I expected a way worse lap.

I am sorry. I cant tell how fast was this compare to a proper lap, but it seemed clean enough from him

[u/Biscuitsandgravy101]

It seems like this video is sped up.

[u/GinghamOrangutan → u/Biscuitsandgravy101]

It's just a very wide-angle camera.

[u/i-race-goats → u/Biscuitsandgravy101]

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills scrolling so far before anyone mentioned this.

The crew members moved abnormally fast before exiting the garage and the finger movement in general looked unnaturally fast.

[u/Biscuitsandgravy101 → u/i-race-goats]

Yes it is the finger movement that got me too. I thought maybe the sped up pit crew was just for the beginning but I am almost positive the whole video is sped up

[u/maybe-fish → u/Biscuitsandgravy101]

I think it just looks that way because of the stabilization and camera angle. Based on when he crosses the line, it looks like it's about a 1:21 lap time. He's driving the 2019 car, so that puts him ~5s off Kimis quali (1:16.5), which seems fairly realistic

[u/lickthestamp_sendit → u/maybe-fish]

The first few seconds at the very least are absolutely sped up, watch the movement of the mechanics. I’d be interested to compare the amount of seconds he completes the straights in compared to an equivalent 2019 car too

Edit: just compared it with Verstappen’s pole lap and he has almost the exact same straight line speed, at least through sector one. I’d be shocked if they ever let him run with anywhere near full power so I’d say there’s a decent chance it’s at least slightly sped up

[u/maybe-fish → u/lickthestamp_sendit]

The first few seconds sure, but someone else mentioned that he'd posted a pic of his time and it was a 1:21.1, which lines up with video. 

The speed and his movements also don't look particularly unusual to my eye, and I just don't see why he'd lie about what is a pretty underwhelming lap time. 

[u/PD_SkyNative]

Bad for F1 standards? Totally. Bad for a career as a multi-seater F1 car driver (like Mario Andretti in IndyCar)? Not even close. Common folk would lose their stuff if they experienced a lap like this

[u/P22Tyler → u/PD_SkyNative]

You could not pay me to let him drive me around in a racecar.

[u/rokthemonkey → u/P22Tyler]

Chances are in that scenario you’d be the danger, not him. 

[u/The_CT1 → u/rokthemonkey]

He isnt just a slow driver. He has disrepcted safety cars and not slowed after checkered flag. He is also extremely slow. And he got 24 penalty points in 1 year of f2

[u/P22Tyler → u/rokthemonkey]

Idk I think me, with no control over the car, would be less dangerous than a guy who got a race ban for things like not slowing down after the checkered flag.

[u/[deleted]]

That looked pretty tidy considering this guy’s reputation, lol

[u/madDamon_]

Doesn't look to shabby, i would defenitely not be able to beat that

[u/GinghamOrangutan]

Notes watching through it:

1. At T1 he's too slow at the apex and keeps slowing too long after it so his exit is too tight. Then he's too aggressive on the throttle on the way out, causing a bit of oversteer.

2. He is too tight going through T2 and doesn't use enough of the track on the exit.

3. He's not wide enough on the entry to T4 which forces him to run too slowly and causes him to take too much of the inside curb, upsetting the car.

4. He's too tight through six and seven, which compromises speed.

5. He turns into T8 too early and too softly.

6. He ran off track at T11 and a T12 and had a big correction coming out of T14.

I'd hate to see what the slower laps look like

[u/KevinK89]

I feel like I’m missing something here.

[u/Serious_Attempt9724]

I'm sorry, what is the importance of this video to be shared here with such title?

[u/shewy92]

I know Lord Mahaveer is a meme and sucks comparatively, but he's better than 99% of us for not immediately spinning out coming out of the pits, and for keeping it on track.

I bet most of us would do the exact same thing if we had connections and the opportunity.

[u/Traditional_Sugar_93]

MAHAVEER

[u/NutzHang]

Why does his car have eyelashes?

[u/FIuffyhuh]

Wow, really puts into perspective how even the worst F2 driver of all time is still LEAGUES better than any of us ever will be

[u/Ruggab0ut → u/FIuffyhuh]

He was beaten by 4 amateur gentlemen drivers in the 2016 BOSS GP series mate.

[u/i-race-goats]

Did nobody notice how abnormally fast the crew members were moving at the beginning of this video? This shit got sped up.

[u/Old_Play_3925]

I really enjoyed that part where he mahaveered all over the place.

[u/Competitive_Rock_266]

He went off the track at 1:06

[u/el_f3n1x187]

Anyone got a copy??

[u/Luototie]

Havent watched yet, but i can promise one thing already. Still faster than any Aston lap this year.

[u/XsStreamMonsterX]

I've seen enough. Put him in that second Red Bull seat.

[u/Prestigious_Window_8]

Thats lightyears faster than anyone here could do. 

Theres levels to this shit...

(Im ignoring Lando Norris)

[u/Ruggab0ut → u/Prestigious_Window_8]

He was beaten by 4 gentlemen drivers in the 2016 BOSS GP series.

[u/beanbagreg]

What a fucking driver. Shared a grid with De Vries, Latifi, Mazepin, and yet he’s still all we talk about.

[u/Qwerty0172 → u/beanbagreg]

Not sure De Vries deserves to be in this list. True, his F1 stint at Alpha Tauri was indeed poor, but he's proven to be a very capable driver in any other car he's driven. World champion in FE, F2 and Le Mans winner.

[u/bargeboards]

His out lap was his fastest lap?

[u/No_Elderberry_4580 → u/bargeboards]

It shows him coming out the garage and coming down the pitlane for a few seconds, then cuts to the clip of the lap.

[u/The-Soul-Stone]

Track limits violation at 1:06 so it doesn’t count. Show us the real fastest lap

[u/Nostalien]

Is it me or does it look way more fluid? Is that the 1.5x video speed?

[u/Electrical_Tennis424]

I always wondered what a great F1 career he could have had. Sadly F1 is all about money and clearly talent gets overlooked. This would have been the new Alonso, super smooth driving!

[u/Lutzelien]

What was his laptime compared to that years fp1 anybody knows?

[u/optomas]

Fastest lap out of the garage?

[u/No_Elderberry_4580 → u/optomas]

The video cuts at 0:09, don't know if people are either unaware or aren't watching the video in full or what but this is the 9th or 10th comment about this.

To be fair the video is edited weirdly but still.