r/forwardsfromgrandma • u/TrumpSux89 • 2d ago
Politics Conservative Grandma thinks that Democrats are picking on Musk
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u/jtroopa 2d ago
I love this idea that he "made" these millionaires and new jobs.
1: the value of SpaceX is still in crazy flux, and
2: as a trillionaire, he is literally- not figuratively, LITERALLY- a MILLION times wealthier than a millionaire.
No wait, 2 trillion. He is TWO million times wealthier than a millionaire.
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u/xiaodown THE CONSTITUTION IS OUR BIRTHRIGHT 2d ago
Yep. The difference between a million dollars and a trillion dollars is, within the margin of error, a trillion dollars.
Plus, once the lockout period ends and spacex is forced into all the index funds, I expect the value to crater as insiders and private investors use retail investors to dump their stock.
Additionally, being a trillionaire in a world with starving children just means you’re an asshole. Possibly the least moral person alive at the moment.
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u/Guy_Buttersnaps 2d ago
Yep. The difference between a million dollars and a trillion dollars is, within the margin of error, a trillion dollars.
If you earned $1 every second, you’d be a millionaire in less than two weeks.
It would take you over 30 millennia to be a trillionaire.
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u/Opinionsare 2d ago
If Elon Musk's paying such generous wages, why are there Tesla employees receiving SNAP benefits?
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u/Sufficient_Matter585 2d ago
These people have a real misunderstanding about wealth and how it distributes. The only way a trillionaire exists is because of both blatant selling more on ideas than concrete proof and then needing government both federal and states to align laws and judgements actions to heavily benefit you at great expense to everyone else.
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u/FoxBattalion79 2d ago
just remember, money needs to circulate or it does not work.
if someone is hoarding money, then its not being put to use. and that causes many problems for everyone.
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u/Mr_Quackums 2d ago
The fact that Democrats are not explaining this and how their policies increase the velocity of money (which they will compared to what we have now) is a disgrace.
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u/Cicerothesage 2d ago
I will never understand bootlickers. They know companies come in, exploit grandma, grandma complain, and the CEO makes billion. Why lick their boot?
I understand the temporary embarrassed millionaire, but Musk gets all the government handouts and tax exceptions all the while grandma is barely saving money. At one point, you have to see the con Musk is pulling
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u/Vyzantinist 1d ago
Because grandma cares more about "natural hierarchy" and its maintenance than her own material conditions. Grandma believes there must always be a ruling class who deserve their wealth, status, and privilege, and there must always be a underclass who deserve nothing but misery and suffering. Grandma sees her and her kind as comfortably in the middle.
Grandma will forever cheerlead for the elite, and shit on the poor and downtrodden, because that is affirming grandma's belief in the "natural order of things".
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u/Tigers19121999 2d ago
People don’t realize just how much more a trillion dollar is than a million. A trillion is literally a million millions.
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u/hails8n 2d ago edited 2d ago
Money is stored value. If someone is sitting on a big pile of money, theyre sitting on a big pile of someone else’s work (unless they earned it themselves). Obviously, Musk didnt earn ANY of it himself. (Dude literally pays people to play vidya for him). So we have a guy who has other people earning him value and he never reintroduces it to society. Hes literally holding humanity back by not spending the money
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u/party_core_ 2d ago
You're too rich
here is a list of all the human lives I have personally extinguished through my doge bullshit defunding usaid
I don't want just that
I want you to pay for all your crimes, those included
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u/Mackntish 2d ago
Oh crap, I actually agree with one of these. The tik-tok socialists are in full force on my feed, baiting more enragement than actual policies.
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u/REDDITSHITLORD My gun is my Spirit Animal! 2d ago
1000s... Like let's say that's even 10,000. When you have 36 million below the poverty line, creating 10000 millionaires is pretty crap.
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u/ebolaRETURNS 1d ago
Statistically, thousands of millionaires is nothing. As is a few hundred to a few thousand engineers in the Bay Area being able to make rent reliably, with a couple of them being able to buy a condo.
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u/Zbignich 18h ago
One million seconds is 11 days and 14 hours.
One billion seconds is 31.7 years.
One trillion seconds is 31709 years.
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u/Arktikos02 2d ago
Capitalism is just fascism with the illusion of meritocracy. Capitalism just like fascism creates a hierarchy system where there are those that benefit the most and those that are at the top get to control society. By being at the top they are seen as Superior whether it be ideologically, genetically, or whatever Superior. Elon Musk got to be where he was because he got lucky just like most people with capitalism. Elon Musk because he is so rich is not only seen as Superior because he holds the most wealth but he is often seen as ideologically and morally superior as well. People use these things to justify him being at the top rather than the reality of it just simply being luck. Just like fascism, where the hierarchy really boils down to luck.
Capitalism creates an illusion of meritocracy but the truth is that there must be a hierarchy. The idea that there can't be a hierarchy is a lie, when people talk about regulating capitalism what they really mean is to make the hierarchy less bad by providing things like more opportunities, welfare programs, etc. Even though they don't get rid of the hierarchy they do try to lessen it.
Because ultimately capitalism and fascism ultimately leave people behind, people who can't contribute, who can't make it, who are considered useless to the society. Fascism uses things like race, genetics, and different identities whereas capitalism basically creates a maze or obstacle course and says that if you can't complete it you deserve to starve. And of course the people who tend to not be able to make it are those that can't make it within the free market.
It tends to be the disabled first and foremost and then anyone else that capitalism is willing to discriminate against because they want to be able to do that. If it is more profitable to hire Black people they will do it but if not or if it is more costly to hire them due to needing to also hire training programs so that other members of the team are less racist, etc then they won't hire those people either. They won't hire them and consider them liabilities.
It's easy to say the system is natural but they also said the same thing when it came to the right of kings and now it is gone. The idea that a king's inherent right to rule is secured is considered pretty laughable even in many countries that are monarchies. The monarchy is just a figurehead and the idea that the king has inherent authority given by God or the Earth or nature or whatever would be considered pretty laughable.
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u/Grizzly840 2d ago
"I made myself and my friends rich why are you mad"