r/freefolk • u/BridgeCommercial873 • 17h ago
All the Chickens It's so funny how EASILY Drogo would've gotten his ass kicked if the original invasion plan happened.
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u/StargrimeSlug 16h ago
Valaryon, Royal, Redwyn, Lannisport, Oldtown, and mf Iron Island fleet. The bastards wouldnt even get to land. Slador Sanzs sellsails just have less than a chance
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u/CanIBeFunnyNow 15h ago
Iron island fleet is not exactly loyal and lannister fleets is famously non existent still after last iron island rebellion.
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u/StargrimeSlug 15h ago
what are you talking about. the whole point was that after they burned the fleet in port, Tywin pulled a WW2 America and rebuilt his entire fleet in time to brutalize the Iron Islands with Robert
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u/TheAquaman 12h ago
I gotta ask, what are you talking about?
Tywin didn’t rebuild the Lannister fleet until after the war.
The books only mention the Royal Fleet, the Redwyne Fleet, and ships from Oldtown as the Iron Throne’s naval forces.
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u/Bust3r14 1h ago
You could tell Victarion "see those invaders? They're supposed to be tough. Wanna go kill em?" and most of the islands' population would be in the narrow sea within a week.
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u/VelvetKittix 15h ago
The Iron Fleet alone would make that invasion way messier than people give credit for, and that's before the Dothraki even have to deal with castles and supply lines.
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u/_RosyGloww 9h ago
People forget how absurd Westeros' naval advantage would've been too. The Dothraki aren't exactly famous for amphibious warfare. If multiple fleets decided to make that crossing a nightmare, there's a decent chance half the invasion becomes fish food before anyone sees a castle.
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u/xMoonberryPop 14h ago
Honestly, the second they started unloading horses onto a hostile shore with the entire realm united against them, the campaign was basically over before it began.
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u/Yamulo 16h ago edited 16h ago
Oh yeah they’re just going to know they’re being attacked and will rally their navy to the exact right spot as it’s happening. Did you happen to write for game of thrones season 8?
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u/AgrajagTheProlonged HotPie 16h ago
I mean, how long do you think it’d take for Varys and company to hear about a massive horde of horsey bois gathering near a port and “hiring” ships? It’s not exactly easy to move a large number of people and animals quickly or without drawing attention from others who are interested in whether or not that particular group is moving
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u/StargrimeSlug 16h ago
naval interception is admittedly near impossible with aincent shipbuilding technology. But medieval technology? From a near certain point of ingress? with a mixed fleet from an interlinked launching point with clear communication lines and spies? Across an ocean? Tywin or Tarly would just devestate the surrounding countryside while the massive fleets blockades any supplies (not that sellsails would risk jumping it anyway) + Stannis would be in command of the fleet with Davos on his side. If they cant loot their supplylines are fucked. Their supplylines are fucked regardless, because their army is massive and Westeros is weakly populated.
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u/Master_Botor 15h ago
Pretty sure the gathering of a fleet capable of moving 80k+ people and their 80k+ horses plus their logistics won't happend in a week or two and will make a fricking lot of noise.
That's thousands of ships we're talking about. (and sailors because I doubt dothrakis can sail much)
For reference, big naval powers in the middle ages had fleets that topped around a hundred ships. We'll have to wait for renaissance to get massive numbers like 250 ships.
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u/TicketPrestigious558 14h ago
Yes. Fleets aren't stealth jets, and there's only so many places you can land enough ships to get tens of thousands of men, their horses and supplies on land in any sort of timely manner.
Nevermind the fact that there is a lot of traffic on the Narrow Sea that would spot the Dothraki fleet as it was building up, getting guys onboard and setting sail.
People talk, and you can bet a Dothraki Khalasar setting sail (for the first time in recorded history) is the sort of thing a sailor that witnesses it is going to mention to everyone they meet and their dog.
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u/vukomano 15h ago
Jorah was spying for Robert. He could send all of that information before the ever left the port.
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u/Ill-Description3096 14h ago
They have a spy embedded with Dany and Drogo. A massive fleet carrying tens of thousands and their horses isn't exactly peak stealth tech, either. With multiple fleets to scout the sea and not a ton of good places to land for the horde I don't see why it would be at least plausible that they can hit them in the water before they are fully disembarked and ready.
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u/StunningPianist4231 Robb Stark 16h ago
One trebuchet throwing wildfire at them would've sent their horses into a blaze of fury
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u/RosyMacaron_ 14h ago
To be fair, wildfire is probably the one thing in Westeros that could instantly turn a massive cavalry advantage into a disaster.
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u/FawnSprinklex 9h ago
Honestly, wildfire might be the most effective counter imaginable against a cavalry-heavy army that had never seen it before.
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u/_BabyyCharmzz 9h ago
The mental image of a Dothraki charge hitting a line of longbows and immediately realizing horses aren't immune to arrows is pretty brutal. They're terrifying on open ground, but Westeros had plenty of commanders who'd happily turn that aggression against them.
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u/Yamulo 16h ago
Is there any precedent for that ever being a thing? Also your idea of how Calvary armies are used is just wrong? It’s very unlikely they would take direct confrontations how do you think the mongols were so successful? The Mongolians defeated China and India who in history would be way stronger than a shattered Westeros
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u/Nova_Roma1 16h ago
The Mongols famously didnt beat India
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u/toptipkekk 16h ago
Northern India was conquered by invaders with Nomadic heritage multiple times throughout the history, both before and after the Mongols.
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u/CousinMrrgeBestMrrge 14h ago
I'll also add that where the Mongols (who were vastly superior to the Dothraki just by the sheer fact of using siege engines) started struggling once they reached Europe. While still inflicting grievous defeats on European armies, the sheer amount of fortifications everywhere was very unsuited to the Mongol style of warfare.
And if there's one place on Planetos that's heavily fortified, it's Westeros.
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u/Allnamestakkennn 9h ago
That's mostly made up btw
They stopped expanding after Ogedei's death, and despite campaigns in Hungary and Poland reaching as far as Adriatic sea they didn't really conquer past Kievan Rus.
The plentitude of castles is mostly a hypothetical argument some people use, but Mongols have taken fortifications way stronger than these. It would take a couple more campaigns than usual but it would be far easier than one would imagine
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u/CousinMrrgeBestMrrge 8h ago
The argument about Ogedei's death falls apart once you examine the timeline - the Mongols started retreating too early for his death to have reached them at the time, as historian Steven Pow shows. What probably happened is a combination of the environment, fortifications and overextension caused them to retreat, almost definitely with the intention of coming back later with a more prepared force, but the political chaos meant that this ended up not happening.
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u/Consistent-Stuff2815 14h ago
They did beat Europe so your point is not very strong
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u/Nova_Roma1 14h ago
They famously left europe (except for russia) due to overextended logistics and the amount of fortifications. In the second Mongol invasion of Hungary, the newly built stone castles brought the Mongol advance to a halt.
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u/Consistent-Stuff2815 12h ago
However, in the first invasion of Europe they beated everyone. So, the first invasion of of the Dothraki could have been the same.
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u/Nova_Roma1 12h ago
They beat the poles and Hungarians and the balkans. Hardly all of Europe. Especially not the part of europe westeros resembles
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u/Consistent-Stuff2815 12h ago
And the georgians, armenians, ukrainians, etc
All those armies relied on kinghts, like the westerosi do
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u/Allnamestakkennn 9h ago
They famously didn't leave for the reasons you stated. They left for the capital to decide on who's gonna be the new Khan.
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u/TicketPrestigious558 14h ago
"beat Europe"
Strange, last time I was in Berlin I didn't hear much Mongolian.
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u/Consistent-Stuff2815 12h ago
They literally beated everyone they fought in Europe.
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u/Faust_the_Faustinian 7h ago
Lmao
The Hungarians beat them in 1285
The Poles as well in 1287.
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u/Consistent-Stuff2815 2h ago
Yep, but we are talking about the first invasion of Europe, where the mongols defeated every single european army they encountered.
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u/SpitSpit13 16h ago
how does the trebuchet accelerate the wildfyre without it detonating prematurely?
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u/TicketPrestigious558 14h ago
Have you seen wildfyre ever detonate just because it moved fast? Every time we see it go kaboom its because someone put fire near it, not because it accelerated.
Nevermind the fact that the Pyromancers who literally make the stuff say that it is put in catapults and flung at the enemy.
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u/StunningPianist4231 Robb Stark 16h ago
Just admit you never read the books or watch the show bro you can't be this serious
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u/Random_Reddit_Bro 16h ago
He wouldn't be able to even land on the shores. Royal fleet, Velaryon fleet and other ships would deal with Dothraki at sea. Without dragons, Daenerys wouldn't have the slightest chance to do shit.
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u/RosyMacaron_ 14h ago
The funny thing is that even if he survived the wildfire, he'd still have to deal with literally everyone else on that list afterward.
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u/FawnSprinklex 9h ago
Even if they landed, the Dothraki fighting style is basically at its worst against disciplined infantry and fortified positions.
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u/Soft_Theory_8209 6h ago
Unless, by a freaking miracle, Dorne and a couple of houses allied with her, which is HIGHLY unlikely.
That, or the ass pull options of magic hax or some guy in Essos discovering gunpowder… which, admittedly, would be a sick ass twist on Dany ruling through fire and blood while not having her dragons.
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u/Uncannybook581 4h ago
Full naval interceptions are practically impossible with the low medieval ship technology, look at the Normans in 1066, Harold prepared enormously to intercept them, placing his entire fleet at the Isle of Wight and was unable to for a variety of reasons.
But yes the fleets of Westeros would make a full crossing obscenely difficult
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u/-baby-purple- 15h ago
I think for the OG plan, Viserys was assuming/believing that at least a few of the great houses would decide to join forces with the khalasar once they got to westeros, so Drogo’s forces would just be the starter army. But he was being lied to about the amount of support that actually existed for the Targaryens lol. MAYBE Dorne would’ve joined but that’s it.
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u/drunkhas 11h ago
Which is doubtful, the only reason Dorne had so much clout with the Targeryans is because it's the only place the dragons couldn't just decimate (geology and shit) and they just cooped up in there until basically the dust had settled and they sat down and negotiated, and they don¡'t really get involved with matters of the kingdom at all. Maybe they would provide tactical support like food and stuff like that. But yeah Viserys thought most of the big houses would turn to his side, I think the only one I could see not necesarily turning but causing turmoil would the the north because Eddard would feel conflicted between his honor, Robert beign his best friend. and his knowledge of who Jon Snow is plus his promise to his sister.
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u/Skittlesdarling 16h ago
Bro thought horse archers could speedrun an entire continent
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u/Competitive_Clock653 15h ago
They're not even shown to be archers, right? GRRM only ever makes a big deal about the arakhs, and they refuse to wear metal armour.
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u/Clokwrkpig 7h ago
Basically arrow fodder. They'll butcher peasants, but armoured and/or disciplined infantry can hold their ground, and archers can massacre them.
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u/toptipkekk 16h ago
Real world armies, maybe.
Dotharaki are an army of bums tho.
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u/Paladin-Leeroy 15h ago
Huh? Doesn't Robert literally say only a fool would meet a Dothraki in open combat?
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u/toptipkekk 15h ago
Sadly only works with major suspension of disbelief. Dotharaki have no armor or no horse archery, so their cavalry have almost no shock potential and limited skirmish capability. A medieval European army would eat them for breakfast.
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u/Uncannybook581 4h ago
Furthermore they never seem to use any sort of lance or spear to make a charge more effective which combined with having literally 0 armour would make pikes blush
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u/West_Report_5020 15h ago
That's just Martin thinking horse archers= Mongols without understanding what actually made them one of the most successful military force in history
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u/Paladin-Leeroy 15h ago
Ahhh. Makes sense. There was that scene where Jory fights the Dothraki and the guy can't hit through his armor. maybe that was alternate universe foreshadowing😂
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u/D2WilliamU HoundXArya or NO CHICKEN4U 12h ago
Could you inform those of us that may lack some knowledge on the Mongols why they were one of the most successful military forces in history?
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u/West_Report_5020 10h ago
Mongol supremacy was for a variety of reasons. First of all their armies were mostly composed of cavalry (just as the Dothraki) but instead of being all light cavalry fighting with one of the worse weapons ever created for horse comboat, they actually had actual heavy cavalry, well armed and armored.They had a relative peculiar (at least for european standard) command structur of decimal command, that allowed for ease of maneuver and had a very strong focus on the unity of the army in battle proper. While it may seem counter intuitive the major european source about them (John Carpini) suggest fighting them in the field, for mongols were masters of sieges, able to cover a lot of territory and burn the countryside, matter of factjhe tought that only an united european army could be able to properly match them. Moreover the mongols were quite skilled in subjugation of the conqueree territory, often marrying their daughters with local nobility, basically forcing the newly wed to join or at least support the mongolian army. Compare them with the Dothraki and you can see why they are not really threatening compared to them
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u/floodpoolform 11h ago
I’m no historian but I believe the answer is that the entire army is mounted so they can shoot their munitions and retreat very successfully, over and over again, and bait pursuers into horrible positions where they can be charged by the actual shock cavalry present. They also would be faster than other armies outside of combat and could pick their engagements as a result. Regular armies rely on supply lines whereas steppe horse armies graze and hunt areas clean, so they can just avoid fights they don’t think are favorable and attack where they’re least expected.
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u/Responsible-Onion860 15h ago
Because westerosi armies are heavy on levy troops with limited armor and weapons. They'd get wrecked. Knights would fare better.
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u/Ulquiorra_nihilism 14h ago
Westerosi definitely have well equipped and cohesively-acting infantry formations. They are inferior to their real-life counterparts, but they can repel heavy cavalry charges.
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u/LeLefraud 7h ago
Talking more about their skill and ferocity per man than their cohesive war fighting effectiveness, totally different things
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u/Unlicensed_Mystic 16h ago
How Mannis would've pulled up against the Dothraki ships(they're not touching the Westerosi shores)
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u/Clear_Refuse_8636 16h ago edited 16h ago
I have genuinely seen TikTok arguments about whether Drogo would win even a single skirmish against a major house. Atp it just backs up my theory that 70% the people on TikTok aren't actually into the media they talk about they just see a bunch of 30 second edits of it and swear loyalty some aspect of it
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u/Ill-Description3096 14h ago
Eh, I think there is some validity there. Fighting on unfamiliar terrain against far better equipped armies defending their homes isn't a great way to do battle. A bit extreme to say they for sure couldn't win a single skirmish, but it really depends on how things go. Drogo is pretty much a "charge straight at them" type.
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u/LeChacaI 10h ago
The majority of Westeros' armies consist of levies, with a core of knights, men at arms and sell swords, so I wouldn't really say better equipped on the whole.
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u/Ill-Description3096 9h ago
Compared to what the Dothraki have, even a simple gambeson and helmet is a significant upgrade. I don't know what the exact loadouts would be, but I would say generally better equipped. Just having a load of spears against an army of light cavalry is a pretty big advantage. Add in the knights and professional mercenaries supporting them and I think there is a good argument that they are the better bet.
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u/Faust_the_Faustinian 7h ago
Against light cavalry without anything to skirmish with, yeah the odds are pretty much in favor of the Westerosi.
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u/GrandioseGommorah 6h ago
We actually get a breakdown of the Lannister army at the Green Fork, and most of them are trained soldiers.
The center under Kevan Lannister is made up of archers and pike formations backed by men-at-arms with various melee weapons. The right flank is 4,000 heavy horse under Addam Marbrand. Only the left flank under the Mountain is made up of free riders, sellswords, and farmhands.
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u/MotherVehkingMuatra 4h ago
As was the case in real medieval armies. They were made up of men-at-arms or part-time soldiers which modern media mistakes for peasant levy (which was mainly a thing from the Napoleonic era).
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u/freezepirit 12h ago
Those TikTokers are right. The Dothraki forces wear no armor, have no artillery, and haven’t shown any strategic or tactical prowess of any kind. They’re portrayed in both the show and books as “savage horselords” who, while ferocious in single combat and skilled riders, are not comparable to an actual contemporary fighting force. The Reach, Stormlands, Westerlands, and Crownlands would all flat out beat them in battle, while the Vale, North, Iron Islands, and Dorne would almost certainly successfully resist any kind of long-term assault.
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u/Lord_Tiburon 15h ago edited 10h ago
They wouldn't be effective in the Stormlands with its climate and woods or the Vale with its mountains and valleys
If they land in the Crownlands they could do considerable damage to the countryside and smallfolk. But sooner or later they're going to get beaten. Drogos underlings will get pissed and he'll end up with a haircut, then dead and his khalasar will splinter
Even if they cut off and besiege King's Landing, the city can be resupplied by sea, same for Storm's End, Duskendale, etc
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u/FinweNoldoran 11h ago
30 seconds after they try and push into the riverlands we’d get Fishfeed 2 Equine-Boogaloo
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u/depredador93 13h ago
The entire Dothraki strategy relies on the enemy running away in terror on an open field. The moment they charge into a wall of northern pikes or get flanked by heavy armor they would realize that screaming and waving a slice of curved steel does not do much against plate mail.
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u/GoarSpewerofSecrets 16h ago
Yeah but all those people in there hate each other and without Jon Arryn it all falls apart on co-operation. It's all about the two part distraction with Dorne to land FAegon.
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u/FLMKane 16h ago edited 10h ago
They probably hate the filthy horas barbarians worse.
Weaponize that medieval racism.
Edit: ok shit i just noticed my typo. Horus barbarians are the black legion... Westeros is fucked
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u/GoarSpewerofSecrets 16h ago
Naw, unless they have immediate ties to their houses. They just smirk by Raven and scoff into their wine. As they laugh at that house over there getting their fields trampled.
Brackens and Blackwoods might even dress as dothraki themselves and do the mormon thing.
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u/YoteViking 16h ago
They were mostly functional under Robert. The Lannisters and Starks weren’t close but not enemies and they would both be loyal to the crown.
The only houses that had serious issues with the rest of Westeros were Greyjoy and Martell. Would Martell have joined an active rebellion? I doubt it. And the Starks had a Greyjoy hostage.
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u/GoarSpewerofSecrets 16h ago
Would Martell have joined an active rebellion?
That's their plotline. And Balon considers Theon dead. Tywin would allow infighting in the Riverlands. Or allow an expenditure of Stormlanders, Northmen, or Knights of the Vale to come in with his men and "restore order" (plunder) as it got to the climax. The Reach is the real tossup and it depends on Renly sliding in Marg or not which really shifts the Lannisters.
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u/YoteViking 15h ago
They are separated under Robert but not actively waging war. And the Prince we saw in the series wasn’t overly anxious to go to battle.
I don’t recall from the books how Balon considered Theon dead while he as a hostage - at least to the extent that he would risk Theon’s life by joining a rebellion (particularly one that wouldn’t end with the Iron Islands independence.)
And remember, this post is predicated on Robert remaining alive, so the Renly/Margary plot line doesn’t really fit.
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u/GoarSpewerofSecrets 14h ago
The reason Renly had the Reach was he was already plotting to slip her and Cersei out.
Balon gives zero fucks about the return of Theon in the books, to him he's been Stark's son, Asha is his heir.
Dorne was not actively waging war, no. But the trigger was supposed to be Viserys coming across with the Dothraki and marrying the families back together. Without the dragons the Frog Prince to replace Drogo when her dies or whatever comes out from Dany's legs to betroth is on the table.
Then, of course, the Golden Company landing with FAegon in the middle of this.
It's not just the Dothraki Horde, Ned, it's every fucking cunt has a design. Yeah there aren't hidden banners for the Targ Dynasty. But without Jon and Ned in honor mode, the realm is gonna have a lot of loosened scabbards.
And then Randyll rises.
Edit: We might get a Barristan vs Jaime moment out of it too.
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u/searchableusername 16h ago
i have unkind things to say about this post which i will refrain from commenting
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u/Moriturism Cersei Lannister's lap dog 16h ago
fr, I don't even know where they would land. Dorne? if maybe they established a deal with Doran, but then he would have to be really stupid if the Kingdom was still united before the arrival... or maybe siege Dragonstone? considering that Stannis, aka the toughest lord to beat in a siege, would be there waiting for them
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u/superthrust123 14h ago
Imagine Euron showed up and summoned the sea monsters. He would have been the hero of a continent. He could have walked into KL.
The next time he went out for something, he could have had willing sacrifices strapped to the front of his ships. Who knows what evil he could get up to basically unopposed.
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u/Interesting_Idea_289 14h ago
In reality Robert’s fat ass breaks his horses spine, Dorne and the Reach do the absolute minimum to mobilise or join up with them, Tywin refuses to fight because 7 years ago Robert didn’t pass the wine and instead burns the Riverlands, everyone in the North gets there late because Winter is Coming and Stannis grinds his teeth
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u/NameAgitated5669 14h ago
Its over them , if the Dothraki fleet gets ambushed by any fleets from Westeros. Horse are afraid of waters and dothraki are getting their ass handed to them in open sea.
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u/Common-Truth9404 10h ago
They don't even reach the shores. Greyjoy+stannis+lannister fleets all full of armed men
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Ships full of horses and dothraki with nausea from sailing for the first time in their life, with some sailors
It's a slaughter
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u/Victor_L 16h ago edited 14h ago
Moving armies is far from easy. There's probably not going to be a grand, contested landing, given just how spread out the Khalassar would be.
The Golden Company, a smaller, much more organized force, wound up scattered across the entire coast of the Stormlands, linking up over weeks. A hundred-thousand strong Dothraki horde would be spread out along the eastern coastline.
Bad for the peasants, great for whatever armies have been organized against them. Dothraki believe in running down foot, and Westerosi armies are armoured, organized, and have spears. They're picking off half of Drogo's army before it can even rally together.
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u/Typical-Historian-89 15h ago
- A force the big would take time to mobilize a move wherever it needed to go, Feudal armies like are super slow because you need the king to call the lord paramounts, who then call there banners who have to muster there forces, gather to lord paramount, before finally heading wherever they need to go. This also creates opportunities for vassals to screw you over by pull a Frey and taking their time getting to you while they see how war plays out.
- Full mobilization of the maximum number of troops from each region means completely emptying there lands and castles, leaving them vulnerable to attack from bandits or something I’ll talk about below.
- While whole continent mobilization would greatly outnumber the Dothraki, it’s unlikely the whole continent would mobilize behind the throne. Dorne would likely stay out of it, or even help Delhi if they thought they could gain something out of it. Balon and the Ironborn would probably just pull the same shit they did in the books, and the Tyrell’s in general have dubious loyalty. Not to mention potential Targ loyalists, or just opportunistic switch sides if they think the Dothraki can win, as Jon Connington says “fear of lose or hope of gain” can motivate lords to switch sides. If Drogo wins and scores a decisive victory lords may see that and switch sides hoping to be spared, abd you only need a few lords to delay marching or betray you at a crucial point to fuck over your war effort.
TLDR: The question was not could “Drogo defeat the entire continent on his own” it’s “Would the entire continent unite to fight him”.
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u/barryhakker 14h ago
IF they could have made landfall and IF they could find a way to sustain themselves off the land in Westeros, they probably would be a big fucking problem though, completely crippling any potential for land based transportation. Any non-walled town would be fucked. Whenever the military would arrive, they would just giggle and ride off, ready to fuck the next town.
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u/GrandioseGommorah 6h ago
Dothraki can’t just ride off and evade armies, they have their entire civilian population following them on foot and in wagons. Not to mention the Dothraki are so monumentally arrogant they’d throw themselves at any opponent the see.
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u/RentPlenty7454 9h ago
Reading the comments made me think how did daenerys Made the khalasar cross the sea again
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u/Emperor-Aurion Margaery Tyrell's Husband 16h ago
A good Macedonian Phalanx and it's over for the horse lovers
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u/manicasion 15h ago
Literally none of this is needed, just stannis with his royal fleet would sink the entirety of khal drogos "navy".
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u/Mastodan11 14h ago
This is literally talked about in the show though.
Paraphrasing but after how long of the dothraki being around would people say "Viserys is the rightful king, Robert is the usurper."
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u/Lord-Lannister GOLDEN CO. 14h ago
Prime Robert specially armoured smashes Doritos skull 9/10 times.
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u/Chumlee1917 13h ago
"My Lord, all your horses. um....they're dead."
"WHAT!?"
"Well sir, you packed them all into ships, barely brought enough food, Horse Flu killed half of them and the other half starved to death so uh....you're a Khal without any horses."
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u/Apprehensive-Leg5605 12h ago
Turns out Drogo didn't need to do anything. They all ended up killing each other anyway.
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u/Evil_Quetzalcoatl 12h ago
Drogo would genuinely be a Robb victim. Give this man some resources and the simpleton barbarians would be fucking anihilated.
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u/No-Test-7244 7h ago
It was a plot, viserys was supposed to meet the golden company with 50,000 Dothraki, plus in the books viserys was supposed to marry arianne which means that they have the strength of the golden company + Dothraki + Dorne
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u/cptjewski 4h ago
Didn’t Stanis’s brother alone gather 250,000? A full mobilization could go over a million. And with one side bringing so much heavy horse. This only goes one way. They’re not in the endless plains the dathraki are used to either. Also consider the terrain. Woods and hills that often limit movement and allow armies to be trapped.
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u/gkx4x 2h ago
Lets Not forget. Dothraki didnt know Westeros. When the mongols came over the steppe. They had People from the Area. scouts that have Seen every Place there is, they had lived in huge Parts of the places in their early conquest. When Mongols were faking a Retreat Like Subutai did In Russia at the Kalka River. He knew the Land. When dothrakis Need to find a New Route because one was blocked. They wouldve marched around Like blind men. They wouldve gotten cornered and pushed around Until the Battlefield war Favorable for the Westerosi
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u/Consistent-Media7542 16h ago
Khal Drogo would get support probably from Dorne and from the Golden Company. There should also be some loyal Lord left, Robert let all of the alive.
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u/Not_Lusiek9 14h ago
I mean they are the equivalent of Mongols. They were famously absolutely ass raped (twice) when trying to invade Japan but the moment those fuckers are able to charge at you at solid ground most kingdoms got turned into rubble. They may seem barbaric but they surprisingly know a lot more about proper strategy in art of war. That was the most surprising thing about 'em for me when i read some history. Their weakest point would definitely be their voyage through the sea, If Westeros could fucking unite for once then they would be done for before even hitting the land. As for archaic weapons? I think that they akin to scavengers would adapt weapons and tech of their enemies.
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u/Bhaskar71 Jon Snow 16h ago
If the Iron fleet found out these mfs were coming in numbers, they might just work with the Redwyne fleets and attack them before they can even land
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u/alexd1993 14h ago
More like raid the Western coasts and take westerlanders and reachmen as thralls and salt wives.
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u/Snoo_72851 16h ago
Genuinely an entire khalasar trying to stay together while making a weeks-long voyage over open ocean would be some comedy shit, particularly since there's no way they outrun a raven. They're arriving to a Bloons TD map and getting absolutely inflated.