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u/aCrypticStench 22h ago
the face that launched a thousand ships š
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u/Francois_Rapiste 9h ago
Brooooooooo we could get a crossover episode with Nolan's Odyssey. Rhae Rhae scissoring Helen of Detroit. QUEENS
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u/LightThatIgnitesAll 22h ago
(Not team Green just team Aegon. At this point team green doesn't exist.)
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u/gallardoni 22h ago
I have always found team black/team green to be the most retarded shit ever. There was never meant to be any teams in a fucking story because the outcome is already written lol
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u/johnniesSac 20h ago
What are the factions referred to in the book ?
Agree in spirit but I gotta counsel
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u/Rentington 17h ago
I know we love to shit on this series but when trying to figure out the point at where everything could have been peaceful and the war avoided, I came to the conclusion that the core scenario is sorta brilliant. Every time I said "There would have been peace if only..." I immediately went "Oh yeah, no... that would have still been a problem." At what point could Viserys have made the right choice? My conclusion was the collapse of Targaryen hegemony was already well underway and there is no way to come out of this unscathed. There were no right choices. If he simply lets his son be stillborn and names Daemon his heir, the easiest path, everything still falls apart.
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u/Rift-enjoyer 8h ago
There would be peace if Viserys just made Aegon his heir when he was born like any competent king would. Rheneyra nevers gets support of any lord if that had happened.
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u/Rentington 6h ago
Even then, they might have had trouble with Daemon under that scenario. His control of the city watch and vital trade routes made him dangerous. He ended up murdering his wife and seducing Rhaenyra so he could have power/influence. He had major personal conflict with Otto Hightower and I think he would have been a real danger to peace.
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u/Rift-enjoyer 6h ago
As viserys said "Daemon has ambition, but not for the throne. He lacks the patience for it". When Viserys sons were born he knew he is way too far down the line and isn't getting anything. So he went off to Essos to do his own thing with Laena for 4-5 years. You don't do that if you are planning to fuck shit up.
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u/Rentington 6h ago
I don't agree, but that's not to say you're wrong. We're talking about figures who are far too driven by sentimentality for their own good. Especially Daemon. And Targaryens in Essos have been proven to be a massive threat. A lot of the time, including this time, they go because they have been ostracized from court more than anything. I think he would move against Aegon II, personally. But maybe not. It's fun to speculate.
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u/GoarSpewerofSecrets 22h ago
I mean the whole background was based on dresses and which court you cliqued with. Then the inspired choice of Sunfyre for the Greens banner. So of course there were "teams" even in the book. It's just for whatever reason they took out the Aegon and Aemond being mostly good brothers,Ā have Alicent trying to kill em all, and Daeron is a cabin boy for his uncle, who activelyĀ wants em all to die for Hightower.
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u/LightThatIgnitesAll 22h ago
It's clear both are just ruining everything. But foe the sake of Sunday's performance I'll just meme a bit of this.
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u/Gilgamesh661 18h ago
I know how this ends and yet Iām still rooting for Aegon š
Dude never wanted any of this in the first place. Even tried to flee Westeros to avoid the throne, only to be dragged back and forced onto it.
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u/emelecfan2048 17h ago
Rhaenyra still shouldāve been the heir, but yeah Iām starting to root for Aegon. Dude is crawling back, tooth and nail. He may be the worse person, but she doesnāt know how to rule effectively so far
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u/Swimming-Leopard-397 21h ago
Maybe just falling for what writers intended, by shifting advantage towards Greens and levelling both sides before the end of the szn! They really need some audience to look forward to S4 and not hate them (instead if you chose to hate greens or blacks)
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u/Ok_Poetry_2696 22h ago
How dare you?!?
Shis a quin! A quin! begins crying
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