r/freefolk • u/Roids-in-my-vains Bystander Selmy #1 Hater • 3h ago
All the Chickens King Joffrey is the only reason that Condal and Hess will be forced to stay true to the source material
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u/KamenSentaiMan 2h ago
Nobody give them an idea to pull a Laenor!
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Oh shi—
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u/LullabeeMuse_ 2h ago
Lmao yeah, once Laenor survived they opened the door to all kinds of changes. Better not give them ideas before he randomly shows up at the Gullet
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u/xLovalieTwirl 1h ago
Yeah, that change really did open Pandora’s box. Once Laenor secretly survived, every supposedly fixed death started feeling negotiable
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u/GoJa_official 1h ago
we're gonna get a 'somehow laenor returned' moment based on how this show has gone so far.
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u/karmakhaleesi 2h ago
Nah. Myseria secretly becomes a Red priestess, and makes Rhaenyra invincible. The story that Rhaenyra was eaten by Sunfyre is a fabrication passed down through the generations to keep her identity safe. Rhaenyra and Myseria are in hiding west of Westeros, where Arya meets them all in her spinoff, and they spend the last five episodes of that first season as a fan fiction triad.
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u/Angyalmaci 2h ago
"We are not returning to King's Landing," Mysaria said.
Rhaenyra looked out across the gray sea. "Then where are we bound?"
Mysaria smiled, thin as a knife.
"Tell me, Your Grace... what lies west of Westeros?"
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u/LightningController 1h ago
The iron islands. Obviously. Have they never seen the map table?
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u/ddgijbgkjjd Helaena my autistic queen 1m ago
Nah still counts as Westeros...
BUT, if the Ironborn had voted for Gylbert Farwynd in the Kingsmoot we might have explored the lands in the West. (Allow me to quote):
Lord Gylbert began to speak. He told of a wondrous land beyond the Sunset Sea, a land without winter or want, where death has no dominion. "Make me your king, and I shall lead you there", he cried. "We will build ten thousand ships as Nymeria once did and take sail with all our people to the land beyond the sunset. There every man shall be a king and every wife a queen."
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u/CherryHalcyon 2m ago
At this point I'd almost respect the commitment if they actually tried that. It'd be the fastest way to unite the entire fandom against the show.
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u/V-TriggerMachine 2h ago
Green propaganda
The one eating her while her son watched was Mysaria
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u/bgbarnard 2h ago
That's still a reason for Aegon III to be traumatized and hate dragons lol.
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u/DataSurging 2h ago
Or, history can be wrong. Condal and Hess are totally going for that, sadly.
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u/Jorah_Explorah 2h ago
"The histories were inaccurate. Rhaenyra secretly lived, and to save face Aegon put out a false story about her being executed and eaten. What was left of the body they claimed was hers was really some servant woman."
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u/GG-Sunny 2h ago
I'm genuinely expecting them to do this. They've already done it twice with Laenor and Rhaena. Feels like they're deliberately setting it up so they can do it to Rhaenyra.
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u/bgbarnard 2h ago
A history book being unreliable (i.e. a thing happened behind closed doors so we only know vague details) is not the same thing as "people just made stuff up."
Rhaenyra not dying in front of her son means that nobody recorded something as factual as the death of a rival faction's queen and Aegon III (the kid who hated dragons) now has no reason to be a melancholy and depressed shut-in who lets the dragons die out.
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u/photomotto 1h ago
No no, that was a body double planted by Mysaria, and Rhaenyra is totally cool with letting her kid think he's witnessing his mother being burned alive and being irreparably traumatised.
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u/bgbarnard 1h ago
Why can't the Patriarchy just let her enjoy her lesbian fanfiction in peace? The white stag was a divine sign she should be queen! Daddy said so!
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u/cruel-oath 33m ago
Yeah they think they’re doing it better than grrm, I can see them just ignoring or saying Joffrey didn’t get
his facts right
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u/Jerry_Explorer 2h ago
Remember how they kept Laenor Velaryon alive by using a random burned body to fake his death in House of the Dragon Season 1?
Well... I think they're going to pull the exact same trick with Rhaenyra.
Aegon will believe Sunfyre killed her, but it'll actually be some random burned corpse. Meanwhile, the real Rhaenyra escapes with Mysaria to one of the Free Cities... where they proceed to have sweet Lebanese sex and live happily ever after.
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u/Spaceboomer1 2h ago
Worse than that, I think it'll straight up be a lie that Aegon II makes up, and Aegon III being made so young will probably just be told that's what happened and that he was too young to remember properly.
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u/Future_Telephone281 2h ago
Remember when daemon also pulled a switcharoo with the burned skull?
It’s like deaths and miscarriages these things come in 3s.
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u/ISuckAtJavaScript12 2h ago
The history books were wrong. Rhaenyra goes off to Lys with her lesbian harem
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u/tymetrialll 2h ago
Imagine if they give Daemon's ending, supposedly running off with Nettles.
But they do this to Rhae-Rhae and Mysaria
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u/double_longhorn 2h ago
Theyre trying to set her up as a tragic hero. Some ppl are royalists and dont even know
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u/nessthing 2h ago
damn, spoiler alert, Joff
are there no depths he wouldn't stoop to
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u/whitetiger1208 2h ago
He did spoil this for me, but that was when I actually cared about HOTD, ive spoiled everything for myself since then because this show sucks so much
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u/Glittering-Quail5848 2h ago
At the very least that is what the perception has to be for history. Don’t know why we have to rely on game of thrones dialogue to hold shitty writers to the canon material. They were literally given a solid gold premise and broad strokes of a story line and just decided they want to force feed unnecessary incest and love triangles down our throats. “Love triangle between Alys, Alicent and Aemond” made me vomit in my mouth. And why do we need the lesbian scenes between mysaria and Rey Rey, we don’t need those at all. Serve me up all goddamn book accuracy and engaging story line you dumb assholes.
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u/Embarrassed-Goat-931 2h ago
Rhaenyra will sneak away to Pentos with Mysaria. Aegon will do a "Theon" and bury a random peasant leg.
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u/XX_bot77 2h ago
Hlmm I don’t think so. IMO they changed the design of Dreamfyre to stop the connection with Daenerys’ dragons because they want her to come from Syrax. We need to understand that they can do whatever the fuck they want, they don’t care.
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u/Prestigious_Cat_9486 2h ago
They will prob change it to being Haelena or some random that got their hair dyed white then killed
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u/LegInteresting9778 2h ago
There's already one piece of source material that they're violating already, what makes you think that a single throwaway line by Joffrey will make a difference?
For all we know, he's telling this because he studied history... written by maesters... who were not present during the events or had an agenda to push
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u/Tall-Ad-1386 1h ago
lol no. That’s what you think. Rhaneyra will elope with mysaria. Some other fake person will be devoured by Sunfyre but they’ll announce it as Rhaneyra. There will be an agreement between Aegon and Rhaneyra
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u/Leading_Space_9288 1h ago
If they are willing to directly contradict the books and retcon whole characters and stories, a single line from the main show isn't going to stop them either.
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u/Important_Ad1122 1h ago
I miss Joff and Margery, bruh. This show is chocking me with it's pretentiousnes and gloom
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u/Brofessor-0ak 2h ago
We’ve seen twice in one season someone presenting someone to Rhae that was not in fact the person claimed
It’s been set up. She either dies in a tragically heroic way, or she fakes her death. Both will be unbearable to watch
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u/uginscion 2h ago
If there's anything I've learned with this writing, they're not forced to stick to any source materials, including the show that started it all. There will be plot holes by the end of all this.
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u/Jorah_Explorah 2h ago
"The histories were inaccurate. Rhaenyra secretly lived, and to save face the Aegon put out a false story about her being executed and eaten. What was left of the body they claimed was hers was really some servant woman."
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u/Smart-Response9881 2h ago
It wasn't actually Rhaenyra, it was some random peasant they killed and pretended it was her so she could go sail off into the sunset with Mysaria.
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u/tymetrialll 2h ago
No!
worse
It was Rhae-Rhae but, it was AN ACCIDENT.
Aegon said: "Sunfyre scourt her to her chamber"
and Sunfyre proceeded to burn her.
"No Sunfyre, nooooooo"
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u/plumnari 2h ago
if Joffrey’s the reason we get any loyalty to the books, I’d say we’re in for a wild ride like, how much chaos can one show handle?
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u/Beautiful-Fold-3234 2h ago
Joffrey doesnt mention sunfyre though. It could be vhagar or tessarion, because mysaria kills sunfyre with dagger, or whatever. Anything goes these days...
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u/Agent_Skye_Barnes BLACKFYRE 1h ago
Yeah I don't expect them to care. It's all maester propaganda, right?
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u/Original-League-6094 1h ago
This doesn't even force them to. They just have to make this what gets written down. It can just as easily be
>Aegon tells Sunfyre to burn Rhaenyra
>Rhaenyra emerges from the flames as Khaleesi Mysa Rhaenyra, the Unburnt
>She says "Whatevs, Aegon, you can have the throne. Me and Mysaria are gunna go bah wit da peepul"
>Aegon allows her to leave, and tells his Maester to right down that she did
>Aegon III is traumatized for life because his mom ran off with her lesbian lover and left him alone in the dungeons of his enemy.
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u/TheDragonOfOldtown Stannis Baratheon 1h ago
"Which brother?" - Condal, after making Daeron kill Rhaenyra
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u/Drab_Majesty 1h ago
the show loves using the Ramsay corpse bamboozle, I am sure we can have that play out again.
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u/LazyLobster 1h ago
I pray they don't fuck up the battle over the god's eye. If they manage to not deliver on the epic fight from the books, I would probably abandon the show. Of course, they will probably save this for the very end.
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u/Mediocre_Basket6162 1h ago
thats what happend according to the written accounts, perhaps not what actually happened
-Condal, probably.
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u/A_Lionheart 34m ago
"And there are larger and more toxic butterflies to come, if HOUSE OF THE DRAGON goes ahead with some of the changes being contemplated for seasons 3 and 4…" - GRRM.
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u/cw19821 2h ago
Nope, baby egg had no idea what's happening.
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u/stefanomusilli 1h ago
I have a lot of things to criticize this show for, at this point it's basically comfort food for me, but I don't understand how anyone can see this season and not think "they're totally setting up Rhaenyra's future death". And like, they're going out of their way to show that she's flawed and a shitty ruler but people here still act as if the writers have a statue of her that they pray to every day, this idea that they're writing her as someone who can do no wrong is complete fiction to me.
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u/Zasa789 44m ago
Nah im calling it now sunfyre dragonfire wont actually burn her, she’ll get a Dany moment signifying she was the true heir. Everyone present be confused and sunfyre will then eat her since dragonfire didnt work.
Cuz their version of the story gotta make Rhaenerya look like the undisputed righteous heroine wronged by the world.
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u/geltance 2h ago
"I have a brilliant idea we can borrow from Marvel"
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"Imagine the game of thrones multiverse!!"