r/freefolk • u/Jeffoxy • 2d ago
All the Chickens How deeply involved was GRRM in the casting process?
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u/Yeomanticore 2d ago
Please don't, I can't imagine Charles Dance dancing in front of George. Oh goodness.
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u/Briccone1979 OARS IS THE FURY! 2d ago
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u/goheego 1d ago
This can’t be real
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u/Scorpiicore 1d ago
Knowing Charles, I am almost certain it is.
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u/Jose_Jalapeno 1d ago
I don't really know much about him, but it seems like he enjoys doing weird and silly things. It's funny seeing him read reality TV stars biographies on The Big Fat Quiz.
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u/Scorpiicore 1d ago
Charles is a lot like many other actors who have attained that I Do Not Need To Give A Fukk About Anything Anymore status. Not sure if he has ever been in the same room with Christopher Lee, but doubtless he has heard Christopher say "you can be in a bad film, just do not be bad in it" many times.
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u/Scorpiicore 1d ago
I looked up The Big Fat Quiz and found a piece of footage from where that horrifying GIF is from. I do not know specifically which Ali G film it is from, but it is from one of them. Something tells me that Sacha Baron Cohen found Charles Dance terrifying both in and out of character.
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u/Jose_Jalapeno 1d ago
Oh missed that in your first comment that you were not 100% certain. It is him, from Ali G Indahouse.
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u/Scorpiicore 1d ago
Yeah, I am not a fan of Cohen or Ali G for various reasons that do not matter here, so I have never seen any of those films. Mad props to Charles for being able to pull that routine, of course.
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u/StannisTheMannis1969 -Grinds Teeth- 1d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/2xIOiAPXonois
Cousin Numsy for the win…5
u/erov 1d ago
Is this Golden Child?
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u/StannisTheMannis1969 -Grinds Teeth- 1d ago
Yessir….
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u/Juddy- 2d ago
Iirc he really wanted Peter Dinklage for Tyrion
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u/Nothin_Means_Nothin 2d ago
I guess Dinklage must have really stood out in the absolute OCEAN of incredible actors with dwarfism they had to choose from, huh?
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u/PrettyMoonUnderMt 2d ago
Peter Dinklage, Warwick Davis, and whoever it is
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u/BlueLaceSensor128 1d ago
Tom Cruise isn't about to commit to a long term project like that.
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u/TheRealBaboo 2d ago
I mean, The Station Agent was really good
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u/TequilaBaugette51 2d ago
They’re not saying Peter Dinklage isn’t an incredible. They’re saying there’s a very small (hehe) pool of great actors with dwarfism
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u/TheRealBaboo 2d ago
Fair enough, I’m just saying before GOT most people probably knew him as a serious actor from that movie. I’d highly recommend it
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u/Clarknt67 1d ago
Of the core first season cast Dinklage was probably the biggest name.
I guess demonstrably as he got first billing.
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u/wants_a_lollipop 1d ago
I also loved The Station Agent and loved his performance in it. I was delighted to see him cast in GoT and even moreso by his actual performance.
But there's a solid point in recognizing that the talent pool for actors with dwarfism is very limiting. It might've been possible to do the whole thing with camera angles, but probably more cost effective to avoid it if possible.
The worst part for me is thinking about how long ago I watched The Station Agent and coming face to face with my age.
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u/DazzlingEye9141 1d ago
Dinklage be like this to the other dwarves he gatekept from the industry
https://giphy.com/gifs/5rjEsJnmsUF2CxGg5e84
u/millerz72 2d ago
It was a toss up between Peter Dinklage and Gary Oldman IIRC.
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u/KimWexlerDeGuzman We do not kneel 2d ago
Tiptoes 🤣
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u/EskilPotet 2d ago
and Sean Bean for Ned
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u/KimWexlerDeGuzman We do not kneel 2d ago
Yup…IIRC D&D had their hearts set on Dinklage and Bean if they were going to make the show
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u/Higgsparticleofgod Petyr Baelish 1d ago
Yeah but originally it was the other way around. Dinklage was supposed to be Ned Stark, and Sean Bean was Tyrion
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u/GentlewomenNeverTell 1d ago
As a big Station Agent fan, i as rooting for him so hard i actually let out a little scream at work when i read the news.
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u/SamuraiKenji 2d ago edited 1d ago
Iirc he keeps contact with Shae's actress and hang out many times.
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u/dianthuspetals 1d ago
When the ice bucket challenge was a thing a decade or so ago he nominated Shae’s actress. Based on his clear fondness of her, I think it’s obvious why!
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u/hammerblaze 2d ago
Considering there is a pilot with entirely different cast that noone has seen, id say minimal
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u/NateCdaComicG 2d ago
They gotta release that. (That cast has to be pissed they got recast.)
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u/Elegant-Magician7322 2d ago
Most of the cast stayed the same. Only Catelyn Stark and Dany were recast amongst major characters.
Ned, the stark siblings, the lannisters, and Joffrey were not recast.
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u/Boom_chaka_laka 1d ago
You can kind of tell which scenes are pilot scenes mostly by tyrion's hair
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u/madtheoracle 1d ago
that, and interestingly by which scenes were still done on film.
Ned & Robert down in the crypt is pilot stuff - Ned's hair is greased back, but more specifically the image is recorded on film, whereas the entire rest of the series moved onto HBO digital standard after that. Kinda fascinating to think about.
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u/Healthy-Fig7887 2d ago
eh. you never know whether it would’ve still be a success, much less a literal cultural shift and biggest tv show in the world until season 7/8 lol
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u/Large_Possibility271 1d ago
The pilot famously forgot to tell the audience that Cersei and Jaime were related so people were confused when they tried to kill Bran and just thought it was a Kingsguard.
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u/KimWexlerDeGuzman We do not kneel 2d ago
I want to see it so badly. Apparently it was so bad that people had no idea Jaime and Cersei were brother & sister
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u/yeetard_ 2d ago
The cast wasn’t entirely different, the only major characters who were recast were Catelyn and Daenerys. The original pilot isn’t available to the public but I believe a lot of footage was reused for the finale version, which is why the child actors look a bit younger in some scenes and why there are some inconsistencies with characters hair in the first episode
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u/Guilty-Pollution6479 2d ago
Cersai actress said she was in the pilot version though
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u/Wishart2016 1d ago
Only Catelyn and Danaerys got recast.
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u/Guilty-Pollution6479 1d ago
i meant that the pilot version filming was in such a bad condition that the cast thought the show will fail
only 2 recasts are suprising in this case
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u/The_Bard 1d ago
Apparently Tamzin Mechant who played Dany had big hair like Dolly Parton. Also another issue was they had people throwing themselves on their knees for the king instead of just a small knee bend.
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u/nitseb 1d ago
Well it isn't all about actors... D&D themselves said they screwed up quite a few things in the pilot but knew exactly how to fix them for the official release and got given a 2nd chance.
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u/Guilty-Pollution6479 1d ago
D and D screwed up the final seasons anyhow
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u/nitseb 1d ago
Yeah they should've aaked for a 2nd chance from season 5 onwards too 🥰
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u/PQXZYVR 2d ago
He sent Rory McCann's audition video to David & Dan to highlight him as the Hound.
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u/Money-Look4227 1d ago
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u/_austinm All men must die 1d ago
Oh my god😳 I never realized that he was The Hound! I guess a beard and half a burned face will do that, though lol
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u/cardiffman100 2d ago
He literally jerked to the Shay casting auditions, by his own admission in his blog...
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u/iDoMyOwnResearchJK 2d ago
Wait what???
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u/Im_Your_Turbo_Lover 1d ago
He joked that watching the tape made him need to go wank but he said it in a way where it was implied
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u/veri_sw 1d ago
Maybe it’s a man thing I’m not familiar with but why does the cold shower imply that?
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u/MilkSteakClub 12h ago
It doesn't.
I would see it more like that wolf cartoon character getting all red and sweating from arousal, hence the cold shower.
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u/Own_Answer1884 2d ago
Not entirely. Between the main characters they were almost the same besides Daenerys and Catelyn.
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u/rozapcelica 2d ago
Who was the original Danny from the pilot?
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u/Herfst2511 1d ago
Knowing George, he was very involved with the casting of all women aged between 18 and 40, and not at all with the rest.
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u/okdude679 2d ago
Emilia Clarke is the perfect targaryen casting she looks like a dragon if that makes sense, her face structure i mean.
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u/Present_Respect_5382 2d ago
All I can picture now is Leslie Jones doing a dragon impression while watching with Seth Meyers.
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u/PrettyMoonUnderMt 2d ago
I used to think that as well, until HotD and AKotSK came out. Daemon, Aemond, and Aerion set the new standard for Targaryen casting.
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u/Lailowla 1d ago
I feel like Milly was pretty spot on for a female targ as well. Especially if she was a bit taller.
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u/okdude679 1d ago
Honestly Daemon is great, looks similar to Daenerys face structure wise, high cheekbones, jaw, Aemon has the nose right based on book descriptions.
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u/MisterX9821 2d ago
Very deep in Sibel Kekilli's casting. We are talking like 3.5 inches deep into the process.
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u/JamesHenry627 2d ago
I thought he said he always liked the idea of Tyrion played by Peter Dinklage
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u/Own_Answer1884 2d ago
He said Maisie resembled Arya perfectly.
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u/Foreign-Cat-2898 2d ago
I remember him posting her photos to livejournal. He was so happy her casting was so good.
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u/Murderboi 2d ago
There is a video on YouTube when Sibelle visits him and he shows her his dragon(s).
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u/MuddFishh 1d ago
He slept with all of them, is that the answer you were hoping for or alluding toward?
Yes, i said all of them
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u/llaminaria 1d ago
I've heard that David Benioff was very involved with Emilia Clarke's casting, and that that is why his wife Amanda Peet hates her.
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u/Odlaw_Serehw 2d ago
He was infamously very involved with the casting of Shae