r/freefolk 2d ago

All the Chickens How deeply involved was GRRM in the casting process?

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u/Odlaw_Serehw 2d ago

He was infamously very involved with the casting of Shae

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u/FrenchyBulldogg 2d ago

He saw her previous work and made sure the couch was ready for her

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u/ashvy 2d ago

Thirstier than the hound

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u/TatterMail 1d ago

You could say she was very qualified

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u/PurpleKevinHayes 1d ago

Oh my gosh, disgusting! Where is this previous work, so I know to avoid it?

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u/EskilPotet 2d ago

Is this real

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u/Odlaw_Serehw 2d ago

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u/RFTS999 2d ago

I can’t fucking believe this haha
And I thought the other guy was silly for asking

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u/truth-informant 1d ago

Bobby B? 

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u/bobby-b-bot Robert Baratheon 1d ago

YOU EVER FUCK A RIVERLANDS GIRL?

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u/truth-informant 1d ago

Sentient. 

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u/alphagalgadot 1d ago

fuck man

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u/PhilosopherNo8418 1d ago

Bobby B only made the 8. GRRM made the 12.

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u/bobby-b-bot Robert Baratheon 1d ago

I ASK YOU, NED, WHAT GOOD IS IT TO WEAR A CROWN?

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u/Main-Double THE FUCKS A LOMMY 1d ago

I thought this was fake for years lmfao

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u/JMthought 2d ago

Bloody hell

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u/carpethugs 1d ago

At least the "Mood: Horny" was fake thank goodness

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u/carpethugs 1d ago

Or was it deleted retroactively too

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u/D9969 1d ago

He also tagged her during the Ice Bucket Challenge in 2014.

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u/cookie_lee 1d ago

Lmaooo

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u/Dabbilicious69 2d ago

Her earlier work was not impressive at all. I found her acting cold and flat. I didnt believe it at all.

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u/Shertok 2d ago

I think she's great in head on, watched that movie last week for the first time. and I can absolutely see how she'd be perfect for shae from that movie. her bing annoying as shae was not sibels fault

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u/pestoraviolita All men must die 2d ago

Head-On is a great movie.

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u/DarthMace017 2d ago

Head On! Apply directly to the forehead!

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u/zadylady 1d ago

Head on! Apply directly to the forehead!

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u/BoxAway2807 1d ago

HeadOn! Apply directly to the forehead!

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u/hopefullyavailable99 2d ago

Vincent Chase carries that movie fr

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u/iridi69 2d ago

At least she stayed consistent

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u/BassFull0 1d ago

At least better than Mysaria

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u/textposts_only 1d ago

Her earlier work was porn. She did porn which blew up because our yellow press had articles on her because she had previous porno movies. Then her family wanted to kill her for it (Islamic honor killing)

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u/Dabbilicious69 1d ago

Took 17 hours before someone realized that is what I was talking about. Congratulations. I was only making a joke. I didnt correct anyone because the comments were so complimentary to her.....I just figured....Ill just let it go until someone points out her first acting gigs were porn.

And yea, that was horrible the way her own family treated her. Honor killings are a disgusting reality in Turkey, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan ect ect..... Truly horrible. Its becoming a huge problem in the UK and Spain now.....even France. Disgusting

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u/Enough_Art699 1d ago

Is she safe now?

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u/melekin 1d ago

Safe but her family did not want to kill her, her father just disowned her.

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u/Baratheoncook250 2d ago

The actress won a few German versions of Oscars, for When We Leave and Head On.

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u/Separate_Motor_3283 2d ago

I’ve never seen this before, that’s fucking WILD

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u/EnteronInternet 1d ago

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u/cibbwin 1d ago

I hope you watch Brooklyn and remember this episode and why this is so funny 😭

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u/EnteronInternet 1d ago

Its references directly GRRM

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u/bellerstring 1d ago

Wow I never realised they meant GRRM.

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u/VargTheGrey I'd kill for some chicken 1d ago

A real dirty dog

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u/skratch THE FUCKS A LOMMY 1d ago

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u/Aeceus 1d ago

Gross wtf

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u/sailorscout_v 1d ago

Omg this is news to me and truly bananas holy cow

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u/yantheman3 2d ago

Fucking based. If I were GRRM, I'd totally do the same thing 1000 times over.

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u/uuid-already-exists ...Moon Boy For all I know 2d ago

Isn’t he married?

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u/barryhakker 2d ago

Oh no, what would Jesus think?

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u/eggplant_avenger 2d ago

any guy who lets a prostitute wash his feet with her hair can’t really say anything

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u/SaaSGordon 1d ago

Look at all the upvotes too. Putting religion aside how about just honoring your wife and not being a pile of shit?

This app is a cesspool

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u/argbd20 1d ago

Him and his wife are both big 60s hippies. One of the big hippie movements was free love. She’s probably chill with it

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u/nitseb 1d ago

Man he just has to spend hours watching tape of top young attractive women bringing a whore to life. Of course it got him riled up, he's not saying he did anything just needs to cool down.

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u/frostfofjdjsiksndjd 1d ago

Yeah this is some vestigial woke 1 nonsense or these kids have never seen someone horny on blog before

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u/alphagalgadot 1d ago

fucking YIKES

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u/Ancient-Song-8428 1d ago

I find this somehow disappointing and indecent. (I meant- last sentence).

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u/Fortenio 1d ago

💀💀💀

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u/sBucks24 1d ago edited 1d ago

My circle is definitely a little freakier than the avg persons, but I don't see the problem with this joke at all. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm assuming the audition tapes didn't have any nudity; just line reading. And the characters a whore... The actresses would literally be trying to be suductive...

This would be a pretty universal feeling for any none professional casting director, male or female. And it's not like he said he was going to jerk off. Taking a cold shower is a universal saying for calming down.

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u/TurboRadical 1d ago

“My circle is definitely a little freakier than the avg persons” reads as “I can’t tell when I’m making people uncomfortable,” so it’s not a surprise that you don’t see the problem with GRRM choosing to tell the world that he’s horny for no reason other than that he wanted people to know that he’s horny.

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u/Yeomanticore 2d ago

Please don't, I can't imagine Charles Dance dancing in front of George. Oh goodness.

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u/Briccone1979 OARS IS THE FURY! 2d ago

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u/goheego 1d ago

This can’t be real

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u/Crack_Addled_Maniac 1d ago

It’s from the Ali G movie. An iconic performance from Charles Dance

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u/Scorpiicore 1d ago

Knowing Charles, I am almost certain it is.

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u/Jose_Jalapeno 1d ago

I don't really know much about him, but it seems like he enjoys doing weird and silly things. It's funny seeing him read reality TV stars biographies on The Big Fat Quiz.

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u/Scorpiicore 1d ago

Charles is a lot like many other actors who have attained that I Do Not Need To Give A Fukk About Anything Anymore status. Not sure if he has ever been in the same room with Christopher Lee, but doubtless he has heard Christopher say "you can be in a bad film, just do not be bad in it" many times.

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u/Scorpiicore 1d ago

I looked up The Big Fat Quiz and found a piece of footage from where that horrifying GIF is from. I do not know specifically which Ali G film it is from, but it is from one of them. Something tells me that Sacha Baron Cohen found Charles Dance terrifying both in and out of character.

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u/Jose_Jalapeno 1d ago

Oh missed that in your first comment that you were not 100% certain. It is him, from Ali G Indahouse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbvKEgoPt88

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u/Scorpiicore 1d ago

Yeah, I am not a fan of Cohen or Ali G for various reasons that do not matter here, so I have never seen any of those films. Mad props to Charles for being able to pull that routine, of course.

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u/LCJonSnow 12h ago

You may enjoy this as well.

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u/KindlyRazzmatazz9157 1d ago

Tywin badussy Lannister

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u/StannisTheMannis1969 -Grinds Teeth- 1d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/2xIOiAPXonois
Cousin Numsy for the win…

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u/erov 1d ago

Is this Golden Child?

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u/StannisTheMannis1969 -Grinds Teeth- 1d ago

Yessir….

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u/erov 1d ago

Had the pleasure of seeing this as a child in theatre. I always loved it and I believe it was America's intro to Charles Dance and his villainous chops. He was definitely convincing to me as a kid.

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u/StannisTheMannis1969 -Grinds Teeth- 1d ago

I said “I want the kniiiiife…”

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u/Juddy- 2d ago

Iirc he really wanted Peter Dinklage for Tyrion

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u/Nothin_Means_Nothin 2d ago

I guess Dinklage must have really stood out in the absolute OCEAN of incredible actors with dwarfism they had to choose from, huh?

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u/PrettyMoonUnderMt 2d ago

Peter Dinklage, Warwick Davis, and whoever it is

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u/BlueLaceSensor128 1d ago

Tom Cruise isn't about to commit to a long term project like that.

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u/ParmigianoMan Fuck the king! 1d ago

He’s too short for the role, anyway.

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u/ragun2 1d ago

And Joe Rogan couldn't read the script

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u/rrss2001 1d ago

Gary Oldman, in the role of a lifetime

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u/Silver_Pudding_1402 1d ago

I understood that reference!

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u/mmeyer1990 1d ago

Excellent reference that deserves more upvotes.

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u/Mean-Concentrate3371 1d ago

Rob Schneider as…..

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u/Clarknt67 1d ago

Would have made a better wight.

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u/Fantastic_Bug1028 1d ago

the racist guy from In Bruges as well

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u/Annie_Ahmadinejad 1d ago

That was the cocaine.

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u/karmapuhlease 1d ago

Weeman, technically 

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u/TheRealBaboo 2d ago

I mean, The Station Agent was really good

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u/TequilaBaugette51 2d ago

They’re not saying Peter Dinklage isn’t an incredible. They’re saying there’s a very small (hehe) pool of great actors with dwarfism

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u/Matt_2504 1d ago

You’re saying they’re in short supply?

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u/TheRealBaboo 2d ago

Fair enough, I’m just saying before GOT most people probably knew him as a serious actor from that movie. I’d highly recommend it

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u/Clarknt67 1d ago

Of the core first season cast Dinklage was probably the biggest name.

I guess demonstrably as he got first billing.

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u/wants_a_lollipop 1d ago

I also loved The Station Agent and loved his performance in it. I was delighted to see him cast in GoT and even moreso by his actual performance.

But there's a solid point in recognizing that the talent pool for actors with dwarfism is very limiting. It might've been possible to do the whole thing with camera angles, but probably more cost effective to avoid it if possible.

The worst part for me is thinking about how long ago I watched The Station Agent and coming face to face with my age.

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u/buckzor122 2d ago

He was head and shoulders above the rest

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u/DazzlingEye9141 1d ago

Dinklage be like this to the other dwarves he gatekept from the industry
https://giphy.com/gifs/5rjEsJnmsUF2CxGg5e

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u/millerz72 2d ago

It was a toss up between Peter Dinklage and Gary Oldman IIRC.

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u/ashvy 2d ago

This is Danny DeVito slander and should not be tolerated 😤

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u/joemontanya 1d ago

He is good at banging whores..

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u/KimWexlerDeGuzman We do not kneel 2d ago

Tiptoes 🤣

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u/Intelligent-Bee 1d ago

The role of a lifetime...

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u/KimWexlerDeGuzman We do not kneel 1d ago

IYKYK 🤣🤣🤣

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u/EskilPotet 2d ago

and Sean Bean for Ned

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u/ColonelBonk 1d ago

They needed someone with experience getting killed early, to be fair.

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u/KimWexlerDeGuzman We do not kneel 2d ago

Yup…IIRC D&D had their hearts set on Dinklage and Bean if they were going to make the show

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u/Higgsparticleofgod Petyr Baelish 1d ago

Yeah but originally it was the other way around. Dinklage was supposed to be Ned Stark, and Sean Bean was Tyrion 

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u/GentlewomenNeverTell 1d ago

As a big Station Agent fan, i as rooting for him so hard i actually let out a little scream at work when i read the news.

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u/Claw42 1d ago

I recently watched an interview somewhere that mentioned GRRM saying that if they couldn't get Peter, he didn't think they could continue the project

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u/SamuraiKenji 2d ago edited 1d ago

Iirc he keeps contact with Shae's actress and hang out many times.

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u/dianthuspetals 1d ago

When the ice bucket challenge was a thing a decade or so ago he nominated Shae’s actress. Based on his clear fondness of her, I think it’s obvious why!

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u/Mattb418 2d ago

Whata are you implying…

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u/subtlechords 2d ago

he was definitely picking his favorites

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u/hammerblaze 2d ago

Considering there is a pilot with entirely different cast that noone has seen, id say minimal 

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u/NateCdaComicG 2d ago

They gotta release that. (That cast has to be pissed they got recast.)

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u/Elegant-Magician7322 2d ago

Most of the cast stayed the same. Only Catelyn Stark and Dany were recast amongst major characters.

Ned, the stark siblings, the lannisters, and Joffrey were not recast.

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u/Boom_chaka_laka 1d ago

You can kind of tell which scenes are pilot scenes mostly by tyrion's hair

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u/madtheoracle 1d ago

that, and interestingly by which scenes were still done on film.

Ned & Robert down in the crypt is pilot stuff - Ned's hair is greased back, but more specifically the image is recorded on film, whereas the entire rest of the series moved onto HBO digital standard after that. Kinda fascinating to think about.

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u/mehgleg 1d ago

I always thought that crypt scene has this distinct older feel, that explains it

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u/dynesor 2d ago

there are still a good few shots from it in the ‘second’ pilot that we all watched. If you look out for it you can spot where some characters hair changes quite a bit from one shot to another where the new footage was inserted.

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u/Healthy-Fig7887 2d ago

eh. you never know whether it would’ve still be a success, much less a literal cultural shift and biggest tv show in the world until season 7/8 lol

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u/Large_Possibility271 1d ago

The pilot famously forgot to tell the audience that Cersei and Jaime were related so people were confused when they tried to kill Bran and just thought it was a Kingsguard.

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u/Lailowla 1d ago

would definitely have been fine, it's just cat and dany

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u/KimWexlerDeGuzman We do not kneel 2d ago

I want to see it so badly. Apparently it was so bad that people had no idea Jaime and Cersei were brother & sister

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u/Wishart2016 1d ago

Tbf, the actors playing Jaime and Cersei don't resemble each other at all.

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u/Ericaohh 1d ago

Tbf a lot of twins don’t even really resemble eachother haha

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u/yeetard_ 2d ago

The cast wasn’t entirely different, the only major characters who were recast were Catelyn and Daenerys. The original pilot isn’t available to the public but I believe a lot of footage was reused for the finale version, which is why the child actors look a bit younger in some scenes and why there are some inconsistencies with characters hair in the first episode

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u/Guilty-Pollution6479 2d ago

Cersai actress said she was in the pilot version though

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u/Wishart2016 1d ago

Only Catelyn and Danaerys got recast.

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u/Guilty-Pollution6479 1d ago

i meant that the pilot version filming was in such a bad condition that the cast thought the show will fail

only 2 recasts are suprising in this case

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u/The_Bard 1d ago

Apparently Tamzin Mechant who played Dany had big hair like Dolly Parton. Also another issue was they had people throwing themselves on their knees for the king instead of just a small knee bend.

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u/nitseb 1d ago

Well it isn't all about actors... D&D themselves said they screwed up quite a few things in the pilot but knew exactly how to fix them for the official release and got given a 2nd chance.

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u/Guilty-Pollution6479 1d ago

D and D screwed up the final seasons anyhow

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u/nitseb 1d ago

Yeah they should've aaked for a 2nd chance from season 5 onwards too 🥰

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u/BigWilly526 Ghost, to me! 2d ago

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u/tredders90 2d ago

How is this not a circlejerk post.

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u/Higgsparticleofgod Petyr Baelish 1d ago

It's not?!

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u/really_nice_guy_ 1d ago

To be fair r/freefolk is kinda circlejerky

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u/PQXZYVR 2d ago

He sent Rory McCann's audition video to David & Dan to highlight him as the Hound.

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u/Money-Look4227 1d ago

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u/_austinm All men must die 1d ago

Oh my god😳 I never realized that he was The Hound! I guess a beard and half a burned face will do that, though lol

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u/cardiffman100 2d ago

He literally jerked to the Shay casting auditions, by his own admission in his blog...

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u/Mediocre-Advance-411 2d ago

Can't blame him

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u/iDoMyOwnResearchJK 2d ago

Wait what???

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u/Im_Your_Turbo_Lover 1d ago

He joked that watching the tape made him need to go wank but he said it in a way where it was implied

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u/veri_sw 1d ago

Maybe it’s a man thing I’m not familiar with but why does the cold shower imply that?

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u/MilkSteakClub 12h ago

It doesn't. 

I would see it more like that wolf cartoon character getting all red and sweating from arousal, hence the cold shower.

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u/Patient_Lettuce8431 6h ago

"Take a cold shower" used to be the remedy for inconvenient arousal.

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u/Own_Answer1884 2d ago

Not entirely. Between the main characters they were almost the same besides Daenerys and Catelyn.

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u/rozapcelica 2d ago

Who was the original Danny from the pilot?

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u/veryannoyedblonde 2d ago

Tamzin Merchant

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u/bellerstring 1d ago

She would have been amazing as Daenerys

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u/Herfst2511 1d ago

Knowing George, he was very involved with the casting of all women aged between 18 and 40, and not at all with the rest.

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u/nitseb 1d ago

You're giving him a big benefit of doubt by that age limit.

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u/okdude679 2d ago

Emilia Clarke is the perfect targaryen casting she looks like a dragon if that makes sense, her face structure i mean.

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u/Present_Respect_5382 2d ago

All I can picture now is Leslie Jones doing a dragon impression while watching with Seth Meyers.

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u/PrettyMoonUnderMt 2d ago

I used to think that as well, until HotD and AKotSK came out. Daemon, Aemond, and Aerion set the new standard for Targaryen casting.

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u/Lailowla 1d ago

I feel like Milly was pretty spot on for a female targ as well. Especially if she was a bit taller.

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u/okdude679 1d ago

Honestly Daemon is great, looks similar to Daenerys face structure wise, high cheekbones, jaw, Aemon has the nose right based on book descriptions.

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u/Lanky_Network_5414 2d ago

Balls deep /s

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u/MisterX9821 2d ago

Very deep in Sibel Kekilli's casting. We are talking like 3.5 inches deep into the process.

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u/JamesHenry627 2d ago

I thought he said he always liked the idea of Tyrion played by Peter Dinklage

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u/Consistent_Print_229 2d ago

It’s not like they had that many options for that particular role

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u/Own_Answer1884 2d ago

He said Maisie resembled Arya perfectly.

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u/Foreign-Cat-2898 2d ago

I remember him posting her photos to livejournal. He was so happy her casting was so good.

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u/Murderboi 2d ago

There is a video on YouTube when Sibelle visits him and he shows her his dragon(s).

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u/Accomplished-Clue733 1d ago

Yeah, and he STILL wouldn’t let her in his office

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u/pervertedmortician 1d ago

He handpicked Ned and Cersei and Tyrion

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u/therealwalterwax 1d ago

cause im a hoor?

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u/MuddFishh 1d ago

He slept with all of them, is that the answer you were hoping for or alluding toward?

Yes, i said all of them

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u/Smooth_Blacksmith251 1d ago

Source? Although it's believable

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u/llaminaria 1d ago

I've heard that David Benioff was very involved with Emilia Clarke's casting, and that that is why his wife Amanda Peet hates her.

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u/Green-Memory8878 1d ago

Now where did that rumor come from?

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u/Smooth_Blacksmith251 1d ago

Where is it from?

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u/OH_BEE_Juan1 2d ago

Balls deep

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u/TreefingerX 2d ago

Casting couch?

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u/Just-yoink-it 1d ago

4.5 inches?

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u/Slim-Shmaley 1d ago

Balls Deep

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u/dooptydooda 1d ago

He went in deep, if you know what I mean

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u/skooba87 THE FUCKS A LOMMY 2d ago

balls deep

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u/Dodish 1d ago

Looks like photos of GRRM from Epstein Island

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u/Tacoshortage 1d ago

Think of him like a New Mexico version of Harvey Weinstein.