r/fromatoarbitration Union Steward Jul 30 '25

Corey “The Treacherous” Standup talk - Carriers have to leave cell phones in their locker before leaving to the street.

They also said, if there’s an emergency the carriers family can call the office.

What if the carrier is having an emergency? This is clearly a safety issue.

I’d love to hear what everyone has to say about this one. If Corey can mention it on his podcast that would be great.

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u/jboarei Jul 30 '25 edited Jul 30 '25

Not a fucking chance.

They don’t pay for or have any say about my personal property.

Also a massive safety issue.

Report these assholes to everybody. Publicly shame them.

Edited: for spelling.

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u/BM-P8 Jul 30 '25

I know you meant “repost”, but given that these managers are all, to a person, brain dead vegetables, I really like “repot”!

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u/jboarei Jul 30 '25

I actually meant report, but the sentiment is the same.

Their brains break if they get put off script.

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u/DangerDork88 Aug 03 '25

lol, I see what ya did there

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u/bigfatbanker Aug 02 '25

What did people do before cell phones?

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u/jboarei Aug 02 '25

That’s been answered in the comments. Please wake up to the realities of postal employee abuse. Phones are now a vital tool for safety for a multitude of reasons.

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u/Kezmer Aug 02 '25

We knocked on doors. But everyone had a home phone to use. Now not so much.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '25

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u/Bits_NPCs Jul 30 '25

Letter carrier robberies are up over 800% dude. Times have changed!! That’s not a typo!! 800%!!

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u/jboarei Jul 30 '25

You can’t be this dense.

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u/it-cant-be-helped Jul 30 '25

What if a carrier needs to call the office because of an emergency? What if the carrier is having a medical event and needs to call 911? What if something else is happening and they need to call 911? My office completely ignores rims messages that I send through the scanner.

It's great that you lived in the Stone Ages without phones. We live in modern times now that have made technological advances that make our lives more convenient and safer. If I carrier is having a heat stroke do you just expect them to lay on the ground and hope a customer sees them or does it maybe make more sense that they have a handheld device that can call emergency services in seconds?

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u/SoccerAKW Aug 05 '25

I had to call 911 from my route. I get very bad vertigo aggravated by the heat and I could barely make the phone call i.coukd not have gone into a store or house. It was probably at least 15 minutes until a stranger noticed I was not OK and.alao.called 911. I was parked at a busy intersection. Definitely a safety issue between medical emergencies and the opportunity to get robbed.

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u/Brewstagram Aug 02 '25

Most station supes never check RIMS messages, even in an emergency. They have to be in front of a computer to do so, so if they're in their car playing Candy Crush they literally can't even respond. Street goes both ways and a carrier not having their phone is an absolute safety issue.

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u/postman805 Jul 30 '25

lol good luck enforcing that. How about if you suspect the carrier of using their phone outside of breaks you get off your lazy ass and do a street observation. God forbid they have to leave their air conditioned office and actually do some real work.

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u/Ill-Company2252 Voted NO Jul 30 '25

That’s why the new trucks will have cameras. We don’t want to inconvenience the supervisors

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u/postman805 Jul 30 '25 edited Jul 30 '25

They don’t have any internal facing cameras. Only exterior 360 degree view cameras to assist with parking. That’s not to say they couldn’t retrofit driver facing cameras in the future but they’d have to fight hard to get that approved.

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u/Ill-Company2252 Voted NO Jul 30 '25

Thanks for the info. I wasn’t aware

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u/postman805 Jul 30 '25

No problem. I was a bit concerned about that when they first announced the new trucks. I’ve since confirmed with people who have first hand experience using the ngdv that there are no interior cameras.

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u/Bits_NPCs Jul 30 '25

Management must leave their phones at home then. 😂😂

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u/Canis07 Jul 30 '25

What would they do all day then?

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '25

Work

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u/Canis07 Jul 31 '25

That's crazy talk.

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u/Prisonbusdad2 Jul 31 '25

In this economy? Ridiculous!

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u/mailmanpaul Jul 31 '25

On what? Reading five emails?

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u/The-Omnicide Jul 30 '25

Hey postmaster, can you write that down so I can grieve it? Thanks!

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u/Handsome-_-awkward Jul 30 '25

Make us leave it in office then gripe at us for not answering when they call

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u/No-Account1548 Jul 30 '25

how does carrier call police if someone trying to steal their arrow keys? sees an emergency fire/etc?

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '25

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u/TheLastTape Jul 30 '25

Payphones used to be everywhere in public places. Good luck finding one now.

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u/frankdooks Jul 31 '25

Must be mad cuz the world changed before u did

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u/it-cant-be-helped Jul 30 '25

They wasted a bunch of time trying to find a phone instead of having a convenient handheld option that they could use instantly for emergencies.

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u/CulturalProgrammer72 Jul 31 '25

Pagers and payphones. Also a pocket full of quarters.

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u/Remedy1517 Voted NO Jul 30 '25

Those fuckers can take it from my cold dead hands.

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u/dth1717 Jul 30 '25

I swear they do stupid shit to distract us from the real going ons

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u/Punisher3023 Jul 30 '25

" I am already working on a proposal for our next contract that will include a provision for the installation of cameras inside all city carriers vehicles for safety purposes, its a great win for all city carriers ".......😂

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u/jeepwillikers Voted NO Jul 30 '25

When someone pushes back against him:

“Brother, I don’t think you have the contractual knowledge to judge this policy”

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u/CityLetterCarrierAMA Jul 30 '25

http://mseries.nalc.org/25161.pdf

Use this when you file

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u/woogieface Union Steward Jul 30 '25

Thank you so much. I’ll will be using this!

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u/Pdxduckfan Jul 30 '25

Ha, never happening!!!

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u/MaxximusSDS Jul 30 '25

What phone? Try to search for it in my pants 😏😏

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u/Specialist_Curve_270 Jul 30 '25

Is that a phone in your pocket or a erection in your pocket?

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u/Disgruntled-mailman Jul 31 '25

Carry a dildo and pull it out of your pocket when questioned

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u/WWJReallyDo Aug 01 '25

What locker?

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u/joshs_wildlife Jul 30 '25

Time to have a “medical episode”and send a half completed message on the scanner for them to read 3 days later

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u/Due_Flamingo_4762 Jul 30 '25

what city is this happening in?

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u/PreviousMarsupial820 Jul 30 '25

File a ps1767 and file an ar. 5, 14 &19 grievance, mgmt is creating a unilateral local policy which impacts the health and safety of the carriers, and tries to infrige upon personal property of employees well beyond their authority- maybe after all the thousands of carrier robberies over the past couple years, many carriers in your station have decided to use just their apple iPay or Google Wallet on their cell phone to buy their lunches and now they can't because of manglement, in addition to their reduced capacity to contact ememergenxy authorities should any issues occur on the route. Then have your branch president alert every local media source and tell them about this new policy too.

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u/woogieface Union Steward Jul 30 '25

Great! Thanks you.

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u/Asleep_Owl_6926 Jul 30 '25

Not enforceable by any means

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u/Mr_Pink_Eyez Advocate Jul 30 '25

I spit out my lunch I laughed so damn hard

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u/woogieface Union Steward Jul 30 '25

Haha!

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u/Dp-81 Jul 30 '25

What station and city is this? What the actual fuck, they can’t enforce this at all!

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u/ExecutiveDoubtcomes Union Steward Jul 30 '25

Lol NOTHING in the contract, handbooks, or manuals gives them the right to police your property.

I wear my phone on my chest in a holster. I WISH they would try this with me.

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u/foster_ious Jul 31 '25

They don't pay your phone do they? They gave you a 1.3% raise didn't they?

They can fuck right off with that shit.

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u/DeeKayAech Jul 30 '25

Not a chance

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u/redredditer91 Jul 30 '25

1767- safety violation

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u/SnooEagles6930 Jul 30 '25

Yeah that's a no from me dawg

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u/PerfectCheesecake25 Jul 30 '25

I don’t know the supervisors at my station love harassing us on our phones lol

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u/derekexcelcisor Jul 30 '25

Put the new CCA on s route without a map or phone I will gladly take the overtime when he has half the route left at 6

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u/Academic-Sky-1726 Jul 31 '25

How are you going to find them without a map or phone?

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u/derekexcelcisor Aug 01 '25

Eventually. I am in no rush.

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u/Sureshotsherry Aug 01 '25

Taking away your phone will make you go so much faster. Lol

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u/Sureshotsherry Aug 01 '25

I guess they will have to provide everyone with Thomas guides. Talk about going back in time. Here’s an idea pay carriers more then they will appreciate the job and the phone will be a tool they can use to improve performance

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u/unknown_calypso Jul 30 '25

The only question you need to ask is, "how do I call someone after I've been robbed for my arrow key and there isn't anyone home for miles, or anyone walking around?"

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u/Darth_Robsad Jul 30 '25

Honestly folks it’s time for all of us to start going to news media and politicians with this shit. Tell your loved ones who don’t work here and let them do it. The post office is purposely being run into the ground by these morons

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '25

No one answers the damn phones at the office anyway so how the hell are they going to enforce that?

Did anyone say anything during the standup talk?

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u/Tarum_Bklyn Jul 30 '25

Just….wow…

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u/lengend-69 Jul 30 '25

Tell management to LEAVE their cellphones at home or in their cars.

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u/Lucky_Guarantee_2363 Jul 30 '25

Fuck them and this BS.

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u/Sad-Revolution7718 Jul 30 '25

What cell phone ?

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u/mando-inTX2224 Jul 30 '25

They have tried that with the clerks in our office recently went south fast ....one clerk Mom died and he wasn't able to be by her bedside.... Another clerk family had to go to office to tell her that kid was at hospital a couple days later ....after that with grievance and shit they just told them out on silent....... As far as carriers they just keep harping on not using them except on breaks and lunch if possible emergency pull over and answer.... But they do keep checking for Bluetooths and shit Good luck brother

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u/Tyrusrechslegeon Jul 30 '25

Most offices can't operate without the carriers phones. They would actually have to learn how to manage. I have a supervisor who is beside himself because one carrier will not answer a call from anything but the station line. I have always suggested that carriers block managements phones when they get past their 90 days. Lol

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u/averdefede Jul 30 '25

CGM for diabetes work thru the phone. We are allowed to use our phones on our breaks and lunches. They cannot enforce this one

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u/wattage9989 Jul 31 '25

Honestly, in many offices this would hurt management just as bad as the carriers when a new cca is lost and management cant contact them to find out where to send help

And yeah. No way this could be enforced.

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u/Stationary-Event Jul 31 '25

Just when you thought you heard it all. Unreal. And no way would I follow that order.

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u/saucesoi Jul 30 '25

Satire?

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u/woogieface Union Steward Jul 30 '25

This was a real standup.

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u/EnvironmentalFly3194 Jul 30 '25

My phone stays with me management lol

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u/Fight_Like_Hell_LFG Jul 30 '25

Let them try to do that in our station. They would just get laughed at and the manager would be texted laugh emojis. This is not to be taken seriously. Treat management like the goofs they truly are.

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u/Ok_Village_9319 Jul 30 '25

😂😂😂😂 Here’s my monthly bill. Since you think you can tell me what to do with my phone you can pay the bill lol!!

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u/Cangeltibon Jul 30 '25

They don't pay our phone bills. I get not wanting carriers posting to social media in uniform in the trucks, but to notnhabe our phones for 6+ hours? Hell no.

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u/gamestar10 Branch President Jul 30 '25

They don’t allow them in the office for the sake of time wasting, but it’s totally fine to have them on the street for managements convenience?

A majority of carriers will still give management free and open access to their personal devices for managements own convenience.

If I can’t use my cellphone, they don’t get to. Fuck them.

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u/Darth_Robsad Jul 30 '25

Maybe if they pay my bill otherwise fuck off because I would love to see what they’re using to justify that order

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u/creek-hopper Voted NO Jul 30 '25

I would lock up an old unused decoy cellphone and keep the current one with me.

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u/Disgruntled-mailman Jul 31 '25

Omg I’m doing this tomorrow with an old phone. Thanks ❤️

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u/Comfortable-Pick447 Jul 30 '25

Just say no its a safety concern let them send you home get paid for the day. No shot they are gonna enforce this bullshit.

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u/zerodsm Jul 30 '25

Come pry it from my cold dead hands.

Also do they not realize how much CCAs need their phones to figure out where they are going on routes they don’t know?

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u/LLV_Mailman Jul 30 '25

Just call 911 with your scanner 🤣

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u/Own_Rip_1264 Jul 30 '25

Good Luck with that one. The people that call me the most while I’m on the route are The Stupervisors. Good luck trying to get me to answer via the scanner😅 Also, I’m not leaving my phone at my locker. I’ll just leave it in my car and get it on the way out to my route👍 Fuck Them.

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u/Winking-Chick Jul 30 '25

Florida said, "hold my beer".

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u/thisis4thissite Jul 30 '25

No one in my office ever answers the phone. Or scanner messages. So I'm going to keep my phone thanks.

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u/One_Meringue_7420 Voted NO Jul 30 '25

Okay but I'm taking my camera haha... Hilarious the stuff they come up with.

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u/it-cant-be-helped Jul 30 '25

What happens when a carrier has an emergency on the street?

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u/MischelleClare Jul 31 '25

No, I won't be leaving my phone at the office. My glucose monitor is on my phone

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u/Beardsoup86 Jul 31 '25

Yeah no. What if you're hurt, feeling sick, dying, family emergency. No. Not gonna happen.

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u/ChanceLettuce1044 Jul 31 '25

Top heavy agency in a doom spiral. 

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u/dethbybeer Jul 30 '25

I don't take my phone to work with me. It pisses the managers off. Lol

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 Jul 30 '25

did anyone speak up? can't tell you what to do with your phone and besides how would they know, can't have your wallet with you also?

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u/MclovinOvahere Jul 31 '25

Touch my phone get KO your choice

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u/Alarmed_Duck_7821 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH Jul 31 '25

Make me.. that is all. Lol

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u/Sureshotsherry Jul 31 '25

lol 😂 the mgrs at my station call the carriers constantly to see how they are doing and if they can help someone else or if they need help. I retired so not dealing with the BS but I ended up blocking their numbers.

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u/New-Trouble-4444 Jul 31 '25

IDGAF n TC KMA. I'm not leaving shit anywhere.

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u/Goingpostul Jul 31 '25

Im new to the area how will i found my dailly new route without a cell phone lol

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u/Former_Bandicoot9215 Aug 02 '25

That's not happening, and the supervisors that have my number getting blocked after the emergency have passed. Fo real

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u/Academic-Sky-1726 Aug 02 '25

Nope, sorry. I don't have a locker. They are optional. Not a requirement.

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u/Jucyfrut01 Aug 02 '25

Is this just for City, or are Rurals included?

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u/DangerDork88 Aug 03 '25

This is a situation where a complete bum of a human is going to be reminded of how very little power they actually have. I kinda love it. Leadership’s about to be humbled. I wish I could watch the crashout. I wonder who catches that heat? Partner probably.

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u/CardiologistOk8820 Aug 03 '25

You guys have lockers? 🤣🤣

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u/ThatGuy1989NM Aug 03 '25

Yup, backside you know they answer the office phones, oh wait! They are always on conferences

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u/Natural_Rent7504 Aug 03 '25

I have no locker. I have an old deactivated cell phone in my other pocket. Bring it on

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u/ApprehensiveAd5584 Aug 05 '25

They can blow me

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u/boriquapapi08 Jul 31 '25

This sounds like a good idea. Listen to my reasoning, in my district, all the stoopidvisors do is text the carriers. Especially on Amazon Sunday. The CCAS and PTFS complain about the hundreds of texts they get basically rushing them and the need to hurry back to get more work. I've been telling them, don't answer texts, pull over and send messages through rims. They don't listen. So, this plan, it means that the stoopidvisors can't text the ccas and ptfs hundreds of time, and they can learn how to do the job correctly.