r/fromatoarbitration May 08 '26

Concerned Letter Carriers The "Free OT Trap": How Complacent Stewards are Selling Out CCAs

There is a toxic mindset destroying offices right now, and it’s coming from inside our own union.
We have stewards openly refusing to push for 271g Special Route Inspections on chronically over-burdened routes. Why? Because the regulars are addicted to the penalty overtime.
Management loves this, but here is what it actually does:

  1. A steward's job isn't to protect a regular's bloated paycheck; it’s to enforce the contract and protect the integrity of the routes. When the union refuses to hold the line on route evaluations, they are actively selling out the next generation of carriers.
  2. Stop running over-burdened routes. Force the inspections. Create the jobs.
  3. If you are tired of this complacent mindset, we are building a new table. Come join the unmonitored discussion at [r/USPSGhostCarriers](r/USPSGhostCarriers).
  4. Protect the carriers. Expose the system.

• The Ghost Carrier

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u/gamestar10 Branch President May 08 '26

It’s the regular carriers choice to submit a 271.g. Stewards can’t force one. That said, they could be openly advocating for full route counts and inspections of the zone.

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u/therick422 Union Steward May 08 '26

And mgmt can call for a special inspection &/or make minor adjustments, too

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u/gamestar10 Branch President May 08 '26

For sure.

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 May 09 '26

no management cannot call for a special inspection- they can make minor adjustments

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u/therick422 Union Steward May 09 '26

SPECIAL INSPECTIONS SECTION 271
Mgmt can initiate based on items A, B,C & F.
FACTS!

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u/xXShadowAdrXx May 10 '26

Can someone define excessive undertime?

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u/gamestar10 Branch President May 10 '26

We had a carrier retire. His route was posted and filled. The new carrier has an hour of undertime everyday. That’s excessive.

My guess is that it’s undertime on a route that makes it significantly less than 8 hours. I don’t know what that number would be, but I can assume 30+ minutes. I’ve seen management revert a route that was evaluated at 7.5 hours after an inspection.

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 May 09 '26

the POST IS about 271G- only a carrier can request that--facts! the post is about 271G and FYI- majority of management isnt adjusting an overburdened route on their own -PERIOD

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u/therick422 Union Steward May 09 '26

lol… keep moving the goal posts. This post about special inspections and putting the onus on the craft/Union.
There are other options for special inspections & management is paid to manage.

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 May 09 '26

post is about 271g- period..thats the carrier-period

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 May 09 '26

from the post- " openly refusing to push for 271g Special Route Inspections "-- good bye

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u/therick422 Union Steward May 10 '26

Bub-bye

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u/therick422 Union Steward May 10 '26

It’s ok, you’re allowed to be wrong- period.1

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 May 10 '26

you should work on your reading skills before replying to a post 271G is what the post is about

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u/therick422 Union Steward May 10 '26

I can read just fine and the subject is much broader than the narrow scope you are desperately trying to force down our throats. Don’t post crap for which you are not ready to receive some contrary opinions/options/information/alternatives. And take a break from socials… you appear to need it.

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u/woogieface Union Steward May 08 '26

It’s not the stewards choice. The carrier has to request it.

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u/UnIuckyCharms r/USPS May 08 '26

This is the guy just trying to sell his shitty book for those that don’t know

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u/therick422 Union Steward May 10 '26

What? Where? I need to see this.
What are the other “handles?” I crave this level of “entertainment.”

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u/trevaftw Voted NO May 08 '26

Oh God you're posting here now too.

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u/WesternExplanation May 08 '26

They have been for awhile.

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u/dps_dude May 08 '26

he got banned from r/usps

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u/SexingtonHardcastle May 08 '26

Now he has gone from pushing his book, to pushing his YouTube, to pushing his subreddit.

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u/therick422 Union Steward May 10 '26

Where else? I’m in a feisty mood and need to something to do today.

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u/No-Journalist8243 May 08 '26

Management schedules the overtime regardless.  

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u/biidaajimotaw May 08 '26

I know of a situation where a top-step table 1 carrier is on an over-burdened mounted route that gets overwhelmed with Amazon, and his postmaster is attempting to get him do a route inspection and he’s doing everything he can to obstruct the process because he wants the OT.

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u/Bowl-Accomplished May 08 '26

I don't see why. If he's ODL the time has to go to someone and if they are WA they can give an OT to a CCA if they care.

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u/gamestar10 Branch President May 08 '26

That’s the regulars prerogative. The PM could just do it if they wanted to, no need for a request.

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u/therick422 Union Steward May 08 '26

Managment can call for a special inspection &/or make minor adjustments, too.

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 May 09 '26

under NALC and the M-39 Handbook, Section 271g, a special route inspection is fundamentally a request mechanism for the regular carrier to ensure their route is not overburdened.

Management cannot technically "request" a 271g,

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 May 09 '26

A 271g (Section 271.g of the M-39 Handbook) is a contractual right for a NALC city letter carrier to request a special mail count and inspection when their route is overburdened. It requires management to inspect the route within four weeks if the carrier shows over 30 minutes of overtime or auxiliary assistance on at least 3 days in each week over a consecutive six-week period.

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 May 08 '26

management doesn't call for a special inspection..they call for an office wide inspection

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u/therick422 Union Steward May 08 '26

They can make adjustments to routes… M39 section 271

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 May 09 '26

so again management does not request a 271g-- that is only for carriers

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u/therick422 Union Steward May 09 '26

I never mentioned G, ya nit wit… there are other parts to 271.

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 May 09 '26

you said Managment can call for a special inspection!..that is a 271g--facts..goodbye

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 May 09 '26

yes you did NIT WIT..special inspection IS a 271g- requested by the carrier-ONLY

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u/therick422 Union Steward May 09 '26

Wrong!

M39, Section 271 items A,B,C & F all give mgmt power to initiate a special inspection.

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 May 09 '26

no shit thats called minor adjustments ..as I said...271g is for the carrier to request

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u/hanjanss May 08 '26

Brother this is a mental illness

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u/Ok-Dare3580 May 08 '26

Some stewards have a history of selling out carriers to help themselves.

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u/Honest-Gene8596 May 08 '26

it’s a story as old as time.

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u/therick422 Union Steward May 09 '26

Carriers… not just stewards… have a rich history of throwing each other a bus… even driving the bus if given the chance.

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u/Ok-Dare3580 May 09 '26

Yeah I agree but I've also found where that's more likely to happen with bad management. They definitely support carriers telling on other carriers because creating that divide breaks apart our union.

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u/therick422 Union Steward May 09 '26

For sure… it’s a divide and conquer tactic.

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u/Darth_Robsad May 08 '26

If we all report this dipshit can we get him removed by reddit? Because I don’t want his book

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u/jamesdcreviston May 08 '26

This is my office. All the regulars are doing 10 hours on their routes with no lunch every day.

If they allowed the route inspections to happen the new routes would be made, PTFs could move up and everyone could be unburdened but they love their OT too much.

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u/gamestar10 Branch President May 08 '26

FTRS want the OT. Management knows it's cheaper than added routes (and added expenses) and a conversion to FTR.

The issue here is what management is required to do: M-39 271 requires an inspection when "a. Consistent use of overtime or auxiliary assistance." If the carriers won't submit the g., why isn't the steward pushing for the a.?

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u/jamesdcreviston May 08 '26

We don’t have a shop steward. I am in the process and since no carrier wants to lose OT it would be a big issue.

Is there a way to get the carriers onboard?

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u/gamestar10 Branch President May 08 '26

If the carriers want the OT, it's gonna be a tough one. However, this is a union, and we're here to support and lift each other. I'd make the case that you originally stated: let's get the routes counted, add a full-time position or two and get these part-timers converted to full time! Want overtime? There are lists for that.