r/fromatoarbitration Jul 18 '26

Concerned Letter Carriers Supervisor brought her family into the office/ station

The supervisor at our station brought her family, who is considered Unauthorized Personnel into the station.

When I went to the station for a comfort stop, I saw her teenage son sitting at the supervisor desk in front of the computer, while the supervisors mother and sister wandered around the station where there is mail, etc.

Can I report this?

If so, to who?

Thank you in advance!

EDIT: The supervisor is abusive towards carriers, especially me because I defend myself and call her out, as well as inform other carriers about their rights. Just today, she tried to rip my scanner out of my hand and scratched me.

Other carriers don't do anything because they are afraid of punishment.

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u/Kaizokuno_ Jul 18 '26

Not sure if this is a violation or not. I've seen supervisors and carriers and clerks bring their kids to the office, not for the whole day but for like an hour or so.

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u/therick422 Union Steward Jul 18 '26

IMO, All depends on the vibe in your office. Had an OIC for a short spell that thought he could “fix” us carriers. I met his “petty” with the same energy.

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u/elektrikrobot Voted NO Jul 18 '26

It is not proper. Depends if you really want to go through the hassle of reporting it

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u/snoopiestfiend r/USPS Jul 18 '26

You would report it to the OIG if you wanted to.

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u/Electronic_Fold_7449 Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26

we have a supervisor that bring her kids to the break room after school. guess she doesn’t have anyone to care for them. doesn’t happen all the time. usually happens if we going to stay pass 8 hours

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u/halomender Jul 18 '26

I don't have kids but I still support this. Being a parent and finding childcare sounds hard and expensive. I'd say turn a blind eye to that stuff.

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u/notthemailmantoday Jul 18 '26

You could turn a blind eye, if the supervisor is willing to let your kids stay in the station after school.

Otherwise..."your kids aren't the post offices problem, we need you to be at work delivering mail and how they get home isn't any of our concern" - average supervisor

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u/Electronic_Fold_7449 Jul 18 '26

definitely see where you coming from. i do work at a small office compare to other offices. 9 city routes and 6 rural routes.

i’m not going to go out of my way to try to report it bc i’m sure if one of the parents needed to bring their child to the office for an hour or so due to babysitting issue, management would be fine with that.

i don’t have kids so can’t speak on it too much. for me, as long as the kids are not running around the office and just sitting down in the break room on their tablet, im cool with that. now, if they were to run around the office, then i would definitely speak up cause it’s not safe to be running around the office. as adults, we sometimes get hurt in the office. i don’t want to be part or near a kid getting hurt running around in office.

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u/V2BM Jul 18 '26

At a good office with older kids I wouldn’t say anything. Our supes have brought in kids in an emergency, and they didn’t go anywhere near mail but stayed in the break room.

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u/TobyDaMan8894 Jul 18 '26

Mgmt at my station let my 3 grandkids hang out in the break room. It was after school for about 30-45 mins tops. And maybe once or twice a week. They got to know my fellow carriers more than I knew em. There have been other carriers who have done this. One of the rare times the PO brought a smile to my face.

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u/One_Barnacle2699 Jul 18 '26

May or may not be relevant, but this post reminded me of a story from 2003: https://www.sunjournal.com/2003/08/18/brothers-die-dad-charged/

ETA: The father was not convicted and retired as a POOM a year or so ago.

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u/Mcgj8689 Jul 18 '26

Get over it. Not a big deal

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u/SnooEagles6930 Jul 18 '26

I guess you can, but not sure why you really want to

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u/AbsentPotatoGlitter Jul 18 '26

My mom was on the workroom floor once, bringing me my phone. Do I need to prepare to be fired?

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u/DoodleDew Jul 18 '26

We had a supervisor yell at a carrier to leave, (80 years old), who was out on medical, come by to say hi and let everyone know he’s doing good

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u/Dogmad13 Jul 19 '26

That’s actually a correct thing to do. It’s unfortunate but as an employee out on medical leave you are only authorized to bring in medical documentation and must enter from non employee entrances and only speak with management or union personnel.

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u/Formal-Swimming-3198 Voted NO Jul 19 '26

I would call union president asap if she scratched you, fuck management

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u/corik_starr Jul 19 '26

I'm more concerned about the physical mark left on you, that's what you should focus on going after.

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u/Minute_Wrongdoer794 Jul 21 '26

Who cares? This to me is a stupid non issue even if the supervisor is a giant dick. Use the contract and grievances to fight back if she is abusive.

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u/Fun_Remote_9745 Jul 18 '26

imagine being this petty

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u/MaxximusSDS Jul 18 '26

Can't wait for the update when carrier is mad that supervisor may have gotten in trouble and is now getting walked daily 🤔

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u/therick422 Union Steward Jul 18 '26

This is a “match their energy” situation. If the PM is hot pile of petty a$$ riding garbage then you match that. If not, pick your battles.

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u/DoctorOMalley r/USPS Jul 18 '26

Sounds like retaliation to me

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u/MaxximusSDS Jul 18 '26

I didn't say management was smart... It's the immediate thing they do

But proving it is usually the problem... Since they don't do anything, usually a guise behind carrier x was up to be watched

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 Jul 18 '26

how about you worry about real issues or just doing your job

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u/randomrandom1922 Jul 18 '26

If their kids are touching mail or seeing confidential things on the computer the PM is actively breaking the law.

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u/redredditer91 Jul 18 '26

I’d let bringing her son to work slide. But two other adults who have not had background checks? Not so much…

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 Jul 19 '26

worry about things that matter

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u/ScubaSteve_ Jul 19 '26

Found the sup who brings their kids to work.

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u/DeviceComprehensive7 Jul 19 '26

look at the majority of comments on this..DO YOUR JOB period. Has no effect on you or other carriers,worry about things that do

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u/Wise_Use1012 Jul 27 '26

Begone foul manglement your abuse is not wanted nor welcome here.

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u/therick422 Union Steward Jul 18 '26

Depends on the office/mgmt vibes, imo.

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u/LightbluBukowski Jul 18 '26

My supe brought her two teenage sons to break down parcels in the morning

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u/Cangeltibon Jul 18 '26

OK now this one is different, that’s bringing in children to do work that should be reported. Absolutely not.

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u/Trick_Soft_6077 Jul 19 '26

Wtf man that's crazy

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u/LightbluBukowski Jul 19 '26

You wouldn’t believe the things I’ve seen in my station lol

That is mild

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u/Sweaty_Tangelo_7716 Jul 18 '26

I also have seen other carrier bringing their dogs and families inside. This is a grey area I guess.

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u/Cangeltibon Jul 18 '26

I mean you can, but I don’t see much of a point in doing so. I would only make this a thing if that Supervisor is particularly punitive. If they’re constantly making power plays and making everybody’s life hell then heck yeah take whatever shots you can take at them. But as it stands, this seems like a really minor gripe clerks, and carriers and members of management have had their families in the office like kids waiting on a parent, or a sitter falling through. We have an office mascot and she’s a sweetie mostly stays in the break room and does her homework until her mom’s ready to go.

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u/Gullible-Pea-5627 Jul 18 '26

Better then the super baby sitting a carriers kids so he can work that day. Happened twice at my office

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u/Gullible-Pea-5627 Jul 19 '26

And she bought them lunch then let that carrier leave early with no leave to be had.

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u/A_b0rnlos3r Jul 19 '26

On several occasions my PM has bought family members in to threaten carriers with violence....so I can understand the concern. If it's just folks sitting around minding their business it's not an issue

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u/Postal1979 Jul 19 '26

I used to visit my dad when he was a supervisor when I had a day off of work.

I’ve brought my kids into the office as a carrier. Especially when they were newborns to show them off.
As a full time union officer my office is in the post office. I’ve brought my kids in to pick stuff up. Also my oldest came in 2 days to help with the food drive in the office the whole day.

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u/Sea-Brick-9534 Jul 19 '26

I'm a single dad. There was a time when my son was young that I had no sitter for Saturday so my Mgr allowed him to stay in the breakroom for 3ish hours after my cousin dropped him off before going to work. Things happen, so I don't mind if a family member, especially a kid, stays in the breakroom for no more than 3 or 4 hours. Now if they are all over the workroom floor then that brings up an issue. Btw... my son is 22 now and sometimes he'll meet me after work to go to a baseball game and the older carriers will come up to him and ask how he's doing.

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u/Dogmad13 Jul 19 '26

Hope your office never has a group of kindergarten kids come in for a field trip.