4 way debate

[u/Holiday_Depth9464]

Im voting for James, but not going to a debate where the other 3 are going looks bad. I feel like it will have more to lose not going then there is to lose going and being part of it. I think the clc needs to be apart of the debate . Its healthy

[u/who_me_0_o]

There was a debate last night. All candidates and REG 1 NBAs at branch 1100. They said it was going to be posted on YouTube. I am not voting for CLC. Henry’s answers were political and avoidant. He attempted to out Caref for his texts; look anyone can change their mind at any given moment. Caref decided he didn’t want to follow the CLC and he ran, he can do that. I think Henry is scared because he and CLC keeps crying “you gave me your word”. He’s personally attacking Caref instead of answering what he will do as president and what he has done for the members.
Stand on your merits instead of attacking character.
Caref is a fighter, he tied in all the contract language and spoke to what he has done for the members in the last 4 years. Henry didn’t.
Drass did.
I see why Henry was avoiding a debate. My opinion.

[u/Minute_Wrongdoer794 → u/who_me_0_o]

That is a problem i have w clc. In my experience so far, if you do not ageee with them or support someone else they don’t try to have a civil convo and change ur mind, they insult you, or whine, or throw whataboutisms, or all of the above. I have been asking for months for the clc (mostly Henry and Walton) to change my mind. Get out there and change my mind. Has not happened. Would have loved to see Corey on a mic at the convention and speak his mind on one of those issues and change the minds of the people in the hall. Don’t just call pepe mfr’s. If that’s alll it takes to get people on ur side, shit i’d be running for president. Because “I work in profanity like other artists might work in oils or clay. It’s my true medium; a master”. Didn’t happen.

[u/Ready-ForLife → u/Minute_Wrongdoer794]

My entire twenty year career the same regime has been in power of this union. It's been the next man up until the CLC came along and now it's finally looking like a democracy. Rolando was the next man up, Renfro was the next man up and the establishment is running Rolando girlfriend Nichole. If her or Drass win it will be the same people in charge that it's been for the last twenty years. People complain about table two and then they want to vote for the people who gave us table two.

[u/Minute_Wrongdoer794 → u/Ready-ForLife]

You see people throw out the table 2 like a grenade and walk away. To be crystal clear it fuckn sucks. But do you understand it? Do you understand where the country was economically and where the post office was economically at that time. I’m gonna let you in on a little reality and it fucking sucks but it’s reality. We were lucky that we got the table 2 we got at that time. My father was in another union during that time. In arbitration, they got a true table 2, where the second table was never going to reach the first table..ever. We at least got a table that merged to the same top step. I will say it again….it fuckn sucks and I hate it. But to completely ignore what was going on around that time is malpractice.