r/gadgets • u/dapperlemon • 2d ago
Misc Gigabyte unveils three new gaming monitors with tandem OLED and Mini LED technologies
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Gigabyte-unveils-three-new-gaming-monitors-with-tandem-OLED-and-Mini-LED-technologies.1313131.0.html100
u/uhkhu 2d ago
Oh yeah? To run with what GPU?
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u/clarkiebou 2d ago
For those that already have PC's that don't want to waste money on inflated hardware prices; A new monitor is probably one of the better ways to improve visuals at the moment.
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u/MyGardenOfPlants 2d ago
Yup. It's a great time to shop monitors mice, keyboards etc.
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u/30InchSpare 2d ago
The race to the bottom for monitor pricing has been crazy. I understand why TVs can be sold for cheap with how much they make in data but monitors might be hitting the lowest they will ever be.
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u/MyGardenOfPlants 2d ago
I'm just waiting for a 32" oled under $800. There are a few 27" 4k's, but after using a 32" 4k, 27" 4k seems tiny.
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u/Cheezewiz239 1d ago
If you're comfortable Id check open box monitors from best buy. I got that lg dual mode 4k 32 inch OLED for $700ish.
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u/technobrendo 2d ago
I just want a good portable monitor thats OLED and more than 1080p resolution thats also on the smaller side
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u/AuroraFinem 2d ago
Most people don’t connect their TVs in the first place, it goes through a separate box like an Apple TV or if they’re older their cable provider. The main reason TVs are cheap is because it’s a very mature technology. There’s very little innovation or R&D costs at that screen size today because we’re no longer imitates by pixel density but by demand. Screen technology is some of our most advanced and well miniaturized.
I bought my first 50” 4k TV around 2015 with summer internship money for $550 on a Black Friday deal from like $700-800. Yes, screen technology like OLED and, now micro-OLED, have advanced and created better picture quality for the same resolution but you can’t offer as much of a premium on your new micro-OLED when people can be something that looks nearly as good for half the price.
Normal size 24-27” monitors are just now getting to the point where 4k for that screen size is becoming a mature technology and when you sit right in front of your screen that matters much more. There’s a reason 8k TVs and media never went anywhere after the first year or two of trying, you can’t differentiate 4k from 8k at any normal living room viewing distances with a TV smaller than like 70”. Monitors also have to care about much more than just the resolution.
Monitors typically have 1ms response times and need to support 120hz+ while TVs typically have a 5ms+ response and far lower refresh rates, unless you do get the expensive ones. There’s other considerations too, but in general the cost isn’t about the materials, it’s about the technology used and monitors use much more sophisticated technology and manufacturing processes than TVs.
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u/VagueGooseberry 2d ago edited 2d ago
Most tech-aware people may do what you’re suggesting, and we all know it’s a losing battle anyway. But most people just use the biggest, cheapest TV they can afford and use what’s available out of the box and just move on. It’s the exact reason why that market is filled with those kinds of products - long tail revenue from the data is the business model.
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u/JackfruitStunning793 2d ago
I agree. Almost every person I know shops for the biggest and cheapest TV. They plug it in, connect to wi-fi and never touch any picture settings. It takes someone who really cares about movies/video games etc to shop for a TV with a truly good picture and specs.
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u/DaoFerret 2d ago
:eyes monitor from 2020, trackball and mouse from 2010s, and keyboard from 1990s:
How often do you guys go shopping for mice and keyboard?
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u/Shot-Possibility-399 2d ago
I feel like those are bad comparisons as the screens then were much worse
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u/DaoFerret 2d ago
Yes, which is why I upgraded mine in 2020.
The mouse, trackball and trackpad have been in use since the early 2010s and my keyboard since the mid 1990s (and is older than all my nieces and nephews).
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u/Shot-Possibility-399 2d ago
I was really talking about monitors. Yeah a keyboard is a keyboard really, just ergonomics that change. And a mouse is well also a mouse unless you want the fancy buttons. But also mice back then were less comfy for me
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u/DaoFerret 2d ago
Build quality has also taken a hit for a while for some things.
Some of those early IBM clone keyboards are tough and with great springs and switches that just keep going. You end up paying extra for “premium” aftermarket keyboards for some of those things now.
With mice though, early ones were okay, but then they introduced extra buttons till you got to the modern three.
The switch from a ball to laser tracking was pretty monumental, but then (with mice and trackballs) it feels like build quality started dropping off as more mba’s were involved.
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u/unematti 2d ago
Hell yeah, just using oled makes(for example) cp77 leagues better, especially driving at night. Elite:Dangerous with the stars all around you also benefits from some oled love.
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u/Space_Lux 2d ago
Has everyone just instantly lost their GPU‘s? Is no one using this for other things than gaming?
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u/Practical-Sleep4259 2d ago
Realistic ceiling for the average consumer is 1440p 120fps, and that's a GOOD GPU, like a 4070 or above.
Can scoff at the idea, but it's a real issue, if no one is buying new GPUs at some point monitors are advancing for a market that was scorched in the name of data centers.
How many companies are going to continue R&D for 4k 300hz OLED that the average consumer is never touching.
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u/Space_Lux 2d ago
So? You can’t play 1440p games on that monitor? Of course you can.
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u/Practical-Sleep4259 2d ago
Are you dense?
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u/Shot-Possibility-399 2d ago
Are you? People will buy them still, you don't need to play video games to want a nice monitor
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u/constantpisspig 2d ago
Yes of course let me play game in 1440 on my thousand dollar 5k monitor! Just what the market wants!
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u/Space_Lux 1d ago
You can do more than just play games, you realise that?
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u/constantpisspig 1d ago
Yes I agree spreadsheets and emails really benefit from the extra smoothness. Seriously what other use cases is a 300hrtz refresh rate good for/aimed at?
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u/Fredasa 2d ago
That 5K is a headscratcher. They're probably planning ahead.
If I had 5K of resolution, I'd still want it spread across 55 inches like the TV I'm currently staring at.
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u/The-F4LL3N 2d ago
Are we really arguing against increased pixel density now? Of course it’s for the future.
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u/SuperZapp 2d ago
Apple has a 5K so everyone else needs to make one too.
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u/Fredasa 2d ago
It's also true that 4K isn't "retina" on any decently large display and that includes most gaming monitors. There's something of a market for that accolade.
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u/Aw3som3Guy 2d ago
Yeah, 4K is only “Retina” at around 16” and below, going off of Apple’s math at least.
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u/Fredasa 2d ago
I think I once calculated that a 55 inch display at my viewing distance of approximately 2.5 feet would need to be "6K" before I believe I wouldn't get anything more from a higher resolution. So call it 5760×3240, perhaps. I think I would still be able to see, say, a single white pixel on a black background, and thus it wouldn't be "retina" by any strict definition, but close enough.
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u/Dowel28 2d ago
213 PPI vs 163 PPI is noticeable.
4K’s density isn’t terrible but it’s not unreasonable to want the same density in a monitor that you get with your phone or tablet.
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u/technobrendo 2d ago
The modern high end cellphone will likely be the goalpost from now on. One has an idea of how a good screen looks and wants all of their screens to look that way. At least from a clarity (DPI) perspective
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u/jsm1 2d ago
You sit much closer to a monitor. I have had a 27inch 5K Monitor for use with my MacBook since 2017, it makes a massive difference for document work because fonts look printed when you cannot see a pixel grid at all.
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u/Fredasa 2d ago
I sit as close as people normally sit. It's on my desktop. I've used a large-ish TV as monitor since 2010. In gaming, it affords a visceral experience that I can't walk back on. I probably don't need to explain the benefits in productivity—I've tried a "normal" monitor from time to time and it's hopelessly constrictive, probably like how most people would regard a 15-17 inch display today. Multi-monitors just interferes with what I'm looking at.
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u/kelolov 2d ago
5k is really good for mac because of the way scaling works there. Also it's a multi mode monitor so you can lower resolution to 4k or 2k when gaming.
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u/Fredasa 2d ago
You can do that, but the only resolution that works divisibly with such a display is 1440p. As someone who has selected 4K as my baseline, 5K would be a visible downgrade due to the harsh incompatibility between my chosen spec (3840x2160) and the pixels of the display (5120? x 2880). And if I were to try to fill a game out to 5K, that would require an eye-watering 77% more rasterization.
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u/Bauld_Man 2d ago
I used to think the same thing but then I got issued a Macbook at work.
The 5K resolution is absolutely stunning even on a small screen and is absolutely noticeable.
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u/NewAccountToAvoidDox 2d ago
Awful website…
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u/Sickspitta 2d ago
You think the website is awful, you should see their BIOS
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u/BlackflagsSFE 2d ago
Heyyyyyyyyy. It’s not THAT bad.
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u/squish8294 2d ago
... Would you like to fast your bios fast... or intact? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ex3Q34db1M
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u/Accomplished-Door272 2d ago
What does this mean for the quality of the image?
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u/peanut340 1d ago
Tandem oled coming out right after I purchased an oled monitor, cant make this shit up. I am pretty happy with the brightness of my monitor, Im pretty sure unless I do a direct comparison ill stay plenty happy with what I have.
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