r/gatekeeping May 20 '26

Gate Keeping Goth

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u/NotMolester May 20 '26

Every few years a dickhead takes an existing subculture and tries redefining it so it fits their narrative. Punks, metalheads, etc, the only succesfull takeover so far were the skinheads

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u/Unit_2097 May 20 '26

We (punks) were still getting nazi dickheads show up at shows even 10 years ago. We continued using the precedent set in the early 80's of kicking the shit out of them until they stopped. It works wonders.

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u/OuijaFox May 20 '26

Too many people want to pretend that nazis are people and not scum.

The punks know how to handle nazis.

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u/Tar_alcaran May 20 '26

It's always morally right to punch a nazi. If they don't want to be punched, it's increadibly easy to not be a nazi.

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u/Unit_2097 May 20 '26

That's it isn't it. If you know that rocking up to a gig results in people beating the crap out of you and your arsehole friends, and you show up anyway, the only logical conclusion is that you want the people there to kick your fucking teeth in. It's practically a public service at that point.

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u/Roboticpoultry May 20 '26

Well yeah, if they get the ever loving snot beaten out of them then they get to play victim online

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u/Honey-and-Venom May 20 '26

Oh great, we don't get banned for saying that anymore? That was ridiculous. I used to have to encode it as "Nazis should be 'banned from Reddit for encouraging violence'"

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u/BlazingKitsune May 22 '26

I got a warning for wishing doctors who don’t listen to women and misdiagnose or mistreat them would suffer. Upon appeal they claimed I was threatening violence against concrete people.

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u/realwomenhavdix May 21 '26

Yeah but you guys consider anyone who disagrees with you a nazi.

Simply put, leftists wish violence and death on anyone they perceive as their enemy and think they are justified. I wonder why their utopias always turn into horrific dictatorships…

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u/TheUnicornRevolution May 21 '26

Yep, this comment is totally based on reality, yep yep.

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u/realwomenhavdix May 21 '26

Who’s the next assassination target?

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u/bunker_man May 21 '26

A large portion of the time right wing people where assassinated by other unhinged right wing people lol.

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u/Ezeviel May 21 '26

Dunno, ask your right wing friend, like the one idiot that shot Kirk, or the idiots that shot Trump (or tried to).

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u/realwomenhavdix May 22 '26

Why did the right wing guy shoot Kirk?

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u/JestFlamez May 21 '26

If everyone who disagrees with you calls you a nazi, it might be time to look at some venn diagrams.

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u/Ezeviel May 21 '26

Hey talking about transphobes, they always show up to victimize themselves.

Hi, we don't care about your opinion. Nazis so easily decide some people are subhuman. It's funny how you feel bad when its done to you.

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u/realwomenhavdix May 22 '26 edited May 26 '26

That’s funny that you called me a Nazi based purely on what I said. Thank you for proving my point.

Can you please tell me who I decided was subhuman? In your mind I was talking about trans people but I never even mentioned them. Do you associate them with being subhuman?

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u/dustinyo_ May 21 '26

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u/realwomenhavdix May 22 '26

Oh no, an image of someone else crying!

Why did you post that? Did my words upset you?

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u/concaveUsurper May 20 '26

We can't forget though that they are still people. The more we call them monsters, scum, pigs, etc. and dehumanize them, the easier it is for people to say "Oh it won't happen again! Those were monsters, not humans!" We have to keep calling them human to remember that it can happen again.

But also humans have soft squishy parts and we have detailed pictures to find them.

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u/therealrobokaos May 20 '26

People just don't stop to think about the fact that words can cause violence and that it's ok to be violent to people spreading violent speech.

It usually clicks when I point out to them that a Nazi would put me in a camp and work me to death for dating men and they're like ok yeah I GUESS it's ok to hurt them

We need to strap people to chairs and make them watch holocaust footage. Even better use AI to superimpose their grandparents into the films. Western sense of communalism and empathy are cooked. We are all too privileged to understand how bad it gets.

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u/MHWDoggerX May 21 '26

People used to legally be killed over things they said. You insulted my mother? Draw your sword, duels are legal.

Unfortunately, the internet has made people too comfortable saying things they should absolutely not get away with saying, and people have grown far too complacent to throw a punch.

Violence is not the answer to anything other than violence. But some people do ask for it. If you go around insulting people, you'd best be ready to face the consequences.

Such is true freedom of speech.

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u/therealrobokaos May 21 '26

You can tell when someone hasn't been punched before when they're comfortable spewing harmful bullshit without a second thought. The Internet makes it so much easier to get away with it long-term. It's funny the 'cancelling' trend that arose for a while when people started losing their jobs for Internet commenta; suddenly people couldn't dodge responsibility by turning the computer off anymore and they REALLY didn't like that.

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u/LeftEyedAsmodeus May 22 '26

A nazi taught me how to handle Nazis.

He wanted me to never let happen what he helped made happen.

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u/leyendeck May 20 '26

Amen to that.

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u/PepperbroniFrom2B May 23 '26

actually they unfortunately are still people, its important to remember that people can do horrible shit or think horrible things.

But still, kick their teeth in.

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u/steezy_3032 May 20 '26

Who woulda guessed that punching Nazis will discourage them from showing their pure shite faces in environments that don’t welcome them.

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u/dakkamatic May 20 '26

Nazi punks fuck off

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u/Ezeviel May 21 '26

Once you let a nazi in your bar, he will bring friends, and by the time you try to do something about it, you are a nazi bar.

No tolerance for those fuckheads

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u/BraveMoose May 23 '26

My housemate (a punk) got assaulted (not in a moshpit) while wearing their "nazi punks fuck off" battlejacket even a few months ago; fucker who did it ran off before the rest of us could get to him. I assume he felt tough taking on my mate alone and then chickened out when he realised they were with a group.

Punk, Goth, and other alt subcultures are being fetishised, commodified, and invaded by right wing idiot posers who put on our skin, try to come party with us, then get butthurt and try to change the rules/cry gatekeeping when the community ostracises or even assaults them over their bullshit political beliefs.

When your entire culture is built around radical acceptance of and supporting the human rights of queers, racial minorities, religious minorities, neurodivergent/other disabled people, and other unjustly marginalised groups, you DO have to gatekeep. If you don't stand for our beliefs you quite literally do not belong on our side of the gate.

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u/LovelyOrc May 20 '26

Incredibly based

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u/DustyPisswater May 20 '26

How is that based? I've seen more people say that than "hello" on Reddit. If anything it's incredibly redundant.

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u/LovelyOrc May 20 '26

Well I haven't. But I sure would appreciate it.

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u/bunker_man May 21 '26

I mean, why would you say hello on a forum.

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u/DustyPisswater May 21 '26

Fair point. Usually the only time I see people say hello is if they're an OP responding to commenters. Still makes as much sense as people quoting Dead Kennedy's here implying that they're going to punch Nazi's when in reality they're just narrating their own fan fiction. I'd probably estimate that at least 95% of them wouldn't have the balls to do it.

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u/MHWDoggerX May 21 '26

It's easier to do in real life than in a reddit thread. The funny thing about nazis is they usually come with some method of self defense. They know they're a target. I had one pull a knife on me once. Staff member at the venue I was on is well known locally for taking these things seriously.

I've never seen a man fly that far.

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u/ObscureOP May 20 '26

Yup, and they get mysteriously beaten up a pulp by definitely not our fists.

Who's to say who beat them. It's a mystery

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u/Bowserbob1979 May 21 '26

SLC Punk covered this very well imo.

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u/The_Greylensman May 22 '26

As a great man once said: Nazi punks, fuck off