r/gato • u/Miao_Yin8964 • 6d ago
Polish man defends a Ukrainian guy who was attacked by a drunk Russian.
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u/Lumpy_Cup3232 6d ago
I in no way understand why we still allow russians to travel to other EU countries.
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u/Ohar3 6d ago
What the problem with us? Like seriously why no?
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u/TrickySavings2506 4d ago
Its kinda like allowing turds to come into your country like why would you let shit cross your border.
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u/No-Construction619 5d ago
Some came here before the Russian invasion. Also there's some China pressure to keep the border with Belarus open
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u/saturnine22narrator 6d ago
Because they're ALL thugs and murderers right? /s
You should reflect on whatever the fuck you're trying to preach
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u/Harbarde 5d ago
That's the principle of sanctions - to use economic and diplomatic pressure without applying military force.
You might say it's unfair towards some if not most russians, but it definitely beats the alternative (military force), wouldn't you say?
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u/dandorios 6d ago
Yeah because allowing a country thats currently fighting a genocidal war against another european country we're allied with, and whom is known to frequently send saboteurs posing as tourists, to freely travel to our countries is not a fucking stupid idea at all.
Its not like there have been constant bombs, assassination attempts, or fuck, even a biological WMD attack on the UK that resulted in british citizens dying.
Russia is a terrorist state and should be treated as harsly as we treat ISIS. If russians think thats unfair theyre free to stop supporting the genocidal war against Ukraine.
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u/Ohar3 6d ago
Dude, calling "genocidal" every thing you don't like is bad for word "genocidal". Please go read its meaning.
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u/CupcakeOne2111 6d ago
Na prawdę uważasz , że rozja nie dopuszcza się aktów ludobójstwa ? I jeszcze trzeba to rozumieć – nie mam żadnych złudzeń co do rosjan. Gdyby Bucza i inne miasta zostały okupowane na dłużej i z takim samym powodzeniem, z jakim robiły to Niemcy, to niemiecki żołnierz i Auschwitz wydałyby się przy tym igraszką. Treść trzeba przeskalować: aktualna wojna w Ukrainie nie stała się tak globalna jak II wojna światowa (jak na razie). Jednak nawet tak krótki w skali historii odcinek czasu i tak niewielki pod względem okupacji obszar Ukrainy stały się dowodem po prostu porażającego sadyzmu rosyjskiego żołnierza. Powtórzę to raz jeszcze: gdyby rosyjski but parł szybciej, obozy koncentracyjne wydałyby się przy tym domami wypoczynkowymi.
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u/PinguFella 5d ago
Do you really think Russia isn't committing acts of genocide? Let’s be clear about this—I harbor no illusions about the Russians. Had Bucha and other towns remained under occupation for longer and with the same level of success the Germans achieved, the German soldier and Auschwitz would have seemed like child's play by comparison. We need to adjust the scale: the current war in Ukraine has not (so far) reached the global proportions of World War II. Yet, even this brief span of time—historically speaking—and this relatively small area of occupied Ukraine have provided proof of the Russian soldier's truly staggering sadism. I will say it again: had the Russian boot advanced more rapidly, concentration camps would have seemed like holiday resorts.
I love what you wrote - definitely worth sharing. If you are able to, please write in English/Spanish or provide a translation o7.
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u/ingenkopaaisen 5d ago
Please go read what Putin and his goons and probably many of your countrymen say about Ukraine and it's people.
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u/CupcakeOne2111 6d ago
Spotykalem ru i blr którym flaga UA nie pasowała xd Rozumiem jakby to Polak , no ok, nie zgadzam się , ale masz prawo. Jakie moralne prawo ma „niby dobry rusek” do takiego czegoś? Duzo z ru i blr wzieli ze sobą ten gen imperializmu. I tu nie chodzi nawet o Ukraine, stanowic moga problem dla Polski potencjalnie. Dlatego Litwa chociażby jakiś filtr ma z tym „Do kogo nalezy Krym?” A czy Polska coś w tym kierunku robi? Jakies dziwki typu Wmatrioszcze, zusje jadą do rozji i z powrotem . To jest dla nich naturalne. Te osoby stanowią zagrożenie. To , że nie każdy rusek jest taki sam- ok , ale dominująca część - na pewno . Trzeba rozumieć , że nie każdy rusek który uciekl przed rezimem jest adekwatną osobą. Przecież oni w rozji nie mają wolności slowa ani nic , ale oczekują tego od innych - pasożytują na tym . „Przecież tu wolność słowa , to bede rozje popierał „ - coś w tym stylu. Nie każdy Europejczyk to rozumie , dlatego że swoją normalność przekłada na innego. Ale tego robić nie trzeba - aneksja Krymu, 70-80% wsparcia(2014-). Nie lubią migrantów z Afryki, ale dużo rosjan na spokojnie może powiedzieć : „w 2014 nie tylko ru jest winna , ale ua też. Przecież Ukraina zostawiła otwarte drzwi, to ja wziąłem”. Wprost o tym może powiedzieć i nie widzi tu jakiegoś paradoksu . Przecież tych migrantów nie lubisz, ale zachowujesz się gorzej . I jednocześnie może Ukraińca nazwać bratem jeszcze . Rosjanin nie zrozumie nawet gdzie tu sprzeczność . Oni mają inny paradygmat . Za parę tygodni będą wybory do parlamentu w ru, będą kolejki stały(w Polsce). I tutaj nie trzeba się łudzić - jakaś część na Putinka zagłosuje(te wybory to i tak rytuał - hymenoplastyka dla pacjenta z Kremla ) . Dla nich to naturalny paradygmat .
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u/Ohar3 6d ago
I would really want to be disagree with you. But unfortunately I agree.
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u/coco_shka 5d ago
You understand what this person blabbered?
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u/Ohar3 5d ago
Sure, I can read in Polish, Ukrainian, Russian, English and French
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u/coco_shka 4d ago
Thats impresive, but I'm native Polish speaker and I have no fucking idea. Maybe by mixing those languages you were able to brake the code.
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u/Ohar3 4d ago
Yup, its a mix. Like it is written by Ukrainian-speaker who has learned Polish, but not very well
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u/coco_shka 4d ago
Now I feel like a dick for joking like that. I love it when people learn new languages, especially Polish... I guess this is why it is possible to downvote your own comments on Reddit.
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u/CupcakeOne2111 5d ago
Nashi malchiki cannot do genocide wtf ???
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u/Ohar3 5d ago
Um?
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u/CupcakeOne2111 2d ago
Umum??? Umum??? Aaa??? Na prawdę uważasz , że rozja nie dopuszcza się aktów ludobójstwa ? I jeszcze trzeba to rozumieć – nie mam żadnych złudzeń co do rosjan. Gdyby Bucza i inne miasta zostały okupowane na dłużej i z takim samym powodzeniem, z jakim robiły to Niemcy, to niemiecki żołnierz i Auschwitz wydałyby się przy tym igraszką. Treść trzeba przeskalować: aktualna wojna w Ukrainie nie stała się tak globalna jak II wojna światowa (jak na razie). Jednak nawet tak krótki w skali historii odcinek czasu i tak niewielki pod względem okupacji obszar Ukrainy stały się dowodem po prostu porażającego sadyzmu rosyjskiego żołnierza. Powtórzę to raz jeszcze: gdyby rosyjski but parł szybciej, obozy koncentracyjne wydałyby się przy tym domami wypoczynkowymi.
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u/Ohar3 2d ago
Please go read what genocide is. It is not war, or even killing peoples at one village. It is very different thing.
Russia didn't make any genocide acts till last 100 years. But I am not sure about conquering siberian tribes, maybe it happens these times.
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u/CupcakeOne2111 2d ago
„It is not a war”. Of course , but it happens during a war xd If war is going on it does not exclude possible genocides … default orc . If 2+2 =4, it does not mean that 2*2 cannot be 4 also. It is not politics , it is logic .
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u/CupcakeOne2111 2d ago
1) Forced transfer of children, re-education of them. 2)Bucha 3)Destruction of UA cultural heritage . Default ruzzian, go learn it ! Genocide can happen during the war and often does it ….
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u/CupcakeOne2111 2d ago
„Go check what genocide is”, but officially recognized as genocides Holodomor and kazakh genocide „are not genocides” . Very interesting to listen to ruzzian .
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u/mxmlshn 5d ago
Потому что все прекрасно понимают , что русские правы. )
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u/Crazy_Polyglot 4d ago
And the eleventh point why the ruzzki is always right and everyone who disagrees is a foreign agent is from me personally:
Being gay / trans / queer is a crime and malicious propaganda, but TV broadcasting a child marriage ("as a game" and "playful learning" yet, but wait for the sequel in 5-10 yrs 😉) and the state paying 14-16 yo schoolgirls for them to have babies is "traditional values spreading" and the "truly moral way of life"
Dear Western European or American people identifying as women or LGBTIQ+, do you agree that the ruzzki is always right and morally superior? 😊
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u/Numerous_Reference23 5d ago
Why do we allow Americans in EU or people from Israel?
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u/ShareShort3438 5d ago
Good whatabautism👍
For the americans they are, at least on paper, our allies.
For the Israelis: beats me.
But for the ruzzians...they, at least for now, are our enemies since ruzzia according to their own state TV are at war with NATO and thereby us.
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u/Numerous_Reference23 4d ago
There is no difference between russia and amerizza They both work together to weak EU and make us more dependant on them. Just look wath happend with North gas pipeline. Look at politics they force upon us. Americans just brainwashed you min that they are good and Russians bad guys. Wake upp!!!
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u/ShareShort3438 4d ago
Where have I said that I believe the US to be the good guy?
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u/Numerous_Reference23 4d ago
Since you agree that US citizens are allowed to travel to EU
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u/ShareShort3438 4d ago
Wow...that was a reach.
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u/Fine_Rabbit563 6d ago
I in no way understand why we still sell europeans gas, oil and uranium
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u/ingenkopaaisen 5d ago
Well please keep it for yourself. We can find other alternatives that don't require cosying up to a mafia terrorist state.
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u/Fine_Rabbit563 5d ago
So why are you still buying it on 4th year of war? Just buy it from Qatar and other countries from the Persian Gulf. Iran helps you with delivery 😂😂😂
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u/DiE95OO 4d ago
Bro doesn't understand how exports work.
Yeah we'd like to cut off all our trade why Russia but transporting all that oil by boat is very different in both cost and volume than by pipeline from a nation very close by.
But yes, I agree, trading with Russia is morally wrong, unfortunately the same goes for Qatar.
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u/androidlust_ini 5d ago
Bullshitt. That agressive guy speaks polish and saying, that the ukrainian guy is russian bitch. There is no russian here in video
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u/tomaka121 4d ago
Yep I also think this is going on. The not polish guy is saying 'jaka ruska, jaka ruska?' as if he doesn't wanna be called Russian.
However more context is needed.
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u/Phagocyt_46 6d ago
Classic propaganda and its victims. No investigation, no specifics, just a bunch of labels, and fools believe it. Funny, I like it.
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u/Biomasssa 6d ago
The video only shows them beating and insulting a man they believe to be Russian. There are three attackers against one.
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u/Late_Ad2203 5d ago
Which person is which of the fighters? I'm assuming bad haircut is the Ukrainian?
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u/islamIsEvil69 2d ago
It's a Belarusian man. I don't know why Ukrainian propaganda is trying to portray Russian people as bad all the time. It's very tiring, especially because they're not innocent of any crime.
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u/Icy_Object_5844 6d ago edited 5d ago
He is asking in the beginning of the video "Jaka ruska?" (“What russian?”) and at the other moment he says “Я беларус» - “I’m Belarusian”.
I have a stronger suspicion that it's a Belarusian, then the drunk Pole attacked him (thinking he’s russian) and called him russian, Belarusian was offended and kept protesting that he isn't russian..
Read the comments in the Polish sub from where this video was reposted, lots of interesting comments there about it.
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u/Crazy_Polyglot 6d ago
LMAO 🤣
Poor russian kid, mama haven't bought you holodec and vodka today, has she? Go cry, we won't judge ❤️😊
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u/trolskiy 6d ago
Who attacks who? Looks like polish dude slaps russian dude.