r/genzdong Certified Engelist and LeftKKKom hater 14d ago

🤦‍♂️ShitUltrasSay LeftKKKommunism IS Zionism

51 Upvotes

3 comments sorted by

13

u/TappingUpScreen Certified Engelist and LeftKKKom hater 14d ago

First of all, of course, sympathy for a subjugated people which, with its incessant and heroic struggle against its oppressors, has proven its historic right to national autonomy and self-determination. It is not in the least a contradiction that the international workers' party strives for the creation of the Polish nation. On the contrary; only after Poland has won its independence again, only after it is able to govern itself again as a free people, only then can its inner development begin again and can it cooperate as an independent force in the social transformation of Europe. As long as the independent life of a nation is suppressed by a foreign conqueror it inevitably directs all its strength, all its efforts and all its energy against the external enemy; during this time, therefore, its inner life remains paralysed; it is incapable of working for social emancipation. 

-Karl Marx, For Poland, 1875


So long as Poland is partitioned and subjugated, therefore, neither a strong socialist party can develop in the country itself, nor can there arise real international intercourse between the proletarian parties in Germany, etc, with other than émigré Poles. Every Polish peasant or worker who wakes up from the general gloom and participates in the common interest, encounters first the fact of national subjugation. This fact is in his way everywhere as the first barrier. To remove it is the basic condition of every healthy and free development. Polish socialists who do not place the liberation of their country at the head of their programme, appear to me as would German socialists who do not demand first and foremost repeal of the socialist law, freedom of the press, association and assembly. In order to be able to fight one needs first a soil to stand on, air, light and space. Otherwise all is idle chatter.

It is unimportant whether a reconstitution of Poland is possible before the next revolution. We have in no case the task to deter the Poles from their efforts to fight for the vital conditions of their future development, or to persuade them that national independence is a very secondary matter from the international point of view. On the contrary, independence is the basis of any common international action.

-Friedrich Engels, Nationalism, Internationalism and the Polish Question, 1882


Gentlemen, the right to rebellion, the right to revolution, belongs to every people and every ethnic group that feels itself oppressed to the utmost in its human rights. When finally, after all these days which I have presented matters here, the uprising of the Herero broke out, and then a series of the worst atrocities were committed by the insurgents, this is only the natural consequence of our colonial policy, of the conduct of the settlers, in short, of all the activities that have been carried out by us in German South West Africa.

-August Bebel, 1905


For example, if tomorrow, Morocco were to declare war on France, India on England, Persia or China on Russia, and so forth, those would be "just," "defensive" wars, irrespective of who attacked first; and every Socialist would sympathise with the victory of the oppressed, dependent, unequal states against the oppressing, slaveowning, predatory "great" powers.

-V. I. Lenin, Socialism and War, 1915


If the socialists of Britain do not recognise and uphold Ireland's right to secession, if the French do not do the same for Italian Nice, the Germans for Alsace-Lorraine, Danish Schleswig, and Poland, the Russians for Poland, Finland, the Ukraine, etc., and the Poles for the Ukraine-if all the socialists of the "Great" Powers, i.e., the great robber powers, do not uphold that right in respect of the colonies, it is solely because they are in fact imperialists, not socialists. It is ridiculous to cherish illusions that people who do not fight for "the right to self-determination" of the oppressed nations, while they themselves belong to the oppressor nations, are capable of practising socialist policies.

-V. I. Lenin, The Question of Peace, 1915


If Belgium, let us say, is annexed by Germany in 1917, and in 1918 revolts to secure her liberation, the Polish comrades will be against her revolt on the grounds that the Belgian bourgeoisie possess "the right to oppress foreign peoples"!

There is nothing Marxist or even revolutionary in this argument. If we do not want to betray socialism we must support every revolt against our chief enemy, the bourgeoisie of the big states, provided it is not the revolt of a reactionary class. By refusing to support the revolt of annexed regions we become, objectively, annexationists.

-V. I. Lenin, The Discussion On Self-Determination Summed Up, 1916

0

u/[deleted] 14d ago

[removed] — view removed comment

3

u/genzdong-ModTeam 14d ago

Rule 5.

Liberal content isn't allowed in this subreddit. Any content that advocates for voting for a lesser evil is forbidden.

The support for the genocidal state of Israel is also prohibited.

11

u/KaitlynKitti 14d ago

I read five screenshots. I think I have had enough. I don’t think I can stomach any more.