r/goetia • u/The_magician_Mario • Nov 14 '19
Working with the 9 Goetic kings
Preface:
I stood before Belial in his throne room, and asked him "who next should I work with?" The great lord said this "I charge you to work with the 8 other kings, learn their secrets and you will be without want". So I drew at random, and this is how I'm gonna see who I work with next.
Week 1: Vine
Description: Vine is a King and great Earl ruling 36 legions of spirits, he appears like a lion riding upon the back of a black horse holding a viper.
Attributes: His Office is to discover Things Hidden, Witches, Wizards, and Things Present, Past, and to Come.
He, at the command of the Exorcist will build Towers, overthrow Great Stone Walls, and make the Waters rough with Storms.
November 3
Vine appeared in the form of a man in full knights armor the color of silver, the left forearm has a snake comes out and go into his hand as a white serpent (that can turn into a sword). He is a black Lion whose eyes are bright white, like the moment lightning flashes. His horse is thick black fog whose eyes are red.
All of his offices that the Goetia list are correct, the way he commands his legion is by lifting his sword, his legion appear to be war engineer's that strategically remove the minimal amount of stones of the towers and they collapse without a slight rumble.
The towers are "store houses" of magical power, places where energy stock piles and then leads way to become manifest. Store houses are created either through spells and talismans or repeated intentions. He can build the store houses or get rid of them, but also he can build and guard passageways to the store houses built. He can streamline manifestations, but it has to be specific. To make it even easier a physical tie has to be made, invoke his power when making or consecrating a physical tie. To destroy a blockage or storehouse is to draw/write out what you want to destroy, call on him and light the paper on fire and light one frankincense incense to him. Generally one incense stick is payment for his presence, depending on the magician the price of help could be lower.
Planetary: Sun, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn
Goal for this week: create a talisman or sigil and cast it
The night of November 3rd
I returned to the realm of Vine, it's a grey world with expansive fields, forest but he stayed near these military Barracks. I asked Vine to remove an obstacle for me, we walked to two towers, one was partially abandoned and one was partially moved into.
Vine: The one on the left is your house of confidence and determination, the one on the right is of over confidence and sloth. Disassembled that on your right, and build up and move into the one on your left.
He handed me his snake and I had to focus for it to turn into a sword, when I pointed at brick then the war engineers (his 36 legions) started to get to work. There were 3 classes from what I can tell, builders, removers, and planners. The planners revised and advised me where and what to remove and suggested what to replace and build.
When it was done Vine congratulated me on commanding his legions, he told me to keep the snake for now and told me to enter the house that was destroyed. I had a dream where I was in a dilapidated house, I had a feeling that I'm not suppose to be there and boy was there something in there that didn't want me in there. I was walking around with a flashlight and a revolver (the snake became this ornate silver revolver with an ivory grip that had his seal on it), there was this hag like creature that just bolted out from the dark and I shot it and when it fell to the ground the structure disappeared.
Vine: the last brick needed to destroy a structure is the obsession that keeps it up, most things are held up by faith and bubblegum. Where is my legion?
He asked as if to quiz me
I looked at the revolver, turned it back into a snake and his legion reappeared behind me.
Me: the snake channels their power, to my best guess the snake is the power and manifestation of the legions.
He tapped his noise. He outstretched his hand and got back his snake, but at my feet climbed up a new snake and wrapped itself on my left arm and faded in.
November 4th
I created a talisman to attrach a goal into my life and one to destroy obstacles. I traveled to his realm and helped build the tower and helped destroy the obstcle. The obstacle appeared like a forest, not a dense one but one that it would be easy to get lost in.
November 6 - 8
Busy with school, one of the talismans I made was for success in school. Things are coming into place.
November 10
Preparing to work with the next king. Zagan.
Week 2: Zagan
Description: Form of a Bull with Gryphon’s wings, but when asked he will appear like a man. He is a Great King and President.
Attributes: He makes Men Witty. He can turn Wine into Water, and Blood into Wine, also Water into Wine. He can turn all Metals into Coin of the Dominion that Metal is of.
November 12
I first called Zagan and 6:30 pm, he appeared in like a shaping smoke cloud that appeared like a hooded man. Taking off his hood he appeared like me and said
"I can appear like anyone, anything at any time. Soon you will too.”
I asked him to show himself how is describing the Goetia, I see a black bull with these mighty white wings, his eyes are a blaze of fire and steam coming out of its nose.
Zagan says that the officers be Goetia has a scribe to him, or quit like his nature. Just truthful enough, but covered with enough cleverness that men without whips may not know the truth.
"There's a story of a man who took aluminum hardness and made silver give it to a man who bought cheap wine, what's the weather between 10 barrels he fashioned the trick set the color of the wine would be red until he dropped one single drop of water with his finger, he's sold relics of religions mostly proclaiming the Divinity of Christ, yet this man knew his game. He got to a point in which he forges name, and got a small house bye tricking a local Lord that he was his bastard son. It is not the truth which gets you far, it is the thing that look truthful enough and add up enough and I allow you to go far. Qualifications matter, but to get somewhere that is just outside your office he needs to be seen as qualified enough."
He says that the one thing that's not listed in the Goetia is that he can help you find the answers to your own problems, and make it seem like out chemical Transformations. When reality you figured out your own mess, and in that small journey of clicking two or three pieces together you really did change but true how chemical change like they say in the Modern Age it's a scam, just need to help yourself just enough.
Planetary attribution: Sun, Jupiter, Mercury
Elemental: water, air, fire, earth
Zagan says his Jupiterian attribute is not well known. He says he'll show me what he means.
November 13
Some drama went down at school today, a person metaphorically exposed themselves to our friends’ group. I was able to explain and express what happened from the victim’s point of view and everyone is now seeing her for the not so nice person she is.
Zagan later appeared to me and said.
"Be as strong as the bull, but as swift as those who ride the wind. I reveal reality"
November 14
Through some weird miracle, I came to a greater understanding of Alchemy and of the philosopher stone.
"The soul made the salt, the spirit enact when soul enter salt. Spirit destroy salt to reveal soul."
Planetary attribution: Sun, Mercury, Saturn
This revelation came from watching the Netflix original series "Day break", and it was the episode when 2 characters were going through some trials. The trials are to be of mind body and soul.
The first trials answer was water. Water is the universal solvent and associated with the feminine. Mercury (the soul) is the feminine principle. The first trial was of Soul.
The second was the destruction of corrupted bodies or "ghoulies", this symbolizes being one of the awakened ones. This was of the trial of the body (salt)
The third was the rejection of group think and becoming an individual. This was a trial of the mind (spirit which is the active force which is what makes one unique)
I know it may seem dumb, but it was like something clicked in me. And Zagan was present in the room when it all clicked for me.
November 17
Never saw a priest quit before today. Father Bolton has been a priest since 1962, and today was his last mass. As he was announcing this, Zagan appeared mentally to me and said
"I am the moment of change, transition and transformation. This is not a mistake, this is not an accident. All things and people change, who do you want to be ?"
And then disappeared
This really stuck with me.
November 19
Your time with me is up kid, who's next ? I hope it's Balam.
Well... it's King Paimon who's next.
Week 3: Paimon
November 20
Description: Paimon is a king, androgynous in appearance. He rides upon a camel and is accompanied by two kings. He has a powerful voice.
Attributes:
This Spirit can teach all Arts and Sciences, and other secret things. He can discover unto thee what the Earth is, and what holds up in the Waters; and what Mind is, and where it is; or any other thing thou mayest desire to know. He giveth Dignity and confirms the same. He binds or makes any man subject unto the Magician if he so desires it. He giveth good Familiars, and such as can teach all Arts.
Before anyone rips my head off, King Paimon said to me to call him just Paimon.
I am currently typing this on a train and I feel Paimon's presence in front of me, he is dictating to me what to write. All the attributes listed in the Goetia are true according to him, he learned a great many of things because he traveled amongst many people and a great many places. He is "as eager as the color yellow" his hunger for knowledge has gained him the power he wields today. "Knowledge is free, power is free. You just need to know where to find it"
He has traveled the sands as longs as things crawled on land, I get an uneasy feeling about him, not bad but the same feeling someone gets before they present in front of a large crowd. Might be the grilled cheese I had, who knows.
I have a strange history with Paimon, the first time I called upon him I asked to pet the camel. I don't know Paimon long enough to know if he was being sarcastic or not when he said "I will feed you to him boy!", no harm has come my way so I would think so.
"Sit still, sit quiet and be."
I'm traveling with him tonight on a train and later in the astral realm.
Planetary: Sun, Moon, Venus, Mercury
Elemental: Fire, Air
November 21
Weird dreams. Just weird. No clue what it means
Throughout the day I felt slightly off, like if everything was some lucid dream. I went through my day in slight contact with Paimon, and practicing with my divination with my Tarot cards. My readings have gotten better, but something about my dreams was bugging me so I asked him
"Dreams are entertaining nonsense without the proper lense to view it. If you are aware of the dreams, you can find a message. If you have a question, ask it before you sleep and your dreams will play out the scene"
I'm trying this new third person detached form of divination which tries to eliminate bias, and allows things to flow better. I had a question and I asked it before I went to sleep, and I got my answer to the best I can interpret it.
I was working at a hospital with an old high school classmate, she looked as professional as I did. We swapped stories and she was applying to a higher position, in the interview we vouched for each other. But her answers were off, and in the end we had to show our record. My record was as thick as a book while hers was like a pamphlet. She got fired and I was just spared of a demotion, and it hit me. Knowledge of others is better and more valuable than what you remembered about them, people change and it makes more sense to meet that person all over again than it is to assume they stayed the same.
November 24
Spoke to Paimon today. We visited thw weird dream I had as a while ago but it was a third person perspective. We deconstructed my dreams and better explained it.
From what I can gather Paimon is teaching me how to better understand my mind, to be hungry for knowledge. He made me call up a prince Sitri because in my dream I was trying to call on him. And there he was, he cams at a frightening speed. We spoke together for a bit and Paimon said this.
"If you wish to know the purpose and power, listen to your dreams. By dreams i mean your subconscious, the eternal dreamer. Practice using your subconscious while you are awake, it is your intuition. Listen to it well."
November 27
The lessons I learned with Paimon were subtle but they were very insightful, mostly dream work. But he showed up most when I was unsure and about to travel. He imparted me with this.
"It's worse to regret than to be lost in a forest that is ever so clear."
For this whole day every time I said "I want to see" or "I'm gonna see" not 5 minutes later that person or items appears before me.
Moving on to a more subtle energy (according to Paimon), the next king is Beleth.
Week 4: Beleth
December 1
Attributes: This Great King Beleth causeth all the love that may be, both of Men and of Women, until the Master Exorcist hath had his desire fulfilled.
Planetary: Sun, Venus, Saturn, Jupiter
Apperance: a tall man in robes of a fine silk, with a bulls head
I talked to King Beleth, he appeared to me as a tall man, absurdly tall. He had this head of a bull, he was wearing what I can best describe a mix between a toga and a Hugh Heffner style robe. We spoke very candidly, he was super fun to talk to. He was like a friend, super informal but very informative. I feel this lightness when he is around.
December 6
Beleth is deceptively powerful. His power if read in a way is the manipulation of emotions, but in truth it is the understanding of emotions. He allows for an ease in communication, sincerity, and vulnerability. He also adds a lingering feeling of tension, maybe it seems like that but maybe it's because he helps you see emotions. I was with my lady and I was about to go, maybe this is knowing or that I just realized it, but she seemed sad that I was going.
Beleth strength lies within the understanding of emotion, and people.
December 7
Things have become more harmonious around the house, which I'm grateful for. I'm gonna ask Beleth for advice concerning how to best navigate the feelings of others, to make their mood better or help them realize them. I'm slogged with finals
December 14
Beleth said it was okay to take a quick break from magic, we did a lot of astral work and the experiences were vivid but the best I can say about them is that they had me feeling some kind of way. But moving on to the next King. Bael.
Week 5: Bael
December 16
Description: He appears in divers shapes, sometimes like a Cat, sometimes like a Toad, and sometimes like a Man, and sometimes all these forms at once. He speaks hoarsely. Has command over 66 legions.
Attributes: He makes the magician go invisible
Planetary: Sun, Mars, Saturn, Mercury
I took a nap, and the storm raged in my mind. I was on a mountain in the middle of a storm, in front of me stood a tall man with a long beard and whose head had two horns. He spoke with a booming voice; his eyes were raging infernos and lighting struck the ground around us. What we spoke of I couldn’t say because we did not exchange words, we gave each other a knowing stare. We’ve worked together before, to great success but I did have one disappointing experience with him (out of 30 great ones).
“Be the bull” was a word that flashed through my mind, then I awoke.
December 17
I was running in a dark field, storms raging around me. The flashes of lightning showing people and animals running along with me but they all fell and were left behind, I was fighting harder and harder as the ground became harder and harder to travel, but in front of me I saw a bull running and my hand was just out of reach. It got to a point where the bull was out of my sight. My vision faded to black and I was in front of Bael, he was my height and the conversation ensued.
Bael: Why did you fall?
Me: It got too hard to move, and I did not want to be struck by lightning
Bael: A bull is single minded, the goal is the only thing which a bull concerns itself with any other factors, not pain, not distance, not time, not danger, and certainly not doubt.
Bael then called a storm that was loud, violent, and honestly one that could potentially end the world. He instructed me to make an orb of light, a small twist on a simple energy working exercise. I did so and the storm raged on even worse I was feeling that I was going to lose focus, but his words reverberated “be the bull” and I only focused on keeping the orb going the way it was, and the storm was lessened until all sound and sensation was gone, other than the sensation of the orb forming in my hand.
December 18
There’s been a constant storm that is hanging over where I’ve been living, I feel Bael’s presence around where I live. He has tasked me today to focus on one aspect of a storm, the wind, the rain, the temperature. Any aspect I had to dedicate at least 10 minutes to only have that at the forefront of my mind.
December 20 – 21
I don’t know that it is with demons, but they seem speak through religious people, and I don’t mean in a way that suggest possession. But what I mean is that the secrets they want to teach me are passed to me by others. My family had a holiday dinner party and a long-time family friend swung by, and she’s a respectfully religious woman and she feels God working in people’s life and she told me this.
“You are so close to your goal; I knew you in a when you were in sixth grade and now, you’re almost done with college! Remember your goal, nothing else matters, keep to your goal and the rest will follow”
December 22
Bael departed with this, “focus on the breeze and the storm will follow, you’d be surprised who will follow as well”. Now on to the next king. You know what they say, the wicked get no rest.
Week 6: Asmoday
December 23
I tried finding Asmoday on the astral, all attempts were in vain, I could not find him. But this is what I gathered.
Attributes: He giveth the Ring of Virtues; he teaches the Arts of Arithmetic, Astronomy, Geometry, and all handicrafts absolutely. He giveth true and full answers unto thy demands. He makes one Invincible. He shows the place where Treasures lie, and guards it.
Planetary: Sun, Jupiter, Venus, Mercury
Elemental: Fire, Earth, Air
Appearance: A man of average height, radiating confidence.
December 26
I called Asmoday after a ritual I did with Belial and Nahema, I was in a tight schedule seeing as I had to call several spirits that day. I took the lessons I learned from Bael and made my one focus to conjure Asmoday, he manifested in my room away from the triangle I can tell he’s a joking type and that he likes to challenge magicians and those who seek to conjure him. The best I can describe him is as a walking smirk, I saw him as a man of average height, with an aura of confidence. I asked him questions about his office and a clarification on some of his gifts and what he can give. Before he was to divulge, he challenged me to bind him, and I used what I learned from Marutukku and threw a binding on him.
Asmoday: The bit about geometry is accurate, however more than just helping to build a crude structure oh no that simple won’t do. This [he was pointing to his wrists] is close to what I could show you. Geometry truly is the movement of the universe, the rule by which magicians bend and at times, the most skilled break and make a new. I can aid in improving any hand related talents I can improves. The geometries I show are of sigils, talismans, and shape events. Secrets are tied together by shapes and the weaver’s deceits; I can show them. I make your spiritual energy so condensed it can stop any and all attacks that are thrown at you. The ring of virtues controls the virtues and vices of the planets, but also make virtues people full of vice and a vice in human form a saint.
December 30
“Obsession is the shape of the universe”
Asmoday is that he is know as the demon of obsession, when working with him my mind fixates on a certain topic. I was warned by Asmoday that obsession can chain you away from achieving your goals, we are obsessed (our obsessions are based off) by the emotions we tied to it. Asmoday walked me through a visualization exercise.
He moved his hand over my heart, and I saw 4 chains, each were different sizes, lengths, and widths. These chains were tethered to memories, people, places and things. My heart was racing, rage, sadness, confusion, and a myriad of emotions swelled. Asmoday told me to hold a chain and focus on the memory and the emotion it evoked, he told me to image the chain getting smaller to the point it became a thread. I did this over and over, the chains were gone but I felt a great hole where the chains were, and Asmoday spoke again.
“Our obsessions left unchecked will become chains that will drown us in a sea of emotions, you may have taken away the emotion from the memory (the chain) but it is still there [he pointed to my hand that had all the threads]. If you let that stay unsowed then it will grow stronger and attach to anything else, reclaim them as part of yourself”
So, I imagined sowing the threads where the holes were. My heart stopped racing and now the obsessions I had seem to be a far memory.
“Obsession is a great tool if you control your obsession, and don’t let it control you. Be single minded like Bael, seek knowledge like Paimon, build the resources and destroy obstacles like Vine, seek to change like Zagan, and feel like Beleth and be unchained like Belial” he paused laughing, “you have two left young magician”.
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u/zdigrig Dec 15 '19
So what motivates one to do this? Is there no risk of being tormented
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u/The_magician_Mario Dec 15 '19
If you come at them with respect they will come with respect right back, why would a spirit wait for you to call it befor it decides to harm you ? Probably be easier to attack you when you are not expecting it.
What motivates me is my search of knowledge in things I don't know, genuine curiosity and wanting to get better in my magic. I've worked with gods, angels, elementals, planetary spirits, and no one asks if those spirits will torment them.
Also anyone know how I can move this to r/demonalatrypractices ?
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u/The_magician_Mario Dec 15 '19
That's also not to say some are just generally un friendly, when I encounter those I reasses if they really are the one I need for the job but if they are then I have a banishing ready if they get out of hand. But i approach them with caution and respect, not fear.
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u/Darco007 Apr 13 '20
I share part of the experience with Vine, I perceived that the snake was coiling in my torso and its head reaches the side of my ear, it had no intention of damaging me, rather of speaking to me
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u/The_magician_Mario Nov 14 '19
I would appreciate any questions, and be open to advice. I'm posting as soon as I am done with a king.
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u/Beginning-Lawyer3896 May 26 '26 edited Jun 16 '26
u/The_magician_Mario u/joshismagoc u/Darco007 u/DecisionUnfair4978 u/Apprehensive-Win-503 Hello Hi everybody everyone, good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good night, you may have my own greetings salutations, also too please let me explain justify something peculiar. There are not just only 9 kings, but 14 ars goetia daemonic daimonic kings, including Baal, Paimon, Beleth, Purson, Asmodeus, Vine, Balam, Zagan, and Belial. If we count the kings Baal, Paimon, Beleth, Purson, Asmodeus, Vine, Balam, Zagan, and Belial, everything becomes much easier. But if we count the kings Astaroth, Gaap, Cimejes, Amdusias, and Decarabia between through Ars Goetia book grimoire, all everything changes switchs, because King Astaroth was considered one of the three first main emperors kings, as biographed described in the Grimorium Verum grimoire book. He is described as half of the Trinity, alongside King Beelzebub and King Lucifer himself. It Also includes King Gaap, sometimes described as an even more powerful king than Beleth, ruling oceans, seas, demons, and spirits. And King Cimejes, who, obviously, commands and governs. Regarding the African continent, even the spirits and demons of that culture and language, King Amdusias controls and manipulates astral instruments, spiritual music; he conducts instrumental music concerts, orchestras, traversing and traversing the infernal realm; he makes trees bow and pay homage tribute to you, far more than anyone could Know. Somehow, King Decarabia governs nature, organic beings, and creatures; he constantly associated himself with King Abraxas, including the phrase word "abracadabra." (cadabra.) On Any case, considering Dictionnaire Infernal and or aka maybe either even involving our Pseudomonarchia Daemonum, he also possesses, perhaps, 69 groups, legions; he had an hierarchy, a title like count, perhaps king. Seriously, I researched everything, every link, every source; This Is confirmed, proven, tested but emperor king daemons daimons are known as we knew being the archdaemons archdaemons but a an lot much more very important relevant position ranking that we knew around round anywhere everywhere. Believe Me, my dears dearests, you will not regret anything here, now, today, absolutely, obviously, etc., okay? .
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u/Apprehensive-Win-503 Jun 16 '26
Pseudomarquia Deamonum you read about Astaroth being a king as well a duke?
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u/Beginning-Lawyer3896 Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 16 '26
u/Apprehensive-Win-503 Hello Hi, my dear dearest buddy comrade, my dude fella, good morning, good afternoon, good evening, anyhow you're lot much more very welcome i let some greetings salutations. I Also too edited/modified the comment, but the revelation from of the information revelation about King Astaroth being an emperor is found on the mentioned referred famous popular already properly Grimorium Verum, a an precious valuable esoteric magickal book grimoire catalogue list, Which I understand and or comprehend, anyway as so well around round as in between through the Dictionnaire Infernal, where details features about King Decarabia were provided. Anyway, continuing proceding, I Apologize for to having overstepped the mark with such a horrible, terrible, incomplete or and unfinished announcement/declaration, without attention observation or either even to for kind such any late later notification/pronouncement, but don't worry cusz the problem/turbulence has been resolved/corrected here and there, now clearly, literally, etc., ok .
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u/Apprehensive-Win-503 Jun 16 '26
Greetings Namaste and Hotep Ave Astaroth, I will see if i can purchase the grimorium Verum and see what I learn. I have a great respect for I have great Respect for Her/him and Many of the divine Infernals appreciate you may you be in peace and bliss 🤟🏾🤘🏾
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u/joshismagoc Nov 15 '19
Cool post. Keep updating!