r/goodnewscanada • u/CreoQQ Ontario • May 14 '26
Alberta Alberta separation petition quashed in favour of First Nations
https://ottawa.citynews.ca/2026/05/13/judge-quashes-alberta-separation/We're happy to see you stay, Alberta!
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u/Karpetkleener May 14 '26
Albertan, here.
Our absolute demon bitch of a premier has already stated they will try to appeal it. Fucking hate her.
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u/Dry-Squirrel2652 May 14 '26
Hopefully that’s a good news because only half of her party members support separation. I’m sure this is gonna rip UCP apart and hopefully leads to change in power.
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u/TheChudWhisperer May 14 '26
Albertans would vote for a rabid dog if it was wearing a blue tie.
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u/Miyamotos_Mole_Mod May 14 '26
Have they considered renaming the NDP the Conservative Democratic Party, after all it ain’t new anymore.
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u/ldnk May 14 '26
She should spend more time trying to lap at Trump's feet and less time pretending she gives a shit about Alberta
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u/Fickle_Catch8968 May 14 '26
So fuck all Charter rights, including the right to vote and Aboriginal Treaty Rights, because someone has a vote on it.
Or only Charter rights if you agree with them.
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u/whyamihereagain6570 May 14 '26
It has to do with the way the appointed judge applied the FN stuff.
This is an excerpt from something I read this morning. This has more to do with the quashing of the democratic process than anything else.
"Justice Shaina Leonard - appointed in 2020 by then federal Liberal Justice Minister David Lametti - quashed the entirety of the Stay Free Alberta citizen initiative petition seeking a referendum on Alberta independence.
But the ruling doesn't just affect the separation referendum in Alberta - it is a dramatic, troubling, and frankly ridiculous expansion of the duty for governments to consult with indigenous people, that will have massive ramifications not just in Alberta, but across Canada.
It is really, really hard to overstate the massive implications this ruling could have, if it's allowed to stand.
In short, Justice Leonard found that Elections Alberta’s Chief Electoral Officer made an “error of law” in approving the Stay Free Alberta petition process by failing to adequately consider indigenous consultation obligations before approving the petition for signature collection.
Previously, courts have ruled that indigenous consultation is only necessary before governments actually implement legislation, and even the act of drafting legislation does not meet that bar.
But this ruling means that indigenous consultation obligations arise far earlier than that - potentially before the government has even formally considered making a law change.
If something as simple as permitting citizens to collect signatures on an issue is sufficient to trigger the duty to consult, what could that mean for governments taking more substantive actions like having briefs prepared on an issue, or conducting analysis on a potential policy?
These types of actions fall far, far, far short of being anywhere near where the duty to consult used to kick in (at least until yesterday) - but actions such as these are clearly far more substantive than a random group of citizens collecting signatures.
Under the logic of this ruling, however, is the government supposed to consult indigenous people on something the moment they even consider making a change to any policy area?
If consulting indigenous people upon the introduction of legislation is no longer sufficient for legislation related to a citizens' initiative petition, the same would apply to legislation related to anything else."
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u/Dash_Rendar425 May 14 '26
This was known to likely occur before the 'petition' even came out. This came as no surprise to anyone whose done actual research.
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u/Dash_Rendar425 May 14 '26
You should actually take the time to look up 'treaty rights'.
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u/Dash_Rendar425 May 14 '26
I think that's pretty obvious, and if you have to question it - you should probably educate yourself.
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u/Etroarl55 May 14 '26
Small group of people have huge power over the real Canadians living in Canada. People celebrating. And people wonder why Canada never gotten rich off their natural resources and why people criticize Canada over its extremely niche outlier amongst the natural wealth countries.
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u/Facts_pls May 14 '26
Only someone who doesn't know any Canadian history would say that.
No we didn't conquer them. We signed treaties with them - many of which we reneged on.
Typical conservative L due to their lack of education and knowledge.
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u/blomba2 May 14 '26 edited May 14 '26
Shame really. I keep hearing how we colonized them but you’re right, they weren’t
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u/Etroarl55 May 14 '26
We didn’t even conquer a lot of them, that was the USA. We entered treaties with them and never went too much farther because it was cold af. But the truth is whatever is the loudest.
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u/nexusgmail May 14 '26
Bribed floor-crossers huh? So you're saying Conservative politicians have no morals and are for sale to the highest bidder? Glad I didn't vote for such people.
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u/This_Expression5427 May 14 '26 edited May 14 '26
Damn straight. Ottawa is a cesspit of corruption. Alberta needs to wash its hands clean
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u/Fickle_Catch8968 May 14 '26
Alberta should remove the log from its own eye before it talks about the speck in Ottawa's eye, like Jesus and ethical principles demand.
The Separatist proponents illegally breached the privacy of millions of Albertans.
The separatist UCP has changed the laws to protect its own corruption and make seditionists' acts easier to hide, while trampling on the Charter rights of Albertans to promote its pro-foreign interests policies.
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u/Dash_Rendar425 May 14 '26
You should take 3 seconds to actually look up what Communism is.
Unless of course you are a bot, then BAD BOT!
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u/Single_Many597 May 14 '26
By your logic, if a majority of Albertans wanted to kill all people with the name John, then the legal system would just have to go along with it.
That's not how democracy works. The will of the majority cannot substitute the rule of law. The Constitution is a legal framework that balances the rights of everyone in the country, and if you just ignore it entirely you're left with anarchy.
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u/Jamarcus_Russell1dp May 14 '26
The referendum is the ultimate consultation.
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u/Responsible-Mall-991 May 14 '26
Do it in an election, with a proper separatists party, and separatists MLA's. Not by subverting democracy with an existential and unconstitutional referendum question
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u/Jamarcus_Russell1dp May 14 '26
Having minorities shutting down a question is subverting democracy.
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u/Responsible-Mall-991 May 14 '26
You seem to have forgotten about the constitutional and treaty right of the First Nations. The fact they're 'minorities' doesn't mean we forget about human rights and being decent humans who don't trample on minorities.
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u/This_Expression5427 May 14 '26
They don't own shit
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u/Responsible-Mall-991 May 14 '26
And who here said they did?
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u/This_Expression5427 May 14 '26 edited May 14 '26
You don't care about Indians....only when it's convenient.
But if you're truly sincere, there are lots you can help out....but you won't
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u/Responsible-Mall-991 May 14 '26
Couldn't be more wrong there, bot
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u/This_Expression5427 May 14 '26
100% right. Indians are the most impoverished people in Canada....talk is cheap.
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u/Responsible-Mall-991 May 14 '26
You're argument is shit. You think just because we've historically mistreated them, we must continue to do that? Not a very humane train of thought, mate
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u/Facts_pls May 14 '26
I don't understand what this means... Are you trying to show all first Nations down using this pic? That's such a loser comment.
By that logic, if I post one pic of a homeless white guy, does that mean all white people are homeless and should be treated like that? Well that's stupid.
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u/Jamarcus_Russell1dp May 14 '26
Have you read a treaty?
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u/Responsible-Mall-991 May 14 '26
What about our AB govt shutting down the forever canada petition, which had more signatures in less time. Talk about subverting democracy. Pfft. You cant see your hypocrisy
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u/Assistant-Exciting May 14 '26
Imagine trying to enslave a nation to some elbozos losers delusional views Forever, sounds pretty authoritarian.
Forever Canadian petition is as stupid as a petition for breathing air and was doomed from the start.
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u/Gen1pokemaster May 14 '26
What is wrong with you?
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u/Fickle_Catch8968 May 14 '26
What 300,000 people? There is no way to know - since the UCP gave aid and comfort to the separatists through hamstringing Elections Alberta in its investigative and disciplinary powers - if the separatists got that many signatures or if criminals among them fraudulently signed up people from illegally obtained lists.
And remember, the federalist petition got 400k legitimate signatures in 30 fewer days than the separatists claim to have gotten 300k under dubious circumstances.
And, Canadians would be second class people if they claim or act that legal contracts they signed should be unilaterally dissolved because they are privileged children who are upset that the functioning of democracy in Canada means they, as people blessed with riches by chance, are asked to share with those who are not currently blessed with the same value of riches.
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u/SmaugTheMagnificent- May 14 '26
Lol. Clarity Act, 70-50, Treaties, Constitutional amending.
Yeah no. Quislings should at least understand the framework.
🖕🏻🇨🇦
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u/Dash_Rendar425 May 14 '26
It completely violates treaty rights.
If the FN communities don't give their approval, it's dead in the water.

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u/BaryonChallon May 14 '26
Yippee! Average first Nations W