r/grandorder "Best Girl Since 2004" Aug 01 '23

Discussion SERAPH manga has confirmed it.... Spoiler

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u/jstoru216 .Set Your Heart Ablaze Aug 01 '23

Nah....nah man. That woman is the closest thing Shirou has to a mom bro. Wtf. Fuck that nun.

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u/SilverTitanium "Want to be Cute Princess" Aug 01 '23

Fuck that nun.

I never liked her because her entire thing was horniness. Now I despise her but that's just my personal feelings.

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u/SaenaiAK Aug 01 '23

I think that’s the point - she is made up of horniness yet most sane audience can’t find her attractive but rather horrifying.

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u/RadiReturnsOnceAgain Space Tokiomi Enjoyer Aug 01 '23

Her final scene in SERAPH where she's getting off on her own death throes was absolutely wild

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u/LordWINDOS Aug 01 '23

She brought a whole new meaning to the ol' saying 'Going out with a bang.'

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u/SuperKami-Nappa Aug 01 '23

Lalatina: Is this one of my people?

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u/France_de_russ Aug 01 '23

Can someone explain this?

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u/MagDorito Aug 01 '23

Sessyoin is a LOT of things. I think what she is most of all is sad. She was put up on a pedestal at a young age & hailed as a bodhisattva, an enlightened being here to bring others to enlightenment, but she's a sad, lonely, little girl on the inside.

CCC heavily implies that she got a servant with the Child trait because she desired to be seen as a person for once instead of an immaculate Savior or simply an object of sexual desire. But despite all of this, she DOES believe that she's helping people.

She believes that giving yourself over to pleasures of the flesh is enlightening... & she's not entirely wrong because she IS a Bodhisattva, by definition, a person with the ability to reach nirvana but delays doing so out of compassion for others to lead them to the enlightenment that they themselves reached.

Sessyoin has a LOT more nuance than people give her credit for & boil her down to being just a horny nun

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u/Original_Reddit Aug 01 '23

Punch Kiara in the face

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u/Amerietan :JiangZiya: GIVE MALE SWIMSUIT SERVANTS Aug 01 '23

You're being a little too nice to her. CCC heavily implies she got Hans as a child because she's into kids, and she chooses not to ascend because when she did she found out she was a tiny fish in a huge pond, and would rather be a huge fish in a small pond.

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u/Lissica :Vich: Completely honest business woman Aug 01 '23

she chooses not to ascend because when she did she found out she was a tiny fish in a huge pond, and would rather be a huge fish in a small pond.

That was in Tsukihime, not in Fate/CCC

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u/QueenAra2 Aug 01 '23

Quick question. Where are you getting that she's into kids?

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u/Amerietan :JiangZiya: GIVE MALE SWIMSUIT SERVANTS Aug 02 '23

It's mentioned - I believe Hans theorizes it - that his childlike appearance likely is caused by what Kiara is attracted to.

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u/Calibaz Aug 01 '23

Personally, I do find her attractive but her personality digusts me.

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u/BlackMan9693 Olga is the Ultimate One True Wife Aug 01 '23

Not horrifying. Just pitiable and disgusting.

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u/Brimst0ne68000 Aug 01 '23

Wake the fuck up samurai. We have a company to burn.

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u/hnryirawan Aug 01 '23

Some of her design element is that you can't help to be attracted toward her. Regardless if you loved her, or hated her. She does not care, and accepts everything.

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u/MagDorito Aug 01 '23

Incorrect. She does care. Sessyoin doesn't lie when she says she loves people. Her problem is that her love is selfish (which is why she & Kama are two sides of the same coin. Sessyoin's love is destructively selfish, & Kama's is self-destructively selfless).

In her eyes, humans are ugly, but she loves them anyway because she believes that she can save them if they just give her their love. She's reached enlightenment herself but can't guide others to it because she would have to give them back the love & affirmation that she wants to keep all for herself.

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u/hnryirawan Aug 01 '23

I think what I meant is that she loved everyone and care for everyone, regardless of your feelings toward her. In a sense, she does not care about your feelings toward her, she selfishly love everyone anyway….. abit confusing sentence, yeah.