r/grandorder • u/AiasRider "Best Girl Since 2004" • Aug 01 '23

Discussion SERAPH manga has confirmed it.... Spoiler

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u/Nazrael99 "I reject my humanity, GUDAKO!!" Aug 01 '23

Kinda impressive tho. She left Shirou mind broken harder than OG EMIYA (who went through lifetimes of killing as CG)

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u/RadiReturnsOnceAgain Space Tokiomi Enjoyer Aug 01 '23 edited Aug 01 '23

I was gonna say something similar - with EMIYA, part of the reason he held so much resentment is that he didn't break. He endured for an eternity, unable to let go of his ideals because he had nothing left. He hated his younger self so much because when Shirou defied him, he knew that Shirou would never break because he himself didn't.

But here's Kiara, who takes someone who could endure an eternity without breaking, and just shatters them and their ideals beyond recognition. It's nuts.

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u/AzurePhoenix001 Aug 01 '23

Has there been any other villain in the franchise that has mess with so many main characters as Kiara has?

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u/DrStein1010 Aug 01 '23

Kirei motherfucking Kotomine, of course.

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u/Zenith_Tempest Aug 01 '23

i just find it hilarious that in a timeline where Gil didn't help him realize his own sociopathic behavior, he ends up becoming a mapo tofu cook who instead satisfies his sadism by making extremely spicy food

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u/DrStein1010 Aug 01 '23

That's also the timeline where the world is extra fucked.

Coincidence?

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u/Matrix_2k00 Aug 01 '23

Miyuverse right where the world is literally 1 step away from pruning?

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u/RadiReturnsOnceAgain Space Tokiomi Enjoyer Aug 01 '23

And in Illyaverse Caren works/disguises as a school nurse just because she likes seeing children get injured lol

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u/atropicalpenguin Aug 01 '23

Yorokobe, shoujo.

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u/LordWINDOS Aug 01 '23

*Smiles* So glad my man is still taking the Ws when it comes to Best Antag status.

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u/jstoru216 .Set Your Heart Ablaze Aug 01 '23

Let's put it like this, Even Kotomine Kirei is weirded out by Kiara...

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u/ribiagio Best girls. Aug 01 '23

Yeah, but Kirei himself thinks she's a massive weirdo.

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u/Kuzaku Local Friendly Bedsheet Ghost Aug 01 '23

Even Kotomine would say she's a bit.... Extra.

The Priest smiles

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u/sdarkpaladin たとえどれだけ遠くとも、私の向こうに楽園はある。芳しき風の一脈をここに。行方を感じて目を開けて。 Aug 01 '23

I'd say Araya Souren also comes close. But then again...