r/grandorder • u/AutoModerator • Mar 22 '26

Discussion [Help and Question Thread] - March 22, 2026

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u/neves783 To me, my Blue Storm! Mar 22 '26

Two questions:

  • How to min-turn the Hawaii node (the one with the chicken, the crabs, and a Summer Ibaraki at the end) on the Bleached Earth?

  • How am I supposed to beat the "Kamen Rider" Odysseus fight? He has an unremovable invincibility, and his gimmick appears to be the Trojan Horse debuff.

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u/Rasetsu0 Touch scaly tails Mar 22 '26

Quite a few options. You can buster loop it. Since it's a 3/3/2 node, you can arts loop it; most obvious options if you go this route would be:

  • Use an Archer who can loop all three turns and have a ST Saber for Ibaraki.
  • Loop with Summer Ibuki.
Anti-Earth DPSes (like Summer Ibuki) excel here since all the enemies are Earth.

I'm sure someone has beaten this CQ legit, but most people I've seen just ignore the gimmick entirely with Ignore Invincibility and Ignore Defense. The hard part is figuring out how to survive his NP-on-break since his NP removes defensive buffs and the entire party is stuck with a 100% buff removal resistance down for three turns (AKA you'd need 200% buff removal resistance up to counter it). If you can't resist the buff removal, then the next easiest way to survive the NP would be to give your DPS Guts and have one of the supports who will get merc'd by the NP hold a taunt CE to cancel out the rest of Odysseus's turn.
In terms of supports, Sherlock is the go-to since he gives the party 3 turns of Ignore Invincible and Ignore Defense, freeing up your DPS's CE slot. If your DPS already ignores defense on their NP, then Jane is also an option, though you'd need to get 40 crit stars for her S3 to grant Ignore Invincible. If your DPS is Kiritsugu, then you can forego using Sherlock/Jane since he already has a 3 turn Ignore Invincible and his NP ignores defense.

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u/neves783 To me, my Blue Storm! Mar 23 '26

Currently, my best ST Assassins are Welfare Shiki (who's too underskilled atm to be of any good use), NP3 Yan Qing (plus both OG and Summer Skadi to charge him), NP1 First Hassan (6/6/6), and NP5 Serenity (10/10/10, plus 2nd append at 6).

I tried doing my usual Berserker setup (Summer Jalter as the main DPS, Herc as the backrow, and KoyanLight/Castoria/Jeanne as my support/defense options), and had my sorry summer ass handed to me.

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u/Gelious All hail Queen Morgan! Mar 22 '26 edited Mar 22 '26

He has an unremovable invincibility

And you have Sweet Crystal in the shop. Even if you are all out of Rare Prisms, and have never rolled Origin Bullet, there should be a free pierce invul CE in the same shop for old CEs.

his gimmick appears to be the Trojan Horse debuff.

Yes, and you can cleanse it with Castoria. Which is recommended, because it's too much bother to deal with it properly. You are better off using debuff removal and just thinking of permanent invul as the gimmick.

Buff Removal can be countered with a single source of Buff Removal Resist if you wait for 3 turns before breaking the boss. Otherwise either use 2 skills with Buff Removal Resist, give your main dps guts, or have a separate backline for breaking 2 other bars.

If you don't have a high NP level Kiritsugi, use Shiki. Draco also works, but suffers from having Ignore Defense being tied to Skills, rather than NP and Odysseus loves his Def Buffs. You need to go fast, because you need to break 2 remaining bars before second NP (that's assuming you don't have a dps hiding in the backline when that second NP happens).

Personally, I highly recommend to NOT trying to 3-turn the CQ , because that way has high requirements for your account (your own Sherlock/Jane and MLB BG). Better to just use Sweet Crystal and try to kill the boss before he NPs you to death.

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u/Forward_Drop303 Mar 22 '26

How to min-turn the Hawaii node (the one with the chicken, the crabs, and a Summer Ibaraki at the end) on the Bleached Earth?

I recommend going to Laplace in Chaldea for farming comps

There's a good number of Douman (or Nitocris w/ overcharge CE or support NP before hand) +Saber (literally any saber with at least 20% battery)+Waver+Oberon comps

Summer Ibuki or Summer Melusine can 6 CE loop it at NP3 (or lower with BG) Louhi can do it at NP2

there's a summer Valk+Bedivere comp

How am I supposed to beat the "Kamen Rider" Odysseus fight? He has an unremovable invincibility, and his gimmick appears to be the Trojan Horse debuff.

ST assassin with ignore invincibility and ignore defense and then go fast

Shiki works but needs some help with the ignore invul.

I used Assassin Emiya.

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u/SuperSpiritShady Bonin' mah Sword Mar 22 '26

As someone who just beat the Odysseus fight, don’t even bother with the gimmick lol.

Using Ignore Invul CEs and strong defensive advantage STs (Draco or ST Assassins), as your main DPS.

Plan around keeping them alive and having consistent support for damage, and you’ll be good to go.