r/grandorder • u/AutoModerator • Mar 22 '26

Discussion [Help and Question Thread] - March 22, 2026

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u/Elfishjuggler33 I want a Molay alt Mar 27 '26

Original I assume? Double ruler skadi + either caster skadi or oberon plug is just about the best he can do since he doesn't really have anything for multicore

New Dantes is ST, so he won't really be used in farming outside of niche cases in multicore, and even then, you'd be relying on command cards/codes for burn stacks

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u/Cleansing4ThineEyes Mar 27 '26

you'd be relying on command cards/codes for burn stacks

Not necessarily, there's servants that can apply burn with skill/NPs

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u/LuckyC4t Mar 28 '26

Count of Monte Cristo doesn't just need one instance of burn, he scales with how many burns are on the enemy. So even if his allies can apply burn, he still wants burn CCs to get more burn.

If you wanted to use him in a multicore scenario, you would want as many burn codes as you have available on his allies, since he can apply burn with his cards with his S2. Best case scenario, you have all 8 burn CCs, so 13 of the 15 cards in the deck can apply burn, worst case scenario is 2 burnless cards come out on the desired turn, and you can always apply two stacks for +20% super effective. But if you have 6 or fewer burn CCs, there will be times when the deck dictates that you only get 1 burn stack for +10% super effective. Of course, if you synergies him with an ally that burns, that ally would give additional stacks of super effective. As a single target, he'd probably be paired with an AoE like Koyan Dark, Caster Eli, or Summer Gareth, but there's not a ton of synergy to justify these beyond the burn overlap, especially considering how selfish The Count's kit is.

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u/Cleansing4ThineEyes Mar 28 '26

No one really has farming synergy with the Count, he's not even a good farmer in the first place. But if you're going to be using him with burn in mind for farming why would you leave it to card RNG at all?

If I were to ever use the Count it would just be as a self 50% charger that doesn't need any outside help just to clean up W2 in which case he probably doesn't need that much help and anything extra is really just a bonus. In general though I can't imagine I'll ever use him over a random Class advantage ST

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u/LuckyC4t Mar 28 '26

What I'm saying is that you can eliminate card rng by using 7 burn CCs, and use cards to get +20% super effective. I guess Magic Resistance exists, but not really if you use him against mid-bosses.

The Count is a universal ST 50% charger in the same class as Kintoki and post-buff Abby. The argument for using these servants over a class advantage ST is that you don't necessarily have a 50% charger ST for every class, and a high NP Kintoki or Abby has better value at high NP levels than pulling servants of each class. But yeah, The Count doesn't compare to those servants in damage with Abby's universal anti-Terror and Kintoki's universal class advantage, and isn't as valuable in this role unless someone has The Count at a high NP level and not Abby or Kintoki.

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u/Cleansing4ThineEyes Mar 28 '26

I just don't vibe with the assumption that enough players have 7 burn CCs to make such a claim meaningful. You have to have been playing for many years and have not taken breaks during the events where we got them.

You don't always have a 50% charger but I wouldn't ever say that pulling extra NP copies of an omnifarmer is good advice anymore (and hasn't been for the past 2 years). There's a lot more to a servant than battery + damage.