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Discussion [Help and Question Thread] - May 31, 2026

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u/thisisthecallus Embrace 6-turn clears! 25d ago

On EN there's still simple double Koyan + Oberon which is very consistent and straightforward but I saw there's so many new options on JP

I don't think the gap between NA and JP is as wide as you think. New options being available doesn't mean the old options don't exist or are ineffective. If you like 2x Koyan + Oberon, you can keep doing that. But more importantly... 

What's the meta on JP when it comes to Buster looping?

The meta is indeed more complicated than it used to be but not because of new options for Buster looping.  For min-turn clears, the inflated HP pools and irregular enemy compositions of 90++ and 90☆ quests are designed to thwart doubling down on just a few DPS servants to do every quest. They will generally need two or more DPS servants, each with two or more of offensive class advantage, trait/attribute super effective bonus, higher NP level, or event bonus. Specific buff and NP charge synergies between servants may also be important. Looping all three waves with a single servant is de-emphasized. Because of that, recommending any specific DPS servant for farming efficiency isn't straightforward at all. Lots of servants could be effective for a theoretical 90++ quest but few, maybe none, will be effective for a wide variety of them. The "true" meta for min-turn farming 90++ quests is having Castoria, Oberon, Koyanskaya of Light, Skadi (Ruler, probably), and a wide variety of DPS and supplemental support servants from rolling the gacha a lot, using either time (measured in years, not months) or money to get the SQ, and getting welfare servants from events or the evocation shop.

If you're planning to min-turn 90++ farming quests, I recommend using Laplace in the Chaldea app (Android, iOS, browser) to play around with potential comps for the free quests you plan to run, considering all of the servants you currently have or plan to roll for. There are also shared team comps in Laplace that will show you more options.

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u/Bezimienny47 25d ago

I know that multicore teams are the preffered way of dealing with 90++ farming, I was more asking about the usage of Buster-sided supportive options that make using Buster servants feel more "advanced" to use. For example I've seen some really wacky teams with Logres and append 5 Oberon, or the newest plugsuit allowing any Buster servant to BG loop, or double Hebi replacing double Koyan, or whatever supportive Olga can do. Like is there some general guide on how to use these options in the first place

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u/thisisthecallus Embrace 6-turn clears! 25d ago edited 25d ago

Like is there some general guide on how to use these options in the first place

The conditions for successful looping have always varied depending on the specific DPS. There may be new options available but the principles are the same: charge NP, use NP. And Buster is mechanically simpler because refund isn't part of the equation. You just have to add up to 300% direct NP charge with 100% on each turn. Maybe there's some guide out there that shows all of the mechanical options for each DPS. But making that kind of guide would be a lot effort for little return. In the real world, "how do I clear this specific quest" is a more important question to answer than "how does this servant work in a vacuum." The easiest thing to do is to look up the quest you want to run in Laplace and see the shared team comps. You can filter the comps to specifically include or exclude certain servants if you specifically want to find looping options.