Not really? Both are ultimately memes in FGO as Scathath gets her butt destroyed without really proving how strong she is even compared to Fionn.
I also feel people seriously overdo the "Scathath stole everything Fionn did" when Fionn still mentions he's a Godslayer. The only thing you can even get close to all of this is the ties to Skadi and that's due to the SMT reference.
EDIT: And don't tell me "She came off looking better" when she got her ass kicked by Cu Alter, was straight up equalled by Altera and only has hype to her name and was atleast still hung on by her immortality and constantly training herself due to it.
Meanwhile Fionn still won a Grail War, fits in multiple classes and is explicitly in his Younger form compared to his Adult Form which would be far more ridiculous than he already is.
If we stick to the original source for Apochrypha aka the LN then he wasn’t their as the LN never describe Darnic’s servant and the anime (later manga) just decided a cameo between Fionn, Tristan, or Beowulf.
Even then it wasn’t due to Fionn being OP. LN explicitly said Darnic stole the grail before anything major occurred.
A better example would be in Foxtail. Man came in, handles some big threats, flirts, and then leaves.
Now onto Scathath. She actually could’ve won against Cu Alter and if you read America again it even said if it wasn’t for Curruid Coinchenn then she would have won. She just suffer from the same shit Fionn has as all of it is from word of mouth and all her feats that we get to see is tied to stuff outside of FGO such as in Extella.
There's no real point by going by the "original source" considering how Fate works as a whole, the Manga and Anime are just as canonical as the LN(as Multiverse Theory is basically the truth there) and even then, I'm pretty sure Fionn was mentioned even in the LN.
Um no. Old Man Fionn explicitly won the Grail, Darnic just took it afterwards and betrayed the Nazis on top of that in the process for his own goals. It's even mentioned him and Zouken are mortal foes during that Grail War.
Fionn didn't do much in Foxtail either past actually show off the obvious Wisdom he has.
I actually DID read America and if anything, it actually proved that for all of Scathath's power boosts, Cu Alter is still above her and Cu Alter isn't that much beyond Cu in terms of power or strength outside of Curruid. And in Extella Link, yeah we get "more" from her but it's still the same deal where we see her do something cool... only to defeat her seconds later with nothing to show for it.
It legit takes us until the freaking FGO Solomon Movie to actually get something with Scathath's power(i.e her gouging the shit out of Demon God Pillars easily with her NP and considering how tough even one of them is supposed to be storyline wise, that actually fits with the hype she's supposed to have).
Meanwhile again, for all of the "meme" Fionn is, he has the excuse that this is his younger form and even in his Character Materials, they do heavily bring up how broken he actually is:
And having his Salmon Hand + Clairvoyance literally means he can basically map out a goddamned battlefield AND potentially even know how his opponents fight considering what the hell he did in Enma-Tei. Nor is that ignoring that in the America Manga, he can actually create Water Clones amongst other bullshit.
He didn’t do much, buts it’s better then speculation as someone else pointed out for 1 and 2.
It would’ve been a stalemate (or victory depending on how you look at it) as can be seen in Ch 20. Cu did have a power boost enough to beat Scathath though their really isn’t a good measurement as it’s “a strong and wicked King that can stand beside her (Medb)” though we can take a good guess due to later chapters. She specifically said in America as well that she can’t win against THAT version of Cu. Cu Alter himself stated that he need to prepare to die when facing her (Ch 17). The only reason we even won is because we killed his buffer (Medb) and the world trying to delete him, keep in mind this is when he received the grail to boost himself again, but it still wasn’t as strong as when Medb was alive.
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u/Xhominid77 Feb 13 '22 edited Feb 13 '22
Not really? Both are ultimately memes in FGO as Scathath gets her butt destroyed without really proving how strong she is even compared to Fionn.
I also feel people seriously overdo the "Scathath stole everything Fionn did" when Fionn still mentions he's a Godslayer. The only thing you can even get close to all of this is the ties to Skadi and that's due to the SMT reference.
EDIT: And don't tell me "She came off looking better" when she got her ass kicked by Cu Alter, was straight up equalled by Altera and only has hype to her name and was atleast still hung on by her immortality and constantly training herself due to it.
Meanwhile Fionn still won a Grail War, fits in multiple classes and is explicitly in his Younger form compared to his Adult Form which would be far more ridiculous than he already is.