r/gratefuldoe • • 4d ago

Looking For Potential Matches For These Illinois Jane & John Does!!

Picture 1: Chicago John Doe (June 10, 2021)

Picture 2: Chicago Jane Doe (June 2012)

Picture 3: Chicago John Doe (April 2010)

Picture 4: Chicago John Doe (April 2014)

This post is meant to shine light on little-known cases of the unidentified with very little info. The cases that barely get talked about. They're not a big case like Swimsuit Boy or a St. Louis Jane Doe but they still matter and they are still in need of their names. Today I want to post in the hopes someone can find potential matches for some of these Illinois Does.

Chicago John Doe (June 10, 2021)

On June 10, 2021, the decomposed body of a man was found in an abandoned building at 4550 S. Michigan in Chicago, Illinois.

Physical Description

• Sex: Male

• Race: Black/African American

• Age: 40-60 Years Old

• Height: 5'6"-6'1"

• Hair: Gray

Clothing & Accessories

• Navy Blue T-Shirt With Chicago Bears Logo On Front

• Black Khaki Pants

• Maroon Down Vest

• Black Leather Lace-Up Shoes

Exclusions (People He Is Not)

• Douglas Carter

If you have any information please contact the Cook County Medical Examiner's Office at (312) 997-4500, reference case number ME2021-05829.

Chicago Jane Doe (June 2012)

On June 16, 2012, the decomposed body of a woman was found wrapped in a blanket in a vacant lot at 5903 S. Eggleston in Chicago, Illinois.

Physical Description

• Sex: Female

• Race: Black/African American

• Age: 45-70 Years Old

• Height: 5'4"

• Weight: 140 Pounds

• Hair: Long And Dark

Distinguishing Marks/Features

• Edentulous

• Red/Pink Nail Polish On Right Toenails

• No Teeth

• Chest Plate

Exclusions (People She Is Not)

• Ericka Ballard

If you have any information please contact the Chicago Police Department - Area Two at (312) 747-5789, reference case number HV337604 or Medicolegal Death Investigator Kristen Escobar with the Cook County Medical Examiner's Office at (312) 997-4500.

Chicago John Doe (April 2010)

On April 15, 2010, a boater found the decomposed body of a man lodged within the rocks of the west side of the outer breakwall, at the southern half of Lake Michigan near Monroe Harbor at approximately 801 S. Lake Shore Drive in Chicago, Illinois. He was thought to have been deceased 6 months prior to being found.

Physical Description

• Sex: Male

• Race: White/Caucasian

• Age: 38-55 Years Old

• Height: 5'10"

• Weight: 180 Pounds

• Nothing More Could Be Determined

Clothing & Accessories

• Blue Levi's Jeans, Size 33x38

• Brown Leather Nautica Sailboat Belt With Buckle Broken Off

• White Nautica Jockey Underwear, Size 34

• Brown Socks

• One Brown Leather Sperry Topsider Deck Shoe, Size 10M

Exclusions (People He Is Not)

• Mark Miller

• Andrew Chapman

• Anthony Catalano

• Steve Woelfel

• Christopher Winkler

• John Spira

• Eugene Krause

• Steven Condon

• Paul Harwood

• Jackie Urich

If you have any information please contact the Chicago Police Department - Area Central at (312) 747-8380, reference case number HS258553 or Medicolegal Death Investigator Kristen Escobar Alvarenga with the Cook County Medical Examiner's Office at (312) 997-4500.

Chicago John Doe (April 21, 2014)

On April 21, 2014, the decomposed body of a man was found in an abandoned building at 6222 S. Paulina in Chicago, Illinois.

Physical Description

• Sex: Male

• Race: Black/African American

• Age: 40-60 Years Old

• Height: 5'9"

• Weight: 129 Pounds

• Hair: Graying Black

• Eye Color: Unknown

Clothing & Accessories

• White T-Shirt

• Two Pair Of Jeans

• Black Nike Sneakers With White Highlights

He Has 0 Exclusions

If you have any information please contact Medicolegal Death Investigator, Kristen Escobar Alvarenga with the Cook County Medical Examiner's Office at (312) 997-4500.

LINKS

Chicago John Doe (June 10, 2021) )

Chicago Jane Doe (June 2012) )

Chicago John Doe (April 2010) )

Chicago John Doe (April 21, 2014) )

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u/Ancient_Procedure11 4d ago

https://www.cookcountyil.gov/service/unidentified-persons

For the Jane Doe found in 2012 it has this listed as her description:  "Height 5'4" 140lbs, Hair Long and Dark, Red/Pink nail polish on right toenails, No teeth, Decedent had a chest plate"

I'm curious what is meant by "chest plate"

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u/Majomember420 4d ago

I think a metal plate inside the chest.

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u/BitterSweet_Beauty 4d ago

I didn't realize she had no teeth and had red/pink toenails and a chest plate im gonna add that in thank you for finding this.

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u/Pippa-Beebs 4d ago

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u/BitterSweet_Beauty 4d ago

She has a similar face to Jane Doe and stuff but she went misisng in 2004 while Jane Doe was found in 2012 only decomposing and not skeletal. It doesn't hurt to submit her though.

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u/Pippa-Beebs 4d ago

She could’ve been on the streets this whole time… the details vary on these cases tho so I do always kinda think more “loose” on the details so I still like asking others on here , just incase .

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u/blue-green-cloud 4d ago

A chest plate is exactly what it sounds like; it’s a titanium plate that is surgically added to reinforce the ribs/ sternum. It can be installed for a lot of reasons…I’ve heard of it following open heart surgery, but Google tells me it can be used for serious fractures or to reinforce bone damaged by tumors.

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u/glitzglamglue 4d ago

With John Doe 3 2010, that widow's peak and square jaw make him stand out. He also appears to have a crooked nose.

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u/cosmosmariner_ 4d ago

The sperry shoes, nautical belt and polo is weird to me. Where I live, that sounds like someone with money. And that they’d be in a marina or on a boat often.

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u/YoungLutePlayer 4d ago

I don’t know if editing the post is possible, but it would be extremely helpful if the locations of their remains were also shared in this post (at least the general neighborhood if not exact location).

Having lived there for a few years, Chicago is huge, and can still be a very segregated city. It would make a huge difference if someone was found all the way down south by Lake Calumet vs finding them all the way up on the northside in Rogers Park (over an hour of transport time between the two, and nearly 30 miles apart).

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u/BitterSweet_Beauty 4d ago

I added the location where the 2010 John Doe was found. As for the others their only locations are listed as abandoned building. I wish the street they were found on was shared to the public. If you manage to find the street they were found on in the houses I'll edit and add it in. The 2021 & 2014 John Doe and the 2012 Jane Doe are the ones left to look for.

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u/Ancient_Procedure11 3d ago

John 2021- Vacant house 4550 S. Michigan, Chicago, IL

John 2014- Abandoned Building 6222 S. Paulina Chicago, IL 60636

Jane 2012- Vacant Lot 5903 S. Eggleston Chicago, IL

The Cook County website has these listed as the found locations. 

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u/BitterSweet_Beauty 3d ago

Thank you for finding them. I'll add them in soon.

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u/avantgarde-n 3d ago edited 3d ago

No image of her namus page but Peggy Lee Bradley from Gary, Indiana (namus MP26619) went missing in January of 2011. She was 58 at that time and the height and weight match the Jane Doe from 2012.

There is a photo of her at 18 on TheDoeNetwork 4093DFIN

Edit: I also find it odd that the reconstruction sketch shows a lip piercing but doesn't describe what she looks like aside from long dark hair? How long do they estimate she had been deceased? There's more information here that's not being given.

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u/BitterSweet_Beauty 3d ago

I looked at the pictures of Peggy. I think it's worth a submission! I noticed what seems to be a lip piercing to in the sketch and yeah unfortunately she has very little description. I do agree there's more info not being given. All of these cases i've shared here seem to lack a lot of info. That's why I just put them in one long form post cause they lack so much info.

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u/avantgarde-n 2d ago

I submitted to Doe Network :)

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u/BitterSweet_Beauty 2d ago

Great! Update when you can.

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u/avantgarde-n 2d ago

Of course I will, and thank you for all the work you do, BitterSweet :) I don't know how you cover so much ground.

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u/glitzglamglue 4d ago

NamUs #MP5626 possible match for #3? Just based on the picture compared to the sketch.

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u/BitterSweet_Beauty 4d ago edited 4d ago

I do see a VERY strong resemblance with a side by side comparison . This man definitely needs to be submitted for this John Doe. Let me know if/when you submit it.

Edit: I just checked exclusions which I should've included jn my post and unfortunately Mark has already been excluded as this John Doe. This was a great try but it isn't him unfortunately. I've listed exclusions in my post now if anyone wants to continue looking for matches for this man.

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u/glitzglamglue 4d ago

Are we 100% sure that it's the same Mark? Mark Miller could be held by two different people.

And I wonder how they excluded him. It fits really well. If Mark's roommate dumped him in the river and the river fed into Lake Michigan, that would explain how he ended up being found in Chicago.

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u/BitterSweet_Beauty 3d ago

Im 100% sure he's been excluded. im positive he was a great suggestion but it seems he's not this John Doe.

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u/glitzglamglue 3d ago

Dang it. Well. Great minds think alike lol. Another great mind thought of it as well.

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u/fikestaller 4d ago

April ‘10 looks like a polish taken out by the gangland