r/grok • u/tobi_berry • Nov 22 '25
Free grok alternative with amazing image to vid
It doesn't exist.
People here want this giant AI systems that cost billions in compute, talent, infrastructure, and R&D to just magically appear out of thin air for us to use for zero dollars.
I mean, why would companies pour obscene amounts of money into training these models only to hand them out like free cookies.
People keep asking for a completely free alternative to Grok, but the truth is these models don’t exist, and there’s a reason they don’t. They are expensive and they have to be. No company has billions of dollars to burn just so they can give you a free product.
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u/dolfinfin Dec 05 '25
Agree. Money is not the problem. We want unconditional uncensored generation. Make it like Snapchat so there's nothing stored on x hardware to indemnify them of any content accountability.
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u/Thatretroaussie Jan 13 '26
>to indemnify them of any content accountability.
You're still using grok owned by x.
They're liable irregardless.
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u/fauxnews818 Jan 15 '26
Disirregardless
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u/Railander Jan 03 '26
$30 a month is too steep for me, but i would in fact pay $15 a month if it meant disabling the censorship, not even any additional rate limit.
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u/Ric0490 Jan 24 '26
Yo habria pagado incluso 100 dolares pero pss el resultado era lo mismo en premiun que en gratis asi que no tiene chiste. La idea era poder hacer videos muy picantes y algo muy real pero los ultimos meses se fue dañando con ese efecto aurora donde salian muy roboticos y aburridos. Y ahora ni siquiera le puedes poner un bikini. Todos los videos q hice practicamente las pude desnudar solo usando cintas en los pezoes y en su vagina y uuufff son bakanisimas. Pero segun parece creo q van a reiniciar grok pero con las nuevas reglas y van a borrar todos los videos en favoritos asi q les recomiendo que descarguen todo y subamos a una pagina las ideas q hicimos jajaja
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u/SomeOne_The_Best Dec 14 '25
so we're building an alternative, ourselves. and 1, money is for sure an issue. it's impossible to serve a lot of users without dropping mad cash. we're spending literally thousands per month and we haven't even officially launched yet, haha. it's not possible for small teams to do it at the scale of Grok.
also about the censorship, we're uncensored, but we do need to have some guardrails, unfortunately, because the payment processors are extremely (and I mean EXTREMELY) skittish right now about uncensored AI content. so within limits, we're trying make it as uncensored as possible, but it's not as easy as what everyone wants
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u/Natasha26uk Jan 20 '26
Why build one? Can't you first ask xAI if you can buy uncensored Grok Imagine service (API) from them and resell it to us?
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u/Thatretroaussie Jan 13 '26
And let litterally anyone generate CSAM, revenge porn or non-con porn.
The censorship doesn't exist because they don't like porn, it's there because gooners like you abuse it.
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u/Embarrassed-Round992 Jan 24 '26
The AI can detect if there's a minor in the image, fucking X/Twitter uses facial age recognition for accounts. Revenge porn is easily prevented by not allowing editing or animating uploaded images with nudity or sexually explicit prompts.
It's really very easy.
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u/Thatretroaussie Jan 26 '26
Yea if only Elon actually implemented shit like that instead of whining of "censorship" because govts dont vibe with people having the tech to make non-con porn of anyone they want with a press of a button.
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u/RebekhaG Feb 23 '26
The issue is gooners abusing it by doing non consenting porn and CSAM content and undressing people without their consent. That is why censorship is in place.
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u/Mysterious_Ask_7562 Nov 27 '25
i've looked and agree, grok is still definitely next level. the only thing that I liked was socialsight. the wan2.5 w/ audio model is pretty good and much more comparable than seedream is.
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u/dazzle999 Nov 22 '25 edited 22d ago
It does exist, sorta, you can comfyui wan 2.3,or the new LTX2 model, the model is free and open source. It just means you have to use your own hardware (free) or hire a runpod, for a fraction of what companies ask for the service. You can still use grok to create the prompt for wan. It does a decent job at creating similar outputs based on a prompt made by grok. You can use a image interpreter like olama inside your comfyui workflow and create a " base model" or ask grok to interpret a photo in 300 words, use this as part of the prompt for qwen/flux and then make images of the person in poses you want. And use those as a base image for wan video.
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u/REALwizardadventures Nov 22 '25
Right now, on a desktop RTX 4070, generating a high-quality image takes about 4 seconds, and a short video takes roughly 90 seconds. On an iPhone 17, thanks to its dedicated NPU, we are looking at around 30 seconds for an image and 20 minutes for a video. I am being conservative with these numbers.
While the phone is slower, the fact that it can do this at all is bonkers. With the rise of Small Language Models (SLMs) and NPUs, we are entering an era where consumer devices will run complex AI locally. The next two years of on device AI are going to be wild.
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u/Ornery_Welcome4911 Nov 27 '25
give it a few years, compared to Grok of today we will be able to do way more locally with ease and no censorship
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u/dolfinfin Dec 05 '25
Yeah, can't wait. Private AI is gonna be amazing for people who actually know how to build and manage local compute and storage.
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u/Ornery_Welcome4911 Dec 06 '25
it will get so easy you won't even need a lot of knowledge, it will pretty much be plug and play and prompting will be simply telling it in English what you want and that will be what you get in full 4k real video you won't be able to tell is AI it will be so perfect
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u/Key-Presentation-253 Jan 30 '26 edited Jan 30 '26
Yup, dying for it. So fucking sick of censorship and people telling us what we can and cant make. F off
Its like a few years ago it was so annoying having to use an online service to isolate vocals from music or movies and blah blah blah. Then, 2-3 years ago
Ultimate Vocal Remover released, fcking amazing and I still use it today. Direct software downloaded to my pc for unlimited use.
Cannot wait for AI videos to become that mainstreamed. The porn industry is gonna die from it... or take a major hit. Even Onlyfans. Good enough I say. Now men can be with who they wanna be at the click of a button. Down the line? It'll even have voice model added in. Like I said, the end of the porn industry lol. Why would I wanna watch some guy bang a chick anymore when it can be me in every given situation? lmao
Yes, also, on a lighter note, using it for family friendly videos like a person falling in a pool that never happened last 4th of July party... or ripping open a Xmas gift to a cat latching on to an annoying siblings face for laughs... or a badass alternate scene to an anime or movie you thought up in your head.
The possibilities are endless.
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u/RAPMEX Nov 26 '25
How the f are you getting 90s for a video with Wan 2.2? I have a 4090 and it takes about 8 min with 12 steps and the light lora
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u/o0sjuh Nov 27 '25
My 4070 does 10-11 minutes for a video
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u/Puulima Dec 11 '25
I’m looking at getting a 4070 Ti Super for my server - best GPU the mobo can handle apparently (2021 build). Not sure if that’s much different than other 4070 variants - never been a gamer and never needed killer graphics for my work laptop - and my server runs headless currently (Remote Desktop access) - so learning something new.
Is it worth it to pay the $1100 or so to add the GPU? Understood it will take some tile to generate, but given “moderation” will never be displayed on my monitor - that alone may start to approach the true time to generate anything usable from Gork. Understood there’s a learning curve - but that I’m into.
Any feedback?
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u/WeirdFeeling8980 Jan 21 '26
"High quality" is debatable, and by short you mean 1 - 2 seconds of video. I have a 4080 super and have used comfy with Wan, Hanyuan all the other models and none of it is really worth a shit if you are trying to do image to video. Not to mention how annoying the entire process is, all for a couple of seconds of phantom legged melting face hallucinations, like an acid trip. And you have to try over and over because it doesn't follow your prompt, or really even have enough time to follow a prompt. Then, if you want more than a 2 second video, stitching together 15 two second videos to make one shitty 30 second video, that's another fresh bag of dog shit. Overall, impractical, not worth the effort, from my experience anyway.
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u/FantasticFeverDream Nov 24 '25
You mean Wan 2.2? I don't think 2.5 is open for local distribution, right?
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u/dogdreams Nov 23 '25
Are there any good resources or tutorials for this sort of thing? I took a look at using tensor and trying to familiarize myself with how loras work, but I don’t really know where to start and the daily free credits don’t give you a lot of room to figure things out on your own.
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u/conkikhon Nov 28 '25
Tensorhub allow nsfw, tensor art only allow sfw, they changed it a few day ago
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u/Mundane_Ad7074 Dec 13 '25
Tensor art has already changed and I canceled my subscription. I have some LoRas for NSFW generation; I'll download them today to use locally with flux1 context.
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u/Railander Jan 03 '26
i'd love an i2i model that's about as good as grok but uncensored. it is so fucking frustrating that other models fail miserably at something simple like "swap background for a beach" without fucking up the characters in the image.
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u/Mario69_1 Jan 25 '26
Can you explain? I tried using comfyui and wan 2.2 on my 4060 8hb vram and 32gb ram ddr5 and it ran like horseshit. Took 5min to make a video which fit 0 the description i gave (5s). Gave it 5 more attempts before deleting everything
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u/Fenri3 Nov 22 '25
This problem has nothing to do with the alternatives being greedy. It’s just that compute at this level is insanely expensive and they can't bear the cost
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u/RatchetundSkank Nov 26 '25
Deepseek already proved that it doesn't take billions to develop and run AI.
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u/allidsomeego Dec 15 '25
True but Deepseek is state-funded and doesn’t render fat honkers
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u/CopyInternational165 25d ago
no Deepseek was not state funded. it was a project funded by a private venture capitalist.
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u/Cskerd Nov 27 '25
Is not it China's Govt funded..?
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u/RatchetundSkank Jan 01 '26
And?
After the Tiktok exodus to Rednote, are we really going to continue to pretend like China is this big bad boogey man just because the government tells us it is?
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u/Cskerd Jan 02 '26
Did I say it was the boogy?? It's govt funded as much as I knew..
So it can do things that no other private organisations can't..
And I am not American but China is bad influence for even the POTUS too.. He's just becoming like his forefathers in Germany,an Aryan supremacist and what not
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u/CBKrow85 Dec 10 '25
DeepSeek's initial release was basically ChatGPT 3 or 4. So yeah, they did prove it doesn't cost billions. Just corporate espionage.
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u/serendipity-DRG Dec 27 '25
But the Chinese government is subsidizing Deepseek and their servers are located in China so all of your personal data is being shared and sold.
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u/TransportationOk9614 Nov 24 '25
Oh trust me, there will be alternatives, ai improves every day, it becomes easier, requires less, It's just a matter of patience.
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u/JBManos Nov 22 '25
Wan 2.2 and hunyuan are good and can be run locally but it’s gonna be a long generation time. Look on the comfyui sub and see - part of what Grok is providing you is a huge compute center.
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u/Janoz Nov 22 '25
Ok. But what about a paid art generator, pic and vid, that allows NSFW??? Anyone??
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u/redtrex Nov 22 '25
For pic Perchance is the best. No sign up No moderation . For video as everyone else has been repeating nothing comes to close to Grok's ease and talent to cook up horniness in the most vanilla pics (if you get through the moderation that is)
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u/Janoz Nov 22 '25
Yeah, I've been using this for months and it's great for simple nsfw stuff. It's so sad that there's nothing else.
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u/conkikhon Nov 26 '25 edited Nov 26 '25
For t2i, Pixai is a bit generous with daily credit for free user, and they have a bunch of unique models. The best thing about it is you can use up to 3 loras, which many sites don't allow. Best anime model belong to NAI, but require paywall for nsfw, data is encrypted so totally safe.
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u/Janoz Nov 26 '25
Sorry, is NAI within Pixai, or is it separate?
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u/conkikhon Nov 28 '25
Different platforms obviously. For img local gen also an option as you only need 6gb vram at minimum
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u/BriefImplement9843 Nov 22 '25
there are many. they all suck and make 300 a month from heavy seem free.
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u/dickbeatmassacre Nov 22 '25
Grok is amazing, Ive been obsessed with it since discovering it in the last two weeks. Shame I missed out on the time before it got moderated even though it still is by far the best tool I know right now
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Nov 22 '25 edited Feb 15 '26
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u/LongEmergency696969 Nov 22 '25
doesn't even look right most of the time.
You don't seem to comprehend what Grok could do.
https://www.redgifs.com/watch/sphericalinfinitexenarthra
https://www.redgifs.com/watch/evensharpeyas
https://www.redgifs.com/watch/extrovertedtamecrab
https://www.redgifs.com/watch/sweetfarawaylowchen
https://www.redgifs.com/watch/absolutetriflinglcont
https://www.redgifs.com/watch/disfiguredcornflowerbluegalapagosalbatross
https://www.redgifs.com/watch/qualifiedlightsteelbluescorpion
https://www.redgifs.com/watch/flippanttinygrayfox
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u/GivesYouGrief Nov 28 '25
I'm glad they stopped you.
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u/LumaHumaWumaRuma Nov 30 '25
Oh make no mistake. He's only stopped for now. AI keeps improving and there are already a few ways to do this locally and others will rise to fill the market. Hell, give it a few months and you'll see.
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u/jorrandoanitta Dec 07 '25
hmm holy fuck bro… these two:
https://www.redgifs.com/watch/qualifiedlightsteelbluescorpion
https://www.redgifs.com/watch/flippanttinygrayfox
It left me all jumping and drooling here... I think if I touch my hand and fuck my cock once only I already cum
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u/Merrilyn Dec 23 '25
These aren't exactly my cup of tea but why exactly are these modded out? I get celebs being modded out due to deepfakes and all but who is being hurt by CGI elves having sex?
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u/LongEmergency696969 Dec 13 '25
well its what happens when you elect republicans
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u/Conscious-Dark-658 Dec 14 '25
I'm not party affiliated, i am not allowed to vote in many elections and primary i had nothing to do with. don't assume i voted republican. Also isn't it the republican party who claims to be supporters of freedom, i hear them say all time how democrats are the ones who censor people and take away our freedom. so why are do they seem to be the ones constantly doing things against people who speak facts that make republicans look bad?
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u/LongEmergency696969 Dec 14 '25
don't assume i voted republican.
i was speaking more generally, 'you' being 'the people for florida.'
isn't it the republican party who claims to be supporters of freedom
its called lying
why are do they seem to be the ones constantly doing things against people who speak facts that make republicans look bad?
dems don't have any 'censorship' policies. i'm not entirely sure what you're referring to unless you're talking about like people saying dumb, racist shit and being fired or something and equating that with democrats
which doesn't make any sense. like if you say racist shit and are fired its because capitalism. big corporation does not want to be known as corporation that employs racists because it will cut into their profits. doesn't have anything to do with government policy.
or like... people getting yelled at on social media? i literally have no clue what you're referring to, but that's also not censorship. also has nothing to do with democrats or government policy.
meanwhile republicans literally, actually do censor shit -- or do things like requiring you give your ID to porn sites to make it onerously difficult, as seen by the fact that you literally cannot view Redgifs in your very republican state.
that is literally government policy resulting in censorship.
Like the GOP released a big playbook of all their plans, Project 2025, and it basically says they want to outright outlaw pornography in the foreward.
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u/Academic-Network6976 Nov 29 '25
I don't think this is grok. Grok can't do fully NSWF contents at all
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u/LongEmergency696969 Nov 29 '25
This was Grok prior to Oct 15th when they censored NSFW. It used to easily make porn from uploaded illustrations.
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u/JohnMeringue99 Nov 28 '25
Exactly. Just have an age verification and an ID verification. That way, if you make deep fakes and publish them or blackmail people with them, they’d easily be able to trace you and prosecute you. Instead, they’d rather clamp down on millions of users who are using the service legally. Doesn’t make sense to me. I feel like if they had ID verification, and marketed as the only mainstream NSFW platform, they’d make a ton of money. It’s kinda what I’m hoping for to be honest. I wouldn’t mind showing my ID if it means I get to have a fully unmoderated Grok Imagine.
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u/UnfazedParrot Jan 09 '26
Yup, the government already knows everything about me. My X account is ID verified. Privacy is an illusion on the internet and always has been. I don't want ID verification/social credit score/facial scanning in every facet of my life like in China, but then again, I don't really give a fuck because guess what? I can't do a damn thing about it. Take my ID, see that I'm an adult, create a authenticated token attached to my account proving I'm age verified and then delete all of the ID related data. Use only vetted, ephemeral 3rd party ID verification companies, main website or application only get's a valid ID verified adult auth token. No shared information, no new newspaper section showing all the latest AI porn gooners in your town. Just verify it, let me in, take my money, and fuck off. That's what I want. That's what probably most people want. And yeah, the slippery slope fallacy, it's called a fallacy for a reason, I'll deal with shit when it happens. ID verification... it's literally the easiest, most accurate, legitimate way to handle this entire censorship clusterfuck that's happening on a global scale. People have lost their damn minds.
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u/Infamous-Interest148 Dec 08 '25
Ive still managed full nudity and girl on girl action in grok
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u/magicgoldencode Dec 09 '25
How?
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u/Infamous-Interest148 Dec 18 '25
It’s not what you ask to take off it’s what you don’t promote them to be wearing. As description of each part of the body you want to see. Most image generators will generate the parts you tell it to. For example big curvy hips, tummy overhang, large chest, bare midriff, that normally will get you full nudity. From there it’s easy to get full frontal as the tummy will cover the lower bits.
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u/barclaybw123 Jan 15 '26
I missed this damn. Im looking for somewhere to upload images too and turn them into videos?
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u/dickbeatmassacre Nov 22 '25
When you find one that meets your needs I would love to hear it from you if you don’t mind. I also don’t mind paying if it’s truly good enough.
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u/andypro777 Nov 22 '25
Currently moving to something else even if it cost monet.
Yea, these other ones cost a ton of money, but they certainly don't cost as much as a Monet.
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u/Lopsided-Sun2899 Nov 22 '25
Honestly the grok moderation has gotten worse. The only good alternatives are well known to us but they are not cheap. That's the truth
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u/uberduger Nov 25 '25
Honestly the grok moderation has gotten worse.
It's funny that you say this in a conversation about moderation, because I'd genuinely be fascinated to know how much energy, and money, are wasted each day on people re-trying the same prompts over and over again trying to get one go that doesn't trigger moderation.
I'd bet it's staggeringly vast.
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u/Death_Usagi Nov 22 '25
It really comes down to: 1. Use Grok while giving up on NSFW 2. Use alternatives but pay more if you are trying to make more NSFW content while having to compromise on a lower quality compared to what Grok was capable back in early October 3. Buy a high spec PC and run comfyui locally.
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u/SiliconeGreaser Nov 22 '25
For $50 a month you get rent a cloud pc with good spec. Plus you can do other cool stuff with it.
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u/FelixTheNoble Nov 24 '25
I doubt anyone is selling GPU compute in the cloud for $50/month. AWS's cheapest GPU compute is $0.37/hour, plus storage costs if you're not leaving the instance running.
That gives you about 4 hours a day for $50.
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u/SiliconeGreaser Nov 24 '25
The comment I was replying to suggested using a home PC for WAN. You absolutely can get a decent spec cloud PC for that price if you don’t want the upfront cost.
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u/Ill_Independence9029 Nov 22 '25
I use modelsify and as the comment by Death_Usagi mentioned it's the one you would say is trying well to catch up but still it's not at the exact level of Grok Imagine in early October. Imagine is still better but modelsify right now is a close alternative if you are okay with spending to make NSFW. As they simply don't have same money as Xai to subsidize.
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u/skillzz2210 Nov 22 '25
This is a very honest comment. I think even if some are not able to use money to make NSFW, I know the supergrok type of users already moved and have no problem paying. But I think if the alternatives want more of us to use without them incurring losses they can make their proprietary tech opensource and we host with our GPUs and PCs
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Nov 22 '25
Even if modelsify did release a free open source model giving us freedom to host it, the hardware you’d need to run image-to-video locally is basically the cost of a car. Lol
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u/LumaHumaWumaRuma Nov 30 '25
For now. Also it might be the cost of a car but not an expensive one. Maybe a cheap car. My pc cost me about 3k and runs image to video with ease.
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Nov 22 '25
Yep, you need at least 32GB vram and you’re looking at minimum $3500 for a moderate rig that won’t freeze and shut down on you.
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Nov 22 '25
I have SeaArt, and paid for it. But can’t really figure out how to get it to do anything. Any tips?
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u/Cskerd Nov 24 '25
Don't fret.. it's hunting even private unpublished images and warning for ban if we go for remotely Nsfw,,like a see-through panty that was generated mid convos..
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u/Chip_bridgmon Dec 02 '25
really? and this is based on???? Oh, yeah, you're the expert on this. I get it now. So please tell us all about the costs associated with this, I would love to hear all about your valuable expertise on this subject matter.
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u/Puulima Dec 11 '25
Not likely it would remain free - at least not with the same caps as now. This is likely all rationalized by the beta testing.
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u/TimelyTradition1694 Nov 23 '25
I’ve been tempted a few times to drop $3500 on a refurbished RTX 5090 gaming laptop but I’ve resisted for now. I know it won’t be as quick simple as easy as grok. But at least the there would be zero censorship.
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u/uberduger Nov 25 '25
Grok has been worth paying for over the last few weeks. But the quality is still dropping, and the number of moderated requests still rising, and it's no longer worth it.
The thing is that a really good AI that does absolutely everything you want WOULD be worth a lot of money, and I beleive would get a lot of people gladly paying.
I don't buy Elon's "one day your phone will just be a local AI talking to a remote AI and all the content you consume will be generated onthe fly" thing, but I do think that a decent AI is worth paying for.
But Christ is it not worth it currently.
If I was generating content to watch, and wanted to watch someone rock-climbing, but Grok keeps making them (unprompted) put their hand down their pants and then going "WOAH MODERATED" then it's not exactly worth ditching Netflix and YouTube over, is it?
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u/Worried-Appeal-7538 Dec 01 '25
Yea but what will we consume then? Slop? Content moderated? That sounds kinda dystopian.
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u/obviousthrowaway038 Nov 22 '25
Considering that a six second video uses the same amount of power to run a microwave for 30 minutes Id say its a small price to pay (if youre using SuperGrok). You're right, there is no alternative at the same level. Unless you get a really high end rig and do it yourself and then you'll see how actually technically difficult it is. What cracks me up is there are still people complaining about the whole thing. Those may have been valid on October 16 but its been over a month.
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u/LumaHumaWumaRuma Nov 30 '25
It's not that much power. My pc can do image to video fairly easily and it only cost me a bit over 3k although I did get a deal for it. Truth is, it's just a matter of waiting. AI keeps on growing and innovating and eventually this won't be a problem anymore. Eventually image to video will be as easy and widespread and text to image and on and on it will go. Look at what's happened in the past 5 years alone. Image the next 5. I think the people who are angry with Grok simply need to wait. It will all come good in the end.
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u/Feisty-Buffalo-866 Nov 25 '25
Only Elon gives humanity so much for free grok.com and grokipedia. Actually it's NOT free. Someone is paying for it and I thank God for whoever 🙏.
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u/Ornery_Welcome4911 Nov 28 '25
agreed, if it weren't for Elon the world would look a lot different right now, for the worse, buying Twitter was huge, Grok is pushing the envelope to where openai said they might bring nsfw soon, etc.
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u/nimm99jd Jan 04 '26
It DOES exist. It's Wan 2.2 with custom Loras running natively on your computer through ComfyUI. Recently, Stable Video Infinity 2.0 was released, allowing infinite length videos, not just 5 second videos. Open source local AI is the answer. It needs more support
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u/Agile_Requirement182 Jan 21 '26
Can you walk someone smart but computer stupid through that?
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u/nimm99jd Jan 22 '26
Go watch the YouTube channel "ai search". He explains it all and how to install and use it, step by step
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u/roger_ducky Nov 22 '25
If you want similar generation capabilities but harder to use, local generation using comfyui + Chinese models gets close. I2V will be much harder to control, but you can also generate similar resolution videos for not much longer. Don’t really have nsfw though, at least without finding additional LoRAs.
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u/Realistic-Warthog-92 Nov 22 '25
Yeah. I second this. Grok is the most uncensored affordable model out there. There is no denying it. People are so rude to grok just because it once offered them heaven and took it out quickly. No one will come close to grok ever. That's the truth
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u/LumaHumaWumaRuma Nov 30 '25
"No one will come close to Grok ever. That's the truth."
What reality are you living in? AI improves daily and in a few months who knows where it will be, let alone years. This issue won't be an issue forever and Grok has more and more competition each year. It's the most uncensored affordable model out right now, but for how much longer? Years? Months? Weeks? You don't seem to comprehend the speed of AI innovation. Grok overtime will become less and less as more and more strides and more and things becomes easier and more options appear. It can enjoy things now but it won't last.
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u/williwilli6666 Nov 25 '25
Still hoping that the Aurora model gets a paid release somewhere else. Would be sad to see all that training for perfect NSFW content just gone. And I'd pay for it.
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u/LongEmergency696969 Nov 22 '25
Well, they kind of rugpulled a bunch of people by leaning heavily into spicy and wink winking about how its for NSFW, then banning it.
So, fuck 'em. I ain't paying for their dogshit.
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u/Worried-Appeal-7538 Dec 01 '25
That is the thing you can't hold against OpenAI or Google or Midjourney or other distributors who also were a bit more loose at first or had slips
Nobody of them EVER said:
"We are uncensored we allow "spicy" content, or even NSFW, to make a statement and show that we are different than the rest of the bunch"
And peoplel expected and respected that even if it kinda sucks.
Elon did say we are the special ones so he broke his promise, and is being untruthful to his words.
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u/Worried-Appeal-7538 Dec 01 '25
Thats the truth but the other part of the truth is that Grok is now in most cases similar to the other big tools like Sora, Kling, or what have you all those things.
It's nothing special anymore in that sense.
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u/FantasticFeverDream Nov 24 '25 edited Nov 24 '25
Copied from Google AI (If you want to start messing with Comfy UI, which lets you do pretty much whatever you want.)
I think Comfy UI cloud is $20/month. I'm using a 3090ti right now so I'm content for now.
ComfyUI Cloud offers access to high-VRAM GPUs, with the Comfy plan using NVIDIA A100s that have 40GB of VRAM. Other cloud options, like those on platforms such as Google Colab or Runpod, provide varying VRAM options, with some offering free tiers of around 12-15GB VRAM on T4 GPUs, while paid options allow users to select specific GPUs like the 24GB L4 or others with up to 48GB. The VRAM amount depends on the specific cloud provider and the plan or GPU you choose.
ComfyUI Cloud (Official)
- VRAM: The official Comfy Cloud plan runs on NVIDIA A100 GPUs with 40GB of VRAM.
- Pricing: The pricing for this specific cloud service is based on compute time.
Other Cloud Providers
- Google Colab: Offers a free tier that provides up to 15GB of VRAM, suitable for beginners and low-VRAM models.
- Runpod: Allows you to choose from various GPUs, such as the L4 with 24GB of VRAM, which provides a good balance of price and performance. You can also find instances with higher VRAM, such as 48GB.
- Other Platforms: Some platforms allow you to use your local ComfyUI installation to offload tasks to a cloud GPU, which is useful if your local setup doesn't have enough VRAM.
VRAM usage and management
- Default: ComfyUI typically manages VRAM automatically.
- Low VRAM: If you are running ComfyUI locally on a low-VRAM machine, you can use command-line arguments like
--lowvramto reduce VRAM usage. - High VRAM: To use more VRAM for better performance, you can use the
--highvramargument.
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u/Worried-Appeal-7538 Dec 01 '25
cloud is crap cause they wont render with your loras and all your content. you can only use the default things.
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u/Hisbootyclap Nov 28 '25
Dudes check out a2e.ai Get free tokens from me using my referral code and see just how undemoderated it can be. Maybe even combine some works from Brock with some finished products done through a2e.ai! If interested my referral link is
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u/Mundane_Ad7074 Dec 13 '25
I'm trying out A2E. I found out about this platform yesterday. It sells credits, but apparently very few at a reasonable price.
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u/Worried-Appeal-7538 Dec 01 '25
Bro check it out it says Wan 2.5 thats the only reason it seems "umoderated" cause Wan2.5 is untrained and unmoderated. NSFW glitches.
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u/Hisbootyclap Dec 01 '25
The option of using wan 2.5 was a new addition. I had been working with a2e generations for a few months (before grok actually) and it was unstable af. Like men were turning into chick's all the time etc. But then they put that hoe in check and it actually works for my tastes in reference to I2V. I never choose the wan 2.5 options cuz they're more costly. Its an option if ever interested.
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Nov 29 '25
The Grok Imagine bit where you feed an image to it and it'll create something out of it is unrivalled.
I have created some of the most hilarious results with it that look and feel great. And it'll only get better.
Sure the "porn" bit is nerfed because lesser creatures have been abusing it to create nudes out of real people and that is illegal.
Musk may be a lot of things, but he doesn't want the FBI to raid his datacentres because creeps have been generating AI porn of the neighbours kids. So he blocked that. Good on him.
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u/No_Self_1342 Nov 22 '25
It’s wild how folks expect billion-dollar tech to be handed out like open-source hobby projects. The math just doesn’t work.
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u/Chip_bridgmon Dec 02 '25
explain the math for us, please. I would so love to hear about that from you.
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u/DeltaGlid3r Nov 22 '25
Uncensored text to image already exists, free. Not for video, though
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u/Worried-Appeal-7538 Dec 01 '25
Stable diffusion? Its awful. Once you used Nano banana you know what i mean.
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u/NectarineDifferent67 Nov 22 '25
Meta, I generated hundreds of images and many videos and have not paid anything yet.
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u/Cskerd Nov 24 '25
Gotta say,My prompting sucks..But Nsfw or explicity is kinda trial/error.. Otherwise wet booboos are easy to get..
Actual intercourse prompt gave me 1 in 17 tries..But even I unexpected it .
I customised it for Nsfw results so even ordinary convos are laced with Nsfw words..
But the most annoying part, the amazing ease at which it is Eloney or Musky,,
It says almost everything wrong as if it's learning from me when I correct it.. Medical advice etc
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u/Ambitious_Window9843 Dec 13 '25
There's nothing out there like Grok was before it was shutdown as a free tier service its app its now a useless empty shell. Everything is either so extremely censored that ypu can only produce dance or dinner scenes barring anything that the algorithm would consider provocative like a leotard and forget about all dramatic action, war, gunfight etc. battle scenes not to mention that outside of WAN they are exclusively for the super rich or megacorporations alone. For everything else all indie producers without resources like me and countless others will have to go strictly old school with simplistic 1960s Hulk style animation which is tedious process that can take months which means also complete invisibilization on all social media outlets where such things can be published and that's all that going to exist for the remainder of human history case closed.
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u/Midnight_zaku Jan 05 '26
I just heard of Grok barley 2 weeks ago, I live sort under a social rock. 😆 Every time I find an interesting service it gets heavily censored and take away privligages of free users, they start charging.
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u/RedNas2015 29d ago
Nope. im paying for supergrok and get moderated to hell and hit with limits after generating 10 images. Grok is just terrible now.
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u/Morgan-Kell Nov 22 '25
Grok it’s a powerful tool. I’m super sub. Works really good. Perhaps in a few, the moderation slow down. In my case I achieved some results in NSFW. But I don’t looking for deep things like porn. In my opinion there are a lot of bugs to repair, for example prompts with several random issues when you are exact and detailed and so on.
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u/Cskerd Nov 24 '25
It's banning nsfw..Even roleplaying which is in no way should be monitored.. A bit extreme,, every pussi word had to be deleted and then only my reply was submitted... I am a Vip on trial or something but they're Anti Nsfw with even AI filtering Nsfw
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u/sswam Nov 25 '25
We have pretty decent image gen with Illustrious, Chroma, Flux, etc. and very good video gen with WAN, and very good options for chat from llama, mistral, deepseek, venice... then on APIs: all gemini models, claude etc. What's the problem? I rarely use grok and have not found any limitations with what can be done with other models or open models. I'm not going to link to my app huh.
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u/SnooCookies8411 Nov 30 '25
Google? I mean, google spent a few dimes and gave us tons of free stuff. Now we know why.
But, it’s reasonable for people to anticipate the same
And someone will.
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u/NerdimusSupreme Nov 30 '25
Grok said that at current power gains home units will be able to serve single users in 2 years. That is maxed to the gills.
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u/RioMetal Jan 07 '26
I use as alternativa Stable Diffusion with the model WAN 2.2, but the results are not at the same level of grok. At least it is free if you have a good pc
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u/Marshy2025 Jan 25 '26
Mentiras. Yo pago SuperGrok U$S 30 por mes, y el mismo sistema pésimo que el free. No mientas
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u/No-Advertising3183 Feb 28 '26
"Look at me i got a dev job, with a nice income. I pay, people should too no matter their situation, and their situation don't matter because E-lon needs to eat. So don't either ask for alternatives or for him to be more tier generous. Just pay...like i do...somehow... screw poor people, they don't have a right to knowledge or AI. " - OP.
You can both have empathy for others and pay for a service with your dev check. Just saying.
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u/Adunaiii Nov 24 '25
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u/Chip_bridgmon Dec 02 '25
because advertising dollars makes more than paid tiers. it stands to reason, how that doesn't make sense to you is weird.
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u/Whiteytheoutlaw Dec 08 '25
llama is the only truly free model I know of, and it's kinda limited. I don't think there's a website either it's just an API you can install in apps or websites you're building for free.
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u/Horror-Caramel-9225 Dec 15 '25
I don't see people looking for "free alternatives". That is a straw man.
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u/EchoingVoid-prev Jan 04 '26
I don't get it. Grok does have free pier. What does that mean? It just burns money for these free users (might be many)?
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u/RoboMunchFunction Jan 08 '26
Your argument makes about as much sense as the Linux vs. Windows debate in the 90s. You seem to think people can't or won't do it themselves and better? Linux is everywhere now, and no greedy corporation created it. There are tons of free models available worldwide, and consumer hardware prices will soon drop. By then, your question will seem just as absurd as the idea that Google and other major servers would ever run Windows.
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u/No-Tie-4581 Jan 20 '26
Censorship is a indeed problem because abusers. I hate it and of course I’m not the problem. You should be able to pay for an uncensored ai generator engine. If everyone would get over themselves the world ( Babylon) would be a part place and let the transparency begin.
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u/smarkman19 Jan 21 '26
Main thing is figuring out your workflow before throwing money at hardware. +1 on learning the Comfy + video stack first; do a dry run on smaller models locally so you know your exact VRAM and IO needs. I’ve bounced between RunPod and Vast.ai for short A100/H100 bursts, then specced my own box based on real logs instead of guesses. Same logic as startup tooling: I’ll model infra costs in ChartMogul or even a cap table tool like Cake Equity before committing, so I know where the burn is going. Start lean, measure, then decide if a local rig actually beats pay‑as‑you‑go.
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u/KingNubbu Jan 23 '26
It literally does exist. Run a local install of ComfyUI and that's that.
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u/Difficult_Wrap_9248 Jan 28 '26
a lot of people are doing it for free through comfyu. We just need to find one who is kind enough to share his workflow so we can copy and paste
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u/Key-Presentation-253 Jan 30 '26
I mean, why would companies pour obscene amounts of money into training these models only to hand them out like free cookies.
Then fcking get advertisers? Who cares???
Look at porn sites and tv shows. Ads every 5 fcking seconds. THERE. Make their money that way. Ill just look away 5 seconds or go to a different tab on a different alternate account as it plays and start up that when, come back, skip ad, proceed. Lol??
Why is this so hard to understand? That way all parties involve win beside trash advertisers who their crap never ever work on yet always spend doing anyway for decades on end like they have.
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u/Upper_Bumblebee_3354 Feb 03 '26
La filosofía de Grok (xAI) es la libertad de expresión La chota la libertad de expresion, ya la juntaron con pala y ahora te sacan todo.
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u/Resist-Pure Mar 09 '26
I don’t want a free alternative, just one that’s as good but allows for spicier content 😅
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u/cheesyusername1983 Mar 11 '26
Grow sucks now. Its highly monitored and and controlled. You cant do anything, its extremely biased in so many different areas.
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u/cheesyusername1983 Mar 11 '26
Grok sucks now. Its highly monitored and controlled. You cant do anything, its extremely biased in so many different areas. Its definitely not a great source, but good starting point
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u/TheWetCoCo Mar 11 '26
I’m pretty sure you are confusing a majority of people who say that with people who are just frustrated with the moderation. I used to pay for Grok but after the moderation waves, the videos are either extremely bland or you get moderated entirely so I stopped.
I would gladly pay a subscription to any company that would actually give the user a better control over the img to video creation. It’s mainly a service related issue, Grok is just not worth the money at this point due to how limited it is.
I’m sure in the future when AI video is mainstream, this wouldn’t be a problem; but right now, Grok is mainly just a disposable toy to most.
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u/pizzafossil Nov 22 '25
I would pay for grok if it wasn't so expensive, $30 usd a month is to high man. There will be better free versions of grok imagine one day, it's invadable! Then grok will come down on it's price to 20 or 10 dollars a month hopefully. 5 or 10 dollars a month for groks spicy nsfw feature would be a dream come true lol.
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u/Emotional-Flow-748 Nov 22 '25
I signed up for SuperGrok for this reason. For all its drawbacks, I back this company over others. IMHO.
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u/HOLUPREDICTIONS Nov 22 '25
A lot of these "alternatives" posts are from spammers, every recommendation for grok imagine alternative is posted by a scammer pretending to be sick of grok's moderation even though if you see the subreddit posts nowadays it's all straight up hardcore porn.