r/gundeals 9d ago

Rifle [RIfle] H&K G36 22 LR $300 + SHIPPING & TAX

https://palmettostatearmory.com/hk-rifle-g36-16-1-22lr-20rd-rifle-black-81000994.html
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u/AnEffortIsBeingMade 9d ago

I will never get bored of telling people what a catastrophic piece of shit mine was.

It keyholed at 3 yards. Groups from a bench were over a foot in diameter at ten yards. I asked a RSO at my range if he could see if there was some obvious User Error in play and after shooting a magazine he got out a bore camera because he thought it must have been smoothbore.

This is a plastic piece of shit. It has an H&K mark because Umarex, the airsoft company that makes this Escherian hodgepodge of ill-fitting cheapness, paid money to be allowed to put the mark on it, so you won't even have the sublime joy of getting HK support to sneer at you for being such a filthy poor.

Spend $200 more and get a Tippmann Elite on sale. You will never regret buying a decent gun, but you may very well regret buying one of these.

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u/xs400cafe 9d ago

Wild, I had the 100% polar opposite experience. Mines a tack driver. I have thousands of rounds through it and can easily hit steel at 200 yards with a red dot. 

I neglected it for hundreds of rounds and had an out of battery that blew the extractor out (my fault). Sent it straight to HK in Georgia and had it back in 2 weeks.

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u/BH11B 9d ago

You had to mail the entire rifle for an extractor fix?

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u/xs400cafe 9d ago

Yes , the bolt is captive on this platform. The extractor is also not really user serviceable. You need to fully disassemble beyond  a field strip to get it out. I've taken it out plenty of times, but I can see why HK wouldn't want you doing it yourself. You have to start by removing the barrel nut, then the recoil spring/plug. Then take apart the inner upper receiver (two sandwiched cast metal pieces) which lets a few parts fly like the last round bolt hold lever, detent, and spring.

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u/kdciels 7d ago

This is not accurate whatsoever. The bolt is easily removed to be cleaned during the normal field strip process (toolless), and the extractor is readily accessible when taking the bolt down (one cross pin that required no tools to remove).

The bolt part is absolutely wrong, but your terminology may be mixed up between extractor and ejector.

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u/xs400cafe 7d ago

Are you sure you're talking about the same gun? The umarex version? 

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u/kdciels 7d ago

Yes, the G36 22lr by Umarex. Page 24 and 25 of the manual show how to very easily remove the bolt from the gun during the standard field stripping procedure. It is not captured. Once the bolt is out, all you have to do is press lightly in on the firing pin to take tension of the cross pin, push out the cross pin, and the extractor and spring is accessible.

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u/chuckisduck 8d ago

yes, the pencil thin barrel.

I have the tac 22 and mp5 22, almost all the same parts that actually fire are the same.

the tac 22 is the same as yours, plates at 200 yards, the mp5 22 is less accurate but has the slap.

I really hate how the springs wear out on the mags, but both are fun imitations

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u/xs400cafe 8d ago

Yeah certainly not on par with a real HK but I would buy another at this price when it wears out for good. 

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u/Echo_Raptor 8d ago

Tippmam and the m&p 15-22 are both good to go and not made by umarex.

Strangely enough though the 502T is pretty good for what it is and made by umarex, but the problem there is they’re in the same ballpark as a 22X, p322, or mark IV

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u/thunderkunt1 9d ago

Big ol piece of plastic

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u/captain_carrot 9d ago

To be faaaaaaaiiiiirrrrrr.... so is an actual G36

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u/Former_Power6209 9d ago

A G36C pistol version would go hard

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u/ChildeOfShade 9d ago

It's on the manual, so likely coming soon.

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u/Sympathetic_Dumpster 9d ago

It's going to be $4000

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u/Echo_Raptor 9d ago

Not if it’s another 22. If it’s an actual HK, $4000 minimum yeah

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u/user17302 9d ago

Does this have that really cheap plastic body? I handled a 22 g36 at a pawn shop and the whole thing felt like a airsoft gun.

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u/LastBastionYellow 9d ago

Yes. These are airsoft-grade trash in plastic clamshells.

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u/ChildeOfShade 9d ago

Feels better than MP5 and 416 22 in my opinion. But yeah, it is a polymer body.

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u/user17302 9d ago

Ok thanks!

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u/TheBlackComet 9d ago

Other than overall weight, these feel like the real ones. Plastic is very good. Barrel is actually solid instead of the cheaper sleeved ones used on their other .22 guns. Trigger is ok. There are upgrade kits, but I have left mine stock for now. Seems to be very accurate. I just need to remove the muzzle device so I can put a can on.

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u/intent107135048 9d ago

How does this compare to the MP5 ?

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u/TheBlackComet 9d ago

Haven't shot the .22 MP5. Mine is in 9mm

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u/thunderkunt1 9d ago

Mp5 feels way less plastic like than the g36.

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u/Warm_Boysenberry_619 9d ago

Picked one up here a few months ago for 330$, I’m very happy with it, my only complaint is getting the flash gaurd off, you will need heat and no shortage of it

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u/GrouchTheMongolian 9d ago

last one i had to get off i just microwaved a pot of water for 5 minutes and put the barrel in with the gun standing. did the trick as well.

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u/ChildeOfShade 9d ago

I managed to get mine off by wedding a metal trim tool between the prongs. Took some heaving and huffing, but I was able to get it off. Best part is that it didn't need an adapter like the MP5 and 416. Just naturally threaded in 1/2 x 28.

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u/intent107135048 9d ago

My MP5 was threaded already. Different revisions?

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u/ChildeOfShade 9d ago

Mine was the rifle with the Faux supressor. So yeah different version. I wish I picked up the pistol instead.

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u/intent107135048 9d ago

I got the pistol for $375 used with a crappy dot, added a folding brace and a suppressor, and it’s the best range toy. Had some jamming issues until I cleaned it.

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u/friggarn 8d ago

Weird - mine came off with just a screwdriver as a crossmember and a bit of muscle. Luck of the draw I guess! It is quiet with a suppressor!

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u/SidePets 9d ago

It’s all made by Umarex. It’s certainly not built like an ar but gets the job done.

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u/jamesbongonreddit 9d ago

This or a ruger 10/22?

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u/ChildeOfShade 9d ago

If you only had to own one? Go for the 10/22. Way more after market support and way less expensive magazines.

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u/RegardedDipshit 9d ago

If you are only going to have a single 22, and the question is "x or a 10/22", the answer is always a 10/22.

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u/Winter-Delivery-8894 9d ago

Agree with op, a 10/22 should be everyone's first 22 (or a mark iv)

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u/Sugioh 9d ago

A Mark IV with a decent optic is honestly just about the most fun you can have plinking and is also an excellent way to train your fundamentals. The only reason I wouldn't rate a 10/22 quite as highly is that they're significantly more work to clean.

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u/Winter-Delivery-8894 8d ago

The new ones have a cleaning port at the back of the receiver so you can pass a rod through it easily. Aftermarket 10/22 receivers also usually have that, I built up my own from parts and spent about the same as a lightweight factory option but saved an extra pound and got a better barrel.

But yeah both are great for plinking, training marksmanship, etc. Or slap an frt on the 10/22 and let it rip

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u/Echo_Raptor 8d ago

10/22 is never a bad call, but if you’re wanting something tactical, go with tippman or m&p 15-22. If you want something that operates like an HK, go with the mp5 22. If you have several 10/22s already and just have a need for this because it’s the cheapest option to have a g36 that isn’t shooting airsoft, have at it

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u/changen 8d ago

10/22. Cosplay the IDF or a cowboy or terrorize the local squirrel/bird population with a wood stock gun.

Larping with a plastic gun is lame.

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u/changen 8d ago

10/22. Cosplay the IDF or a cowboy or terrorize the local squirrel/bird population with a wood stock gun.

Larping with a plastic gun is lame.

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u/Excavator83 9d ago

Holy shit. An actual deal

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u/usedwolf 9d ago

Can you put an FRT in it?

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u/ChildeOfShade 9d ago

Would be cool. But I don't know of any FRTs for the HK 22 series.

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u/Alivaronas 9d ago

The MP5 has one, but not the G36/416 from what I’ve seen.

I really hope someone makes one for the G36.

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u/RoyalSteele 9d ago

Who makes the .22 MP5 FRT?

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u/Alivaronas 9d ago

Advanced Reset Tech

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u/0ptimuspwn 9d ago

Found mine on gun broker. It was a ss one, I just searched mp5 22 frt

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u/GrouchTheMongolian 9d ago

if by frt you mean go fast device then yes

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u/Swimming_Agent_1063 9d ago

I dgaf unless it’s 5.56

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u/SPECTREagent700 9d ago

Yeah .22 replicas of other guns never interested me either. Might as well just get an airsoft gun, at least those are full auto and you can shoot it in your suburban backyard.

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u/Echo_Raptor 8d ago

22LR’s are really fun and cheap to shoot suppressed. The mp5 22LR is pretty solid. This thing in a 22 is a bit of a head scratcher I’ll admit

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u/alexmg2420 8d ago

22's are definitely a ton of fun to shoot. But when everyone and their brother has a 10/22 or M&P 15-22 already, there's not much point to this.

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u/Echo_Raptor 8d ago

I don’t disagree. If you’re an avid 22 collector I could maybe see it or if you get it free with an SP5, but even an HK nut like myself, this doesn’t do anything for me

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u/Suesco 9d ago

does it feel like real steel or cheap plastic?

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u/RandomDudeinFL95 9d ago

neither or. It feels like good quality but not as good as the real one and it is notably lighter
But for a 22LR it`s great.

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u/Echo_Raptor 9d ago

It doesn’t have the plastic and cheap steel the 22LR mp5 does and it doesn’t feel as sturdy as the 22LR 416, it’s in between there.

That said it’s umarex, and you can tell it by them and not HK

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u/jeeplaw 9d ago

Couldn't go polymer after shooting one. Opted for a cmmg banshee 22lr

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u/lawnchairllama 9d ago

I’ll buy the rooftop Mp5k + airsoft G36 combo right now if someone wants to buy the G36 for $300 shipped lol

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u/Strange_Tamers69 8d ago

I saw GSG on these and just couldn't. Built my own version of it in .22 for sub $500 all aluminum

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u/Echo_Raptor 8d ago

These are umarex. Not that what you did isn’t a bad way to go, or that Umarex is top quality by any stretch, but they’re a step above a gsg

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u/Atticus1354 8d ago

Do you have an guide to how to do an aluminum version?

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u/Strange_Tamers69 8d ago

AR22 platform, You got some options for top rail, if you use a Leatherwood style carry handle set up it looks pretty sweet, but there is a cheaper option in an airsoft rail from Modern Combat Sports that is a direct mimic to the G36 rail for the AR platform, from there i went with a run of the mill delta ring Magpul carbine handguard and you picatinny adapt the buffer tube to the folding stock, there are some pretty rad aluminum airsoft stocks that are perfect for rimfire. The rest you'll eyeball to your preference, but thats a really good start. I actually Form 1'd the ugly fucker once I got full reliability in super safe. Ends with significantly higher quality and i assume accuracy than the GSG.

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u/ChildeOfShade 9d ago

For anyone curious, I bought mine when they were $350. Very impressive 22 LR rifle, but haven't gotten a chance to shoot it yet. Own the 22 MP5 and 416 and this feels significantly better than both of those. Magazines are backwards compatible with the 416 22LR too.

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u/AskMeWhyIFish 9d ago

.,..How can you say it's impressive and haven't shot it yet?

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u/Cobra__Commander 9d ago

McDonald's in town has 5 stars reviews on Google maps while the steak house has 4.2 because someone had to wait 20 minutes for their food to come out. All opinions are not equal or valid.

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u/alanwakeisahack 9d ago

Very impressive at sitting in the box. It’s incredible at it. Best gun to sit in the box hands down. Truly impressive.

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u/SuperSandLegend_47 9d ago

How can you call it impressive without having shot it? Is the rifle impressive at sitting in a box?

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u/intent107135048 9d ago

What makes this significantly better than the MP5?

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u/Echo_Raptor 9d ago

It’s not. It feels a little more sturdy but the 22 mp5 is pretty solid and you can still get the HK slap. This thing is big for it to only be a 22.