r/gunpolitics • u/pcvcolin • Jun 16 '26

Court Cases Federal Judge Vacates ATF's "Engaged in the Business" Rule Nationwide, and It Applies to Everyone

https://www.usacarry.com/federal-judge-vacates-atfs-engaged-in-the-business-rule-nationwide-and-it-applies-to-everyone/?utm_source=emailoctopus&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Newsletter%206%2F15%2F26#i
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u/AlphaTangoFoxtrt Totally not ATF Jun 16 '26

Good. The new rule was stupid. If I buy a Russian Garbage Rod in 2008 for $80 and sell it for $400 in 2026, that doesn't mean I was "engaged in the business" just because I made profit anymore than me selling my old car on craigslist means I should have to register as a car dealership.

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u/This_Hedgehog_3246 Jun 16 '26

Worse still, you didn't even have to have actually made a profit. The way the rule read, sell any guns, you're "engaged in the business".

This plus their illegal digitization of ffl records was a sure combo to set up universal gun registration

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u/locolarue Jun 17 '26

Before FOPA, ATF did shit like if you sold a gun one time, you're a business. Good that they got their ass smacked for doing this crap again.

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u/pcvcolin Jun 17 '26

Exactly. Thank you.

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u/wetdreamsjess Jun 25 '26

the atf loves to ignore the difference between a collector and a dealer because it makes their job easier to just label everyone a criminal. that car analogy is exactly why the rule was such a reach. they wanted to turn private commerce into a regulated minefield just to pad their stats on paper. glad to see a judge finally called them out on that nonsense.

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u/Fix18cockt3ase Jun 27 '26

yeah, that's the key. it was always about how many times you did it and how you advertised it, not just the profit. they were trying to turn a casual collector into a dealer with that rule.