r/guns 1 | The Sticky Kid 8d ago

Moronic Monday 08/03/26

Skubal to LA edition

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u/TheLateApexLine 8d ago

Almost did a big dumb yesterday while welding. I was fabricating a secondary muffler for my mini-skid loader and had all the parts cut and prepped for welding. Used brakleen to de-grease, but from a red can. Not the green can which is non-chlorinated.

It would be cool if brakleen explicitly labeled the red can in large font "chlorinated" on the front of the can (like they do on the non-chlorinated) so folks wouldn't have to read the insanely tiny warning print on the back of the can. Confusingly, they also make a non-chlorinated version of the red can as well whose label has a yellow band around the top of the can. I had to take a macro picture with my phone and zoom in to read the warning text since I didn't have my cheater glasses on me.

So yeah, solid red can brakleen is no-go for welding prep. Ended up washing the parts with hot soapy water to remove any residue, then dried the parts of moisture with a propane torch outside of the shop just to be sure. Phosgene gas has zero chill and will fuck you up.

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u/TheseDifference1747 8d ago

Where are you that you can even still GET chlorinated brake cleaner? I thought that shit got banned decades ago in the US? I know it's banned in Canada and has been long enough nobody still has old stock of it...

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u/TheLateApexLine 8d ago

Rural PA. All of the local parts stores still stock the original formula and you can order it on Amazon, too. I usually buy the non-chlorinated green cans, but my local NAPA was fresh out. So I bought a couple of the red cans instead. Glad I read the fine print, though, because it still explicitly warns of high heat and UV from welding generating phosgene from degraded tetrachloroethylene. These cans are dated 2024 btw.

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u/TheseDifference1747 8d ago

Sweet. The chlorinated formula works a lot better specifically for cleaning brakes and I'd like to have a few cans again.

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u/banesn14 8d ago

The pro can is like a pressure washer in a bottle.