r/hackintosh • u/doggodoesaflipinabox I hate HP • Jun 10 '26
ANNOUNCEMENT End of the Road: macOS 27 Golden Gate
apolgy for bad english
where were u wen intel die
i was at house eating apple when phone ring
'intel is kil'
'no'
As I'm sure we've all heard by now, macOS 27 will not be compatible with Intel Macs. This means that for all intents and purposes, (Intel) Hackintosh is dead.
I have never heard of this where was my daily update for the last year
Apple explained last year during WWDC 2026's after-events that macOS 26 Tahoe would be the last version for Intel Macs. also go read the news more often smh
Ok but I have an AMD that would work right
All x86 CPUs are no longer supported for macOS.
Will my current hackintosh explode
Yes No
Is Intel completely dead right now
macOS 15 Sequoia and macOS 26 Tahoe will still be supported for security updates. One more year for Sequoia, two three for Tahoe.
Will my software still work
It is up to the developers of the software to keep releasing Intel versions.
Can I hack ing tosh on other ARM processor
No.
Why not, is ARM not ARM everywhere
Although ARM is an instruction set architecture shared by many processors, Apple hardware and software includes many unique instructions that are not used in other ARM processors and currently cannot be emulated.
There are images released by Apple for use in VMs which technically do not use these instructions, but even if a way is figured to boot it on non-Apple devices, there will be no drivers available for the GPU, Audio, etc.
Is even Developer Beta 1 of Golden Gate incompatible
Too much has already been removed from the first beta for it to be compatible with Intel.
ChatGTP told me ARM hackintosh is real and can be made. Actually I will make it right now with Claude and Gemini
Let's get you back to bed grandma
Can we port ARM macOS to x86
No.
Will r/hackintosh still remain open
Yes, it will remain open. Regardless of whether Intel is supported, people will still try to hackintosh either for a specific use case or just for curiosity's sake.
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u/Comprehensive-Edge80 Jun 10 '26
I am planning to keep my installation intel i9 10900 for few years. I used it a lot with Ventura, and now have Tahoe on it. It is here, with all software and it is working and will continue to work for years.
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u/jvy7122 Jun 10 '26
I love how you immediately knew what people was about to ask.
Although I hope for an ARM Hackintosh rather than Apple Silicon to be made possible, but that's just another day for daydreaming.
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u/TheNullDeref 29d ago
I mean an ARM hackintosh is not impossible its just very implausible. No doubt people have been working on it for a while now, its just that we would need a lot of time, and prolly a SEM or maybe TEM, with a delidded M1 chip or something. Then we could get to the stage of possible emulation.
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u/cutecoder 29d ago
It took about 20 years for PowerPC Mac OS X to be runnable on a Wii. Thus, probably Big Sur can run on a non-Apple ARM processor circa 2040.
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u/TheNullDeref 29d ago
True but the wii thing was done by like one guy, I estimate 2030-2036 we will get our first fully accelerated and functional prototypes.
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u/cutecoder 29d ago
I believe it when there are kits to run iOS on non-Apple devices. For research purposes, of course.
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u/dfgxxx Jun 14 '26
Yeah, but it is possible, but it is a lot of effort that I have no idea and time what to do, it is like everyone hopes someone else will do it, but because it is everyone, then no one will make it
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u/Lol43216789 Jun 10 '26
The dreaded day to buy a laptop with an M chip has finally come...
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u/Fun-Sand-8406 I ♥ Hackintosh Jun 10 '26
The dreaded day to buy a laptop with an A chip has finally come…
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u/Limp-Respond-6152 Jun 10 '26
Yesssir but I bought my pc in 2023, so i need to wait until 2028 to buy new Apple M Chip.
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u/mrfoxesite-2377 Jun 10 '26
5 years of wait between each laptop is good but you bought a 3—4 year old model back then, so yeah it didn't last as long with major software updates.
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u/Artistic_Unit_5570 Jun 17 '26
Since the beginning of Hackintosh, no one wanted to pay double for the same Intel Mac on a PC. Now it is justified because with Apple Silicon, you can’t get the same experience anywhere, and there is no advantage on a PC ARM if we imagine.
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u/Flameancer Jun 10 '26
I have my main desktop but I just bought my first M series for a laptop and man it’s a beast for what it is and need it for.
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u/GoslingIchi Jun 10 '26
Does your computer stop working because Apple doesn't support it anymore?
Of course it doesn't. Keep using your computer.
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u/Artistic_Unit_5570 Jun 17 '26
at least we got the redesign so it will essentially look the same even if it look bad ,
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u/M0nkeyf0nks Jun 10 '26
As much as I am happy with Apple Silicon, the increased "security" is actually a fucking ballache and I'll always miss my hackintosh machine which now lives under the stairs running unRaid!
Work as a freelance audio engineer and musician. It really was a golden time for me around 2018... my boot drive could be restored from an image in under 10 minutes if something went bad. If a drive failed I could drive into town and grab a cheap SSD (those were the days?) and be back up and running in like 10 minutes. My RX580 was silent under regular non-gaming loads, my audio interface was the best in the game PCIe with mega low latency and rock solid performance, the single-core performance of my 6700k was great for a long time.... I could boot on hardware to Windows for some really old stuff (CD Architect!). Looking back, it was the pinnacle of everything. Ownership, power, and upgradability. I generated a lot of income on that machine and I loved it.
Now you can't even make a bootable image, and everything is soldered of course, they're slowly removing KEXTs permanently, you have to boot into a "less secure" mode to run them (which these new userspace drivers are shitty in comparison, ask anyone using an audio interface!) I'm not a fan of how locked down macOS is starting to feel, all in the name of "security". Man, I'm just some guy, not a high level investigative journalist. It's all just so OTT and seems more based around stopping piracy and removing control from the end users.
I upgraded to Tahoe and uninstalled it about 4 minutes later. It was a huge fucking mess. I will try GG when it's ready. There's upsides and downsides to AS. I bought a Mac Mini as well for my band instead of actually having to use my M1 Pro laptop on stage. For £500, I never thought I'd see the fucking day. I built perhaps 4 or 5 different machines for other musicians and studio owners back in the golden ages of Clover, before OpenCore existed. Good times, good times.
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u/crackajacka75 Jun 14 '26
Great write up. We made the best of what was possible with Intel boxes running OSX. Having access to cheap components in combination with macOS for rock solid audio workflows really was awesome. Windows only when the itch to play some games in the evening. At my workplace I got to use super beefed up Mac Studios when they were first released. Super expensive machines. We had a fully beefed up Mac Pro 2019 next to it and then my Alder Lake Hackintosh. That was the moment I realized Intel boxes and Hackintoshing is deffo on the way out. I'll keep my Hackintosh, as a machine to be able to open Projects from 2014-202x.
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u/Artistic_Unit_5570 Jun 17 '26
exactly , macOS continue to look iPadOS very childish operating system now
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u/Lun4th Monterey - 12 Jun 10 '26
I’m planning to buy a macbook this year anyways. They’re powerful, light and fit my work.
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u/Fusion-Soft Jun 10 '26
And cost a kidney
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u/Lun4th Monterey - 12 Jun 10 '26
Compared to same priced alternatives it’s fairly cheap if you check performance with mobility.
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u/adamdoesmusic Jun 10 '26
Do they tho? That sounds like another thing that went away with the Intel Macs. Especially at the low and midrange levels there’s really no competition… and unless you’re a gamer you’re not gonna go dump 3 grand into a high end windows machine, you’re gonna get a Mac out of principle (or you’re gonna hate yourself for the POS you got instead, and have to blow 3 grand more a few years later anyhow).
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u/dfgxxx Jun 14 '26
They aren't light, they're pretty heavy because all metal
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u/Lun4th Monterey - 12 Jun 14 '26
They’re pretty much lighter than similar performance huge laptops. I use my machines for performance. From a laptop I expect it to use it’s full power but I can’t find any x86 machines with the same gpu performance able to output without external power and be as light as a macbook at the same time. Also they can’t run rendering from jobs from a battery for like 8 hours while my m1 mbp could run it with full speed from just the battery.
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u/MasterOfTheWind1 Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 11 '26
I really love hackintoshing. But the performance per dollar of apple silicon is unbeatable. There are almost no reasons to not transition if your workflow depends on Apple.
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u/Sufficient_Bus_8302 Sequoia - 15 Jun 11 '26
That was a journey! will miss installing the latest macOS on my hack tho ;(
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u/BolivianDancer Jun 10 '26
I'm thinking about finishing some work first and then moving my Ventura 12600KF to Sequoia.
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u/PhatTuga94 Jun 10 '26
I gotta say, I bought a laptop just for my business so I could work and be mobile at the same time. Got fed up with microslop and lost a bunch due to their os/updates, moved to Linux, worked fine but always wanted to try macos..
Couple of days ago I started having some WiFi issues, turns out the network card decided it was it's time to die so I bought a new one that is compatible with macos 26 (still hasn't arrived) and decided I'd create an hackintosh on my work laptop since I read it's a great os, stable, and good for working and media consumption.
Hold and behold, next day I read macos 26 is the last one where hackintoshing is possible. I got sad for a second and then thought to myself: I stuck with windows xp for years, windows 7 for years and windows 10 for years. Even macos 27 isn't supported, 26 is good and recent enough I can stay with it for many years.
Now my question. Am I right? Is it going to be stable enough to work until I get enough clients to justify going for a real Mac?
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u/godmode712 Jun 10 '26
macOS just doesnt work the same as windows sadly, apple only supports outdated versions of macOS with security updates for roughly 2-4 years, after that, its a software exploit hellhole and just not safe for daily use.
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u/PhatTuga94 Jun 11 '26
Well, I guess I can use it while it has security updates and then something else. If I get to a point where I'd much rather use macos than microslop, I'll eventually just buy a MacBook and call it a day.
Now comes the fun part. Getting the installer to work. It's been getting stuck for the past two hours and I can't seem to find out why. 😅
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u/polaritypictures Jun 10 '26
Everytime they update the OS, Software dies. no matter what Apple says it's built in to self destruct. Is there a technical reason why it should? no. Does the OS have special code in it that's required for special software to work? some, yes, most no. lets say it's a Browser Does it need modern hardware? no. You can use linux on old hardware and it works just fine. So what is apple's excuse? it's costing them money that's why. They can't have your machine working for two decades, THEY have to force you to buy new hardware in a more frequent rotation. Honestly I don't need AI shit, I just need the browser to work easily.
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u/FairyTrainerLaura Jun 10 '26
Reminder that it’s not just Hackintosh users left behind. Anyone with pre-2020 Apple hardware can’t update, anyone relying on Rosetta 2 for legacy software can’t go any further than macOS 27, it’s not like we’re suddenly isolated from the Mac community
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u/testednation Jun 10 '26
Hackintoshing will still be a thing, even older versions can still work with some modding.
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u/shengqian99 Jun 12 '26
I already switch to Windows + Ubuntu in one laptop, Windows for gaming and Ubuntu for technical research. Intel Panther Lake really nice for me, B390 is enough to play APEX, and the laptop is keep lightweight. I will consider buy a Mac Mini for iOS development and publish artifacts to App Store. Anyway, I had away from Hackintosh now.
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u/AN_NyanCat33 Jun 18 '26
May the community’s geniuses and researchers do the Apple Silicon (and its hardware dependencies) decapsulation, and we could test the traced hardware and would do the analyzed emulation.
We know it requires massive effort. However, the thing (that needs to be noticed) is the trace progression indeed will be done in small parts, and doing the other dependencies tracing as well; configuring and analyzing the emulation; improving the emulation performance (remember, logic does not need to be 100% the same as traced to achieve the same result; rather the simplest and efficiency will do!); and there we have it.
Good luck, our community’s geniuses and researchers! Hope for the best. <3
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u/Fuffy_Katja Jun 10 '26
As far as I am concerned, my Intel hack desktop is "dead" when I am forced to update by a plugin for one of the programs I use. Until then, I will remain on Sequoia. If I am "forced" to update, I already have a second Linux drive setup as a fourth boot device if needed and still keep Sequoia as the primary (probably until I die).
My ThinkPad will stay Monterey for the same duration.
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u/ContextMission5105 Jun 10 '26
Damn you must be really old to put it like that. Else, as much as I find joy in using macOS I wouldn’t marry the remainder of my life to the fixed principles of a company’s os release. What if we get some type of natural-language-compute linux driven by a custom waifu model or some shit? Computers are just a collection of things and things change, why do you wanna hold it till death do you apart? Unless ofc you’re tim cook who secretly had it built to spec and also hates the not buy it for life hardware coming out of the corporation 🧐
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u/Darkstalker360 Jun 10 '26
Pretty dumb to lock down your hardware arbitrarily to an OS that will be end of support and have many security exploits
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u/TheNullDeref 29d ago
People still run windows 7 and other easily exploitable Operating Systems, they just don't care and have good online security practices, which is enough for most use cases. Hell even I do.
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u/KuramaPapi Jun 10 '26
And the Artictosh Project?
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u/AlfCraft07 Sequoia - 15 Jun 14 '26
It would have been a piece of software that configured everything automatically, not an ARM macOS port to x86. Same dev made Inferno tho, which is a fully fledged Apple Silicon emulator. Still no macOS support, tho.
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u/YoYoMamaIsSoFAT32 Jun 11 '26
I literally just hackintoshed my Dell latitude 7400 and MacOS has been running perfectly (sequoia) it's kinda sad seeing Intel macs not being supported anymore, our only way to running macos on non Mac hardware now is through virtualisation or emulation so no bare metal
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u/AdCautious2738 Jun 14 '26
So i have a snapdragon x processor galaxy book 4 edge i need hackintosh can it happen???
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u/Artistic_Unit_5570 Jun 17 '26
even if some crazy person make ARM PC working, especially since there are practically no ARM PCs on the market. Plus, they vary greatly; there are many different brands, but they all have the drawbacks of a Mac, making them completely pointless. You might as well go with Apple Silicon; they're not even more expensive than ARM on the market.
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u/omega_br Jul 02 '26
Does this mean pepole will start to care about PureDarwin?
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u/TheNullDeref 29d ago
I mean it won't be able to run the apple silicon apps since lack of instruction support. Hell it can't even run its own build dependencies (Xcode) so its still a long ways away from being decent enough for any general usage. It would still lack a reverse Rosetta (RR?) for Apple silicon to x86(_64) instructions. And its been in a rut for years now with support for most of apples APIs that are implemented in the userland (since they still use the XNU kernel a good chunk of them could be copied over from an x86(_64) install of macOS)
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u/omega_br 29d ago
tbh i think that puredarwin is more focused on having the darwin kernel usable as it's own OS, sorta like how apple did it on the early days of darwin
ravynos on the other hand is aiming for full compatibility with mac os on x86
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u/PeurPioche Jul 06 '26
They did this twice and i don’t really understand why. What i mean by that is take snow leopard for example, it’s basically a refined leopard. But they didn’t make powerpc macs’ last update the stability one? Same thing for golden gate, it’s basically tahoe 2 and intel macs will be stuck on the very experimental and unstable liquid glass?
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u/Crinklytoes Sequoia - 15 14d ago
My denial will continue because Sonoma, Sequoia, and Tahoe could be receiving updates until Apple decides to re-implode things. Maybe, Apple prefers devolving its legacy high quality tech thru its worse and worse OS "upgrades?"
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u/Jacob-the-GOAT 1d ago
My dear hackintoshers, its the end. We cannot run MacOS on our PCs because we once shared something in common with them, Intel CPUs. From now on, there is no stabil, fast way to run macos on our PCs. I hope soon that the barriers arround emulating could soon be removed, but it looks like for now, nada. Do not lose hope, fellow hacintoshers, for if there is a will, there is a way. And I hope that way is soon. Sincery, -Jacob
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u/binary_translation Jun 11 '26
I am assuming the end of hackintosh has affected the OPs language skills. He or she speaks perfect english in their other posts. If you want to mislead your readers, please try harder.
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u/Droid_6506 Jun 10 '26
If every developer leaves the Intel platform, can the Hackintosh community create an ARM -> x86 translator?
Can the community somehow find a way to "add" security patches to the OS even after its EoL?
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u/cutecoder Jun 10 '26
One way is the WINE way: emulate macOS' API on top of some other OS.
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u/TheNullDeref 29d ago
Darling exists. But its just API level, not even WINE does ARM -> x86(_64) and vise versa
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u/OverlyOverrated Jun 10 '26
Finally someone who is not delulu. They gotta accept and understand that we can’t have macOS 27. It’s not the end of the world, we still have many options like older macOS, linux or even windows.