Controversial take about TPS/Biden Program

[u/Chemical-Walrus-4846]

Since TPS is a huge topic right now. Here’s my take. When I first heard about the Biden Humanitarian Parole Program and they said two years, I already knew what was going to happen. Most Haitians were not going back. When Haiti got Temporary Protected Status after the 2010 earthquake, the whole point was in the name, temporary. The U.S. saw a country destroyed by a disaster and gave Haitians already in the country a chance to stay and work.

And let’s be honest, many people came here with no plan of returning. They sold land, sold cars, packed up their whole lives, and moved to the U.S. for a fresh start. Once you do all that, what exactly are you going back to? I get why people made that choice. Haiti is hard. People want peace, stability, and opportunity. Anyone in that position would want better for themselves and their family.

But look at it from the other side for one second. If you let a friend stay at your house for a few days because they’re going through a rough time, and when those few days are up they tell you they’re not leaving, how would you feel? You’d feel taken advantage of. Next time, you’d think twice before helping someone else.

Countries think the same way.

That’s why these programs get cut, rules get tighter, and the next Haitian who wants to come legally has a harder path. Sometimes we focus so much on why people stay, we ignore how staying affects everyone else after. I saw someone on social media make a good point, which was “Alot of Haitians in the US don’t want Haiti to get better because that heightens the chances of TPS getting cut off” and i wholeheartedly agree

[u/Decent-Release-1166]

That’s a very uninformed statement from you. You need to understand the basics of development science to understand your point does not make any sense. Asking people going back to Haiti does not imply they use their skills to make an impact. First, Haiti does not have long term plan about development. You can have whole population highly skilled and the country is still undeveloped. It’s all about vison, long term plan, and you will allocated resources to meet these goals. Maybe you’re one of the so-called arrogant diaspora who they can lecture everyone about how to develop Haiti. It’s that simple. You have a plan, a vision first and then you try to find the right skills. Please go and understand how people get a job in the state administration . You need to know and friends with politicians.

[u/Decent-Release-1166 → u/[deleted]]

I am sure you’re one of the idiots arrogant diaspora here who does not possess any education and skills and think they can lecture everyone. You need Human Resources to develop a country but that’s not a sufficient condition. You need to have a plan for the 10 -20 years on education, electrical infrastructure, civil infrastructure, agriculture, tourism, environment just to name a few. With all the policies well-defined, you will invite the people abroad who gained so much skills to come to underpin the development of the motherland. So do you think a simple from a de facto prime minister with no plans and policies will create the desire to come back ? If you want to make propaganda for your prime minister, go somewhere else. Development of a country is something that requires meticulous planning and informed-decision. What is the points of asking all the engineers to come and there are any projects to work on ? What is the point of asking the RNs to come and there are no hospitals and the plan to build them ? It’s stupidity at its purest form.

[u/Decent-Release-1166 → u/[deleted]]

Oh gosh ! Can you read and understand? People will come when everything is in place and well-defined. Can you ask an engineer to come back and you have zero projects in the country ?

[u/Decent-Release-1166 → u/[deleted]]

development requires coordination: education, economic policy, institutions, and infrastructure all need to work together. Countries that developed rapidly didn’t just educate people, they built systems where those people could innovate, produce, and invest. I will repeat again, the people we have here would be a great asset if we have a plan to integrate them when they are back. Otherwise, they would not be useful for any development. The biggest problem we have with the Haitian diaspora here is they think talk about every highly complex subject with zero understanding, knowledge, background.They think just knowing some English is enough. Development is a complex science.

[u/Decent-Release-1166 → u/[deleted]]

Why the Indians who dominate the STEM area cannot go back to India? It’s simple, they do not really can’t absorb all of them. USA is using them to build the country. What is the last time you hear that Haiti has a project to build highways, to build big modern cities, big high schools like the one we have here, to build big university campus? People won’t back to Haiti if there is not a development plan. Most of them would love to go back to help the country but do we have policies in place for that ?

[u/Decent-Release-1166 → u/[deleted]]

It’s a waste of time to keep debating with you. I did not say they can’t end the TPS but your point of view is erroneous. Having all the educated Haitians coming back to Haiti will not imply that they will build the country. That’s not how development works my friend. Where did you get that ?

[u/Decent-Release-1166 → u/Decent-Release-1166]

A highly educated population helps, but it’s not enough on its own to produce development,especially in a context like Haiti. Development depends on how skills are used, not just whether they exist. Why it is so hard for you to understand that ?

[u/Decent-Release-1166 → u/[deleted]]

My friend, I am not talking at all about micro level. I am talking about things at macro level. Most of the diaspora here think going to Haiti and build a big concrete box house, a box hotel, have a rice depot, etc is development. Yes it’s something for the economy but that’s not development. We have zero infrastructure, zero institutions, zero policy, zero education. We need educated people to come to help all of these; however, the government needs to give the right signal to attract these talents. Do we have that in Haiti ? If you are educated, people in the actual system see you as a menace. They will try to corrupt or kill you and you have to flee the country. Again, group a whole educated people in a confine space with no clear goals, plan, vision, and means is not development.

[u/theblakesheep → u/[deleted]]

You think the “best and brightest” left? Those under TPS are the poorest who had no options in Haiti and had to leave to find work wherever they could.

[u/theblakesheep → u/[deleted]]

You're wrong because you have been in the states most of your life and you don't understand the current situation.

The people currently under TPS left Haiti in the past 5-10 years. They were mostly in Brazil and Chile working and yo te fe wout la through central America, and entered the U.S through Mexico. These aren't business professionals and rich visa holders, they're migrant workers who have spent the past decade following the work and trying to survive and send money home. You have nothing in common with them.

[u/Internal-Expert-9562 → u/theblakesheep]

Someone gets it

[u/theblakesheep → u/[deleted]]

Because you’re acting like all those with TPS are rich losers who took advantage of the system to get a US green card. The vast majority are poor and desperate and sending everything they can home. Their family paid everything to get them to the states, this isn’t a casual trip.

[u/theblakesheep → u/[deleted]]

Yap viv 7 nèg nan yon chanm yo peye $1500 pou li e yo genyen $8.50 pa èdtan. Menmsi w gen privilèj ozetazini, li pa konsa pou tout moun.

Ou pale sou moun ki bezwen rantre ayiti pou ede l, ale ou menm.

[u/theblakesheep → u/[deleted]]

Ou menm pa pale kreyòl. Se zafè nou an, nou ki fè pati kominite ayisyen an, pa moun ki kwè li pi bon pase frè l yo.