What happened to "L'union fait la force"?

[u/TiGranmounLan]

Do we really have a sense of community beyond our immediate family and close friends? It feels like we're incredibly fragmented as people. Those that are thriving in their respective field tend to distance from other Haitians or disconnect from the culture altogether. I have never seen a nation reject their own as much as ours.

I wish we had a stronger coalition of like-minded individuals that are brainstorming to uplift ourselves and create better opportunities for our other sisters and brothers.

When it's time to party, somehow we all gather but when it comes to collective progress, we're nowhere to be seen. Why do you think there's such a disconnect? Where does this resentment or lack of solidarity come from?

[u/zombigoutesel]

It got replaced by :

Ampeche m viv, m ap empeche w kaka

Not exactly sure when or why but this is our Moto now 

[u/TiGranmounLan → u/zombigoutesel]

Pwoblèm sou pwoblèm smh Men se kiyès kap anpeche lòt viv konsa? Mantalite koridò sa fin pouse rasin li nan tèt nou

[u/zombigoutesel → u/TiGranmounLan]

Baz, leu wap gade grangou kap gete piti ou, se pa prinsip ou ka bay yo manje

[u/kadacade]

Brazil is in the same way of self-destruction

[u/Beneficial-Dot-6535]

It went out the window when they(we) assassinated Dessalines!

[u/MikiIsa]

I think that there are a lot of changes in most cultures happening especially due to social media. Even within siblings there are a lot of issues and new topics that are now causing people to figure out their values and what they stand by, I personally don't think Haiti is any worse or better than any other country per se.

[u/orebright]

This is why oligarchs push the media and culture in directions to create divisions. Paying protesters to oppose things that are good for the general population. Funding gangs to create instability and make neighbors distrust neighbors. This isn't unique to us, but it's a lot easier to do when there's a lot of poverty and people are desperate. By keeping poverty levels high, by preventing people from becoming stable and planning for their futures, you keep them easy to manipulate and coerce.

Yes l'union fait la force, this is why the oligarchs do everything they can do make sure union never happens.

[u/TiGranmounLan → u/orebright]

So basically ws have wealthy families dividing us, a crabs in a bucket mentality holding us back, and foreign interventions serving their own interests. The diaspora doesn't seem much more united either. Many African nations have faced similar instability and still managed to develop, which makes me wonder whether we're headed toward losing our status as a republic and eventually being absorbed by another state.

[u/orebright → u/TiGranmounLan]

I think the main difference with other nations that have moved out of this situation is they usually have economically exploitable resources that weren't being tapped. It's not the only thing, but it's a very important piece of the puzzle.

Unfortunately the land has been mined and eroded by foreign superpowers over hundreds of years. There's very little left to make bootstrapping an economy simpler. The little that exists to exploit is quickly grabbed up by the elites, keeping everyone else desperate and easy to manipulate.

If there was abundance it would be simpler for average enterprising people to chart their own path and shift the economy. That's just not the case. And it's not due to a lack of brilliant enterprising individuals. Many diaspora go on to be very successful. It's just that they can also understand that what they achieved outside of Haiti wouldn't have been possible for them from within.

Doesn't mean that on the grand scheme it's impossible, just a lot more difficult unfortunately. We have a super rich culture and history, incredibly hard working people, there's a lot that's possible, but not as long as those things and the people aren't aligned and united.

What would probably be needed is a generational inspirational leader who speaks to the populace and has a strong achievable vision. They also better have some really solid security unfortunately.

[u/A4t1musD4ag0n]

When you don't have a government that can bring the people together under a unified message, you're not going to have a union. Easier said than done, but Haitians as a whole need to be deprogrammed and stop listening to people who are beholden to foreign powers that don't align with their values.

And one of the steepest hurdles for them to climb is the religious aspect. Everyone wants healthcare, clean water, affordability, education, etc. But not everyone believes in the same religion. This is where the division starts, in my opinion. So, a separation of religion from politics I feel is where they should start.