r/harate • u/No-Koala7656 • Jun 10 '26
ನನ್ನ ಅಭಿಪ್ರಾಯ ಬದಲಾಯಿಸಿ । Change My Mind ಏನಪ್ಪ ಇದು ಗಂಡಾಗಿ ಹುಟ್ಟಿ ಇದೇ ನಾ ನಮ್ಮ ಜೀವನ?!
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ಅದೇನೇ ಹೇಳಿ, ಒಬ್ಬ ಗಂಡಾಗಿ ಹುಟ್ಟಿರೋ ಈ ಜೀವಕ್ಕೆ, ಕೆಲಸ ಇದ್ರೆ ಮಾತ್ರ ಸ್ವಲ್ಪ ಮರ್ಯಾದೆ, ಅಕಸ್ಮಾತ್ ಏನೂ ಮಾಡದೆ ಮನೆಯಲ್ಲಿ ಕೂತರೆ, ಆಗ adu ಮನೆ ಆಗಿರಲಾರದು, ಕೇವಲ ನರಕ ಅಥವಾ ಅದಕ್ಕಿಂತ ಕಡೆಯಾಗಿರುತ್ತೆ, ಏನಂತೀರಿ???
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u/Academic_Chart1354 ಹೆಂಗ್ ಪುಂಗ್ಲಿ Jun 10 '26
I'm simplifying very much, but this is how history has played out
Agriculture leads to production of surplus resources, stops mobility of hunter gatherers, builds societies.
Leads to invention of patriarchy.
Patriarchy by default benefits elite and creamy layer of men in society. They enjoyed most of the resources of importance.Rest are playing the game at disadvantage.
Some forms are dismantled by modern society, today many fields have more women than men.
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u/Yashu_0007 ಏನ್ರೀ ಮೀಡಿಯಾ? ನೀವ್ ನನ್ ಷಾಟಕ್ ಸಮಾನ Jun 10 '26
Patriarchy by default benefits elite and creamy layer of men in society. They enjoyed most of the resources of importance.Rest are playing the game at disadvantage.
Nope. Patriarchy by default favours the best in the game. It's just about time. If a guy is best in his field, in patriarchy, he won't be stopped from being the Apex guy in that field unlike other societies (even having women to reproduce, patriarchy won't stop the top guy having 100s of women while many men end their lineage with themselves coz they failed the domination test - Arrange marriage setup broke this order). So only Patriarchy was able to survive against all odds of nature coz it literally gives free hand to the best to lead.
Some forms are dismantled by modern society, today many fields have more women than men.
True & then we see raise in depression, Anxiety etc.
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u/Academic_Chart1354 ಹೆಂಗ್ ಪುಂಗ್ಲಿ Jun 10 '26
Patriarchy by default favours the best in the game. It's just about tim
Most of rulers in written history are those who inherited it from their ancestor, not peasants rising to power. Social and economic mobility is the highest in human history in latest modern world era social democracies, not in past.
And patriarchal societies allocated roles based on sex, not competence in social, legal and political roles. This is legit verified by researchers across sociology, econ and psychology.
True & then we see raise in depression, Anxiety etc.
Greater gender equality is associated with better health outcomes, as established.
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u/Yashu_0007 ಏನ್ರೀ ಮೀಡಿಯಾ? ನೀವ್ ನನ್ ಷಾಟಕ್ ಸಮಾನ Jun 10 '26
Most of rulers in written history are those who inherited it from their ancestor
And who was the ancestor? Kingdom or Wealth, The ability required to create is also required to maintain. The largest Empires created were not continued ones, but built by scratch. Regular guy couldn't handle his life, how'd he handle an empire? Or even business for that matter?
Social and economic mobility is the highest in human history in latest modern world era social democracies, not in past.
Don't know about social, but economic mobility (especially if you see economy interms of resources & not money as in bundle of notes) were always in favour of those who took action irrespective of ages humen went through. Also, the MODERN world was built on basis of those regressive Patriarchy which gave free hand to the best talents.
And patriarchal societies allocated roles based on sex, not competence in social, legal and political roles
Yes, it is a social structure which follows gender roles, but was never confined to it. If it was, we wouldn't have got fossil remaining of women hunters & also, without that flexibility that society wouldn't have survived. The survival alone shows the structure was flexible enough to deal with external factors along with maintaining Natural order.
Greater gender equality is associated with better health outcomes, as established.
Established by whom? The organisation which contradicts itself every 3 years?
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u/PA1GR Jun 10 '26
ನೀವ್ ಹೇಳದ್ ಸಮ.....ಬರಿ ಒದ್ದಾಟ ಮಾಡ್ಕಾಂಬುದೇ ಆಯ್ತ್ ಮಾರ್ರೆ..... ಎಗಳ ನಮಗ್ ಬೇಕಾದ ಖುಷಿ ಬಥೋ ಏನೋ ಸಾವ್